To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

[Calmorchaos]

I’m after some advice really on how to approach this.

I have always been the type of person to support anyone to be who they are. I’ve never shied away or shielded my children from the world - very much a ‘love is love’ person and always encouraged my children to support those who need it and be inclusive ( in terms of people being bullied , disabilities etc too ) .

My youngest is going into high school ( 11 ) . Over the past few months I’ve noticed a few comments such as “ there are 2 genders “ , “ I don’t support LGBTQ “ . I’ve addressed this in the moment . But recently he found out his new school has an LGBTQ assembly on a monthly basis and he has started saying he doesn’t want to go because “ he doesn’t support it” . I sat down and had a chat with him , I explained to him that it isn’t really his place to choose to not agree with it - it’s not a choice , i explained it as he could say he doesn’t agree with people eating meat as that is a choice he would be making , but someone’s sexuality is their feelings and not a choice.

I am sure comments will allow me to explain more how the conversation went from my side so I won’t drag this post on with that but his comments were unnerving :

• he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
• we can choose who we fall in love with
• if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

I know he is very young and he doesn’t understand and has things to learn. He is the sweetest boy and the way he said these things sounded scripted as though he has heard others say this . I know he is a child and it’s my job that guide him and that’s the advice I’m asking for , how do I address this? I’m not saying I need him to go around advocating I just don’t want these views becoming ingrained and he becomes the reason another student who is struggling, struggles more. I know I may be overreacting but this age and as the years go on is a time that he can be heavily influenced . He’s a quiet, sweet boy and I do believe he could be heavily influenced.

Another concerning thing is that when I asked him where he had heard all this and where it comes from he said his Dad .

And yet you posted (now deleted) paragraphs that were just having a go at another poster - is that what the thread is about?

This thread is about a parent quite rightly worrying about her son’s homophobic views not anti trans ideology.

You seem to have missed my ooh t. He needed an LGB club, he got an LGBT club which id based on an ideology directly in conflict with his needs.

I suggest you listen to the Inciteful Sisters podcast episode 17 on Protect and Teach. If you don’t believe me about how these lunchtime clubs operate, sometimes in secrecy from parents (totally against safeguarding rules), listen to the women on the frontline.

Also Episode 7 - young lesbians with Alison Ellis on how she has found it almost impossible to find lesbian groups now. They are all infiltrated by men who identify as lesbians.

No thankyou

You're missing my point. I have no problem with LGB assemblies as long as they are age-appropriate.

What I do have a problem with is this being a named regular 'theme' for an assembly. You don't need to announce 'themed' assemblies.

Yes, HT's do plan a sequence of assemblies for each term - of course that's fine and it's sensible to have a nice variety of topics for all of the children.

But if you do have a planned sequence of assemblies covering a range of topics then there is no need to tell the children of your plan and give it a silly name.

That smacks of shallow virtue-signalling and it deliberately goads parents (or children) who might not agree. That's my point.

It beggars belief how some teachers/HTs seem to have forgotten that schooling/education is for children and not to meet their own needs.

If there is an issue with homophobia within the school( which it certainly sounds as if it is) or otherwise once a month is absolutely fine.Schools
are supposed to have regular inclusive activities .

Nobody is trying to shut that down.

From what OP has said about the LGBTQ assemblies and the gender ideology taught in them, they will be the main source of his ‘homophobia’ so it’s entirely relevant. As I explained in more depth just now.

What a ridiculous statement to make. How dare you shut down the homophobia gay kids have to tolerate by trumping up bonkers trans ideology as the cause. Own goal for you, the gay kids keep on being subjected to homophobia and the trans kids get targeted even more.

This thread is about a parent worrying about her son’s homophobic views NOT how often his school
has lgbt assemblies.

Love this, well said

Yes. This thread is about tackling homophobia. Thanks @Fk48fj!

So you can’t refute one thing in my fairly lengthy thread.

Thanks. I’ll take that as a win.

I didn't read past the first sentence.

I've reported that, to save anyone else the bother.

Exactly. No one is interested. We just scroll past. But they make the thread impossible to participate in.

Poor mum who came here looking for someone to talk to. I'm sorry @Calmorchaos. Hope you're OK.

Of course they aren't. It's the current right-wing leaning which is being exhibited here and by the Andrew Tate dude-bro 'You're gay if you enjoy sex with women' idiots causing it.

No one does.

Agree, but you don't need to tell the children or parents that there is going to be a regular LGBT theme. It's not necessary and will just wind people up, rightly or wrongly. Do the assembly, just drop the virtuous 'theme' title.

60+ posts (2+ pages, more than 10% of the thread) all from the same poster, and barely a word of it anything to do with OP's question. It has felt oppressive on here recently.

I don’t know what kind of bad guy you have set me up as in your head, with your talk of ‘own goals’ and how my views are ‘disgusting’

How am I shutting down discussion of homophobia by explaining what a major contribution to the cause is?

I am just a mum who is horrified at the harm that is being to children in schools by trans ideology. It is especially harmful to children who may turn out to be gay as well as all the others. IRL I have seen a girl deny that she is a lesbian because she is a guy and is on testosterone.

I thought you wanted to protect your vulnerable (from your descriptions of him) gay son from homophobia? How can you do that if you are not fully aware of the issues and risks?

@BundleBoogie
You are doing a sterling job. But I have to ask why.

Fk48fj is not listening to a word anybody says. She doesn't engage at all, isn't interested in debate, hasn't thought (and refuses to think) about wider consequences. She just shouts into the void and thinks that anything less than complete capitulation to her view is homophobia

I can't be doing with her any more.

No it isn’t.

Another example of fine debating skills.

No I’m not listening because this thread isn’t about trans debate. I will not be bullied into it.