To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

[Calmorchaos]

I’m after some advice really on how to approach this.

I have always been the type of person to support anyone to be who they are. I’ve never shied away or shielded my children from the world - very much a ‘love is love’ person and always encouraged my children to support those who need it and be inclusive ( in terms of people being bullied , disabilities etc too ) .

My youngest is going into high school ( 11 ) . Over the past few months I’ve noticed a few comments such as “ there are 2 genders “ , “ I don’t support LGBTQ “ . I’ve addressed this in the moment . But recently he found out his new school has an LGBTQ assembly on a monthly basis and he has started saying he doesn’t want to go because “ he doesn’t support it” . I sat down and had a chat with him , I explained to him that it isn’t really his place to choose to not agree with it - it’s not a choice , i explained it as he could say he doesn’t agree with people eating meat as that is a choice he would be making , but someone’s sexuality is their feelings and not a choice.

I am sure comments will allow me to explain more how the conversation went from my side so I won’t drag this post on with that but his comments were unnerving :

• he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
• we can choose who we fall in love with
• if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

I know he is very young and he doesn’t understand and has things to learn. He is the sweetest boy and the way he said these things sounded scripted as though he has heard others say this . I know he is a child and it’s my job that guide him and that’s the advice I’m asking for , how do I address this? I’m not saying I need him to go around advocating I just don’t want these views becoming ingrained and he becomes the reason another student who is struggling, struggles more. I know I may be overreacting but this age and as the years go on is a time that he can be heavily influenced . He’s a quiet, sweet boy and I do believe he could be heavily influenced.

Another concerning thing is that when I asked him where he had heard all this and where it comes from he said his Dad .

Your child needed an LGB club though.

Why would you want your child to join a club where he might be told by activist that the reason he’s unhappy is because he was born in the wrong body and is really a girl ‘inside’?

I suggest you look at what happened to Ritchie Herron and reflect on what you are being told.

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Ritchie Herron interview. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7NX7iPr9k&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

The OP is about homophobia. Trans ideology IS homophobia.

I missed that, thought he was a teenager.

Jesus Christ

It isn’t always though is it. There are GREY AREAS!!!

I'd say the parents of that child were doing a pretty poor job if school assemblies were the most significant and influential factor in the child's life, leading to transitioning.

Any assembly I've ever witnessed has been mind numbingly boring.

We all are. It's everywhere. I mean, I'm not offended by it. But it's forced down our throats. Fair enough, as long as other alternatives are also addressed.

My post was mainly addressed to those wingeing about the occasional LGBTQ assembly at school, implying it would warp childrens socialisation.

Again, this is just deeply offensive.

Jesus Christ wtf is wrong with people? You have no clue at all what this family went through and continue to. How nice for you to just be able to sit back and judge. They are living it.

My cousin's child was heavily influenced by a teacher, who gave her the 'born in the wrong body' narrative, which my cousin's child, very confused about the changes in her body due to puberty, bought into.

The child wanted to go down a medical pathway, which my cousin was deeply reluctant about, but there were threats of going no contact, so she was supportive.

My cousin was then told by medical professionals, 'better a live son than a dead daughter' and that scared my cousin enough to support the decision to take the hormones.

Now that she's detransitioned, there is lots of regret and very complicated emotions from both my cousin and her child. I don't blame my cousin, she was totally let down by professionals who should have known better. It's a genuine tragedy for them all.

And judgement from people like you, who haven't the faintest clue what they've gone through is just the icing on the cake.

Yes - she said that some people feel as though they are born in the wrong body, and that some people disagree with that, and he can make his own mind up.

I imagine that most (all?) people acknowledge that some people feel as though they were born in the wrong body so, again, there is no reason to make this thread about transgender people.

I understand this is personal to you, and I'm sorry about what happened to your neice, but it is still not what the thread is about.

LOL

There really aren't grey areas.

The kids who got liberty blockers, went first started with this 'treatment', overwhelmingly gay or lesbian and their parents didn't want gay or lesbian kids.

It is homophobic through and through. And as it progressed it picked up many autistic kids, who couldn't understand that it was ok to be gender non conforming. Gender non conforming kids are statistically more likely to grow up gay or lesbian.

There is no 'L or G' when the T is introduced as it turns everything on it's head.

It is a terrible, terrible idea to introduce to confused growing kids.

Yes. So she was talking about gender, not sexuality.

That's exactly my point.

I suggest you take this up with the OP, not me. All I'm doing is repeating the words she used.

LGBT clubs are crucial and incredibly valuable. How dare you say said clubs will be run by activists. That is scaremongering at its worst. My son tried to take his own life because he was surrounded by homophobic language and shunned. He is still battling massively with his MH now as a result. He needed a place to meet others like him. So gay kids can’t have lgbt clubs at school because a few on MN are obsessed with trans ideology - that’s pretty disgusting.

No the op’s long op was about her concerns re homophobia not trans. She made that clear and is handling her concerns well. .

Exactly this. It’s just appalling.

Your attempts to erase literally the first point she makes is quite something.

Literally nothing to do with the op. This is about homophobia and the rights of children to go to school without homophobic lamgsnguage and bullying. Gay children have the right to have inclusivity in the form of assemblies and lunch tine clubs.

I guess I should be grateful that I don't get another laughing gif in response to that post, hmm?

🤣hysterical. It was one word as opposed to an entire post listing in detail where she made it clear her concerns were homophobia. Your attempts to erase is quite something.

There is an entire board almost entirely taken up with spreading moral panic about trans people .

This thread was started by a mother concerned about her teenage boy expressing homophobic attitudes.

Look, everyone can see the OP's thread title, her opening post and her subsequent posts. They are all right there.

Wasn’t laughing, it was yawning. The continual attempts to shoe horn trans debate into everything on MN by a few is boring.

Yep and it’s about homophobia , it’s blatantly clear.