To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

[Calmorchaos]

I’m after some advice really on how to approach this.

I have always been the type of person to support anyone to be who they are. I’ve never shied away or shielded my children from the world - very much a ‘love is love’ person and always encouraged my children to support those who need it and be inclusive ( in terms of people being bullied , disabilities etc too ) .

My youngest is going into high school ( 11 ) . Over the past few months I’ve noticed a few comments such as “ there are 2 genders “ , “ I don’t support LGBTQ “ . I’ve addressed this in the moment . But recently he found out his new school has an LGBTQ assembly on a monthly basis and he has started saying he doesn’t want to go because “ he doesn’t support it” . I sat down and had a chat with him , I explained to him that it isn’t really his place to choose to not agree with it - it’s not a choice , i explained it as he could say he doesn’t agree with people eating meat as that is a choice he would be making , but someone’s sexuality is their feelings and not a choice.

I am sure comments will allow me to explain more how the conversation went from my side so I won’t drag this post on with that but his comments were unnerving :

• he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
• we can choose who we fall in love with
• if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

I know he is very young and he doesn’t understand and has things to learn. He is the sweetest boy and the way he said these things sounded scripted as though he has heard others say this . I know he is a child and it’s my job that guide him and that’s the advice I’m asking for , how do I address this? I’m not saying I need him to go around advocating I just don’t want these views becoming ingrained and he becomes the reason another student who is struggling, struggles more. I know I may be overreacting but this age and as the years go on is a time that he can be heavily influenced . He’s a quiet, sweet boy and I do believe he could be heavily influenced.

Another concerning thing is that when I asked him where he had heard all this and where it comes from he said his Dad .

What? How is my post "nothing to do with this thread" when it was a response to a post on this thread. I even helpfully quoted it, so we all knew what I was referring to.
I note that you haven't told Sabire9 to stop posting.

Right back at you and the others who don’t give two shiny shits re the plight of victims of homophobic bullying and language in schools. So much so when a parent wants to make sure her child isn’t being sucked into homophobia you attempt to hijack the whole thread into yet another trans thread.Just vile.

LGBTQ assemblies (and secret lunch clubs and activist teachers secretly encouraging children to keep secrets from their parents) are part of the tools used to harm children in this way.

I’ve been listening to the hugely informative podcast series by Inciteful Sisters. The episode 17, Protect and Teach about activists in schools who have abandoned basic safeguarding roles and actively encourage children to keep secrets from their parents.

You are very keen to stamp out homophobia but I am bemused at why you can’t see the huge homophobia of the trans industry. Why don’t you listen to other gay people in this very thread telling you about the problem?

The projection is off the charts 🙄

It's the most astonishing blind spot, isn't it?

And again it’s nothing to do with the thread.Homophobic language which often causes gay children to be driven to suicidal idealisation is what it’s about. You want a trans thread start your own.

🤣Oh the irony!

You might need to send that memo to trans identified men like India Willoughby, he not only claims to be a biological woman but that his inverted penis has somehow morphed into a cervix.

At least you know the truth. Biological sex is the important factor in situation where sex segregation is important so there is no claim for ‘gender identity’ to affect that and no need for men to be in women’s spaces. Glad we found agreement eventually.

My child was desperate for an LGBT club they are crucial for gay young people in school. Being able to attend one and having a place to escape the homophobic language he was subjected to may have stopped him trying to take his own life.

Suggesting that inclusion and education are all attempts to harm children is disgusting. My child had/ has a right to inclusion and other homophobic children being educated.

🥱

It’s literally mentioned in the OP.

This has been pointed out, but the poster seems determined to ignore that, repeatedly.

Barely, the focus is on the clearly listed homophobic language and views the op’s son is engaging in. That was clearly the op’s concern and the focus of her op.

Literally the first point she makes is about gender.

I’m sorry for the harm this has done to your family member. I’m sorry that some people who seem to working under a false impression that they are kind would react so heartlessly about a vulnerable kid. It’s quite astounding.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

She came back to 'born in the wrong body' in at least one other post.

Yeah and it’s quite astounding re the way gay children like my son are treated by trans posters like yourselves on MN. It’s vile. You simply don’t give a shit in your obsession with lecturing re trans.

Oh behave.

So you’re going to ignore the actual focus of her posts and the huge amount of reference to homophobic language.

Ask your son if he fancies boys or girls.

If he fancies boys (which I’d be surprised if he’d admit due to his ‘beliefs’) then his homophobic comments are likely due to his feelings around his own sexuality.

If he says he fancies girls, ask him if he chooses to do that. As in, he could fancy boys, but decides to fancy girls instead.

I imagine that will help him understand.

And ignore all the trans debate shite on here people just cannot help themselves.

Have you read the part in the Cass report where she highlights the ‘in joke’ among staff at the Tavistock where the proportion of gay and lesbians kids being referred was so high they said there would be no gay kids left?

’Transing away the gay’ is the phrase coined.

You may not understand the enormity of the issue but your child and his rights are vulnerable to the trans activists.

Stonewall, the TQ+ charity, has actively lobbied government to change the definition of sexual orientation to base it on ‘gender’. If successful, this would render legal protections for your child on the basis of his sexual orientation meaningless. So that homophobic hate crime law you clearly put huge value on would be meaningless. The Legal Feminist or Sex Matters has useful explanations on the technical legal aspects of this.

Even recently, now that the Supreme Court judgement, in a case brought by women who know that biological sex is important and real, benefits your child. If FWS had lost, it would have been detrimental to your child’s rights and protections. The trans activists, to use your words, don’t give a shiny shit about LGB, except when they need to use them to further their own wishes.

I just wish you could understand who the bad guys are here. It’s not me.

🥱Nothing to do with the op.

Homophobia?!