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To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

818 replies

Calmorchaos · 08/07/2025 19:31

I’m after some advice really on how to approach this.

I have always been the type of person to support anyone to be who they are. I’ve never shied away or shielded my children from the world - very much a ‘love is love’ person and always encouraged my children to support those who need it and be inclusive ( in terms of people being bullied , disabilities etc too ) .

My youngest is going into high school ( 11 ) . Over the past few months I’ve noticed a few comments such as “ there are 2 genders “ , “ I don’t support LGBTQ “ . I’ve addressed this in the moment . But recently he found out his new school has an LGBTQ assembly on a monthly basis and he has started saying he doesn’t want to go because “ he doesn’t support it” . I sat down and had a chat with him , I explained to him that it isn’t really his place to choose to not agree with it - it’s not a choice , i explained it as he could say he doesn’t agree with people eating meat as that is a choice he would be making , but someone’s sexuality is their feelings and not a choice.

I am sure comments will allow me to explain more how the conversation went from my side so I won’t drag this post on with that but his comments were unnerving :

  • he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
  • we can choose who we fall in love with
  • if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

I know he is very young and he doesn’t understand and has things to learn. He is the sweetest boy and the way he said these things sounded scripted as though he has heard others say this . I know he is a child and it’s my job that guide him and that’s the advice I’m asking for , how do I address this? I’m not saying I need him to go around advocating I just don’t want these views becoming ingrained and he becomes the reason another student who is struggling, struggles more. I know I may be overreacting but this age and as the years go on is a time that he can be heavily influenced . He’s a quiet, sweet boy and I do believe he could be heavily influenced.

Another concerning thing is that when I asked him where he had heard all this and where it comes from he said his Dad .

OP posts:
senua · 10/07/2025 21:44

Sabire9 · 10/07/2025 21:03

@Ereshkigalangcleg

"Being “T” or “Q” involves a disputed claim about reality"

No it doesn't.

Transgender people know what their biological sex is. They just feel their gender identity isn't congruent with their biological sex. As gender identity is a psychological and social construct this is not a denial of 'reality'.

If transgender people know what their biological sex is, why do transwomen (men, who think they have a female gender) insist on going in women-only spaces?

sneeziseason · 10/07/2025 21:51

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 21:32

Ffs

My username is based on the TV show How To Get Away With Murder.

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

So off topic but I LOVE that series and still think about those characters. Binge watched it during one of the pandemic lockdowns.

Thatsrhesummeroverthen · 10/07/2025 21:53

I have reported Sabire's stalkery post.

SunDash · 10/07/2025 21:56

I was going to say online radicalisation, but if it's his dad, then that's a bit grim.
Perhaps you should firmly advice him, the dad, about not disadvantaging your son with brainless prejudices.
There are awesome people, who could be future friends of your son, but that won't happen because of his father's hang-up s. It's a pity.

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:07

senua · 10/07/2025 21:44

If transgender people know what their biological sex is, why do transwomen (men, who think they have a female gender) insist on going in women-only spaces?

Nothing to do with this thread. Start your own.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:09

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:07

Nothing to do with this thread. Start your own.

You don't get to be the thread police.

Theres nothing wrong with the conversation evolving.

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:10

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:09

You don't get to be the thread police.

Theres nothing wrong with the conversation evolving.

Well there is when it literally has zero to do with the subject. It’s called hijacking.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:11

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:10

Well there is when it literally has zero to do with the subject. It’s called hijacking.

No it isn't.

HTH

Chungai · 10/07/2025 22:14

The OP’s son isn’t being homophobic though. She expressly says that he’d still be friends with someone who turned out to be gay. That’s basic tolerance. It obviously isn’t homophobia.

So if the OP's son wouldn't want to be good friends with a black person because of the colour of their skin that's tolerant and not racist?

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:15

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:11

No it isn't.

HTH

It most certainly is. Honestly just go and start your own or comment on one of the other gazillion trans threads the same posters circulate on continuously posting and hijacking threads with their odd obsession. The rest of us are so bored with it.

Chungai · 10/07/2025 22:15

OP you sound very level headed. Could you look to some male friends / role models to talk to him perhaps? Sadly I think it done like your son may be more influenced by them.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:17

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:15

It most certainly is. Honestly just go and start your own or comment on one of the other gazillion trans threads the same posters circulate on continuously posting and hijacking threads with their odd obsession. The rest of us are so bored with it.

Yet these posts all still stand.

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:21

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Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:22

Chungai · 10/07/2025 22:15

OP you sound very level headed. Could you look to some male friends / role models to talk to him perhaps? Sadly I think it done like your son may be more influenced by them.

Yes I think the OP has handled this well.

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:23

JHound · 10/07/2025 17:32

I cannot take you seriously if you think Mandy’s sexual relationship with an adult man is the same as an 11 year old discussing their age approporiate crush.

Although maybe if Mandy had a sensible aunt to talk to the aunt could have ascertained that what she was discussing was.

Stop obsessing over sexual relationships. Nobody is discussing sexual relationships.

You need to let that go.

And no “fancy” was not my word but if you want to make things up to argue against be my guest.

You seem fixated in only seeing “boyfriend / girlfriend” with an adult context which is your issue not mine.

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I can’t take you seriously as you are determined to encourage young children along a road if relationships that is inappropriate. YOU brought up the ‘boyfriend’ suggestion to your 11 yr old niece.

And you trying to dismiss that and make out I’m being ridiculous in pointing out that it is inappropriate just underlines the issue.

It is ok to tell kids they are too young for something. More adults should remember that.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:25

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How do you know who's reading what posts?

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:27

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And you've the cheek to call me rude after the gif you posted about my cousin's child?

BundleBoogie · 10/07/2025 22:29

Slightyamusedandsilly · 10/07/2025 20:00

Definitely. Not to mention being force fed heteronormativity all the time. I mean, it's mainstream, I get it. But if it was so natural, why do they need to do the brainwashing? So 1/30th of the time they counteract it with LGBTQ. Big deal.

What do you mean by “being force fed heteronormativity”? Who is being brainwashed?

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:29

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:27

And you've the cheek to call me rude after the gif you posted about my cousin's child?

Your ridiculous scaremongering, continual thread hijacking and trans obsession is boring, really boring. There is nothing wrong in pointing that out.

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:32

Anyway back to the thread .Op if you’re still around you could speak to the school or his tutor. Point out your concerns and ask for some advice.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:33

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:29

Your ridiculous scaremongering, continual thread hijacking and trans obsession is boring, really boring. There is nothing wrong in pointing that out.

I shared a story that happened to a
relative of mine.

However much you want this to be 'scaremongering'. It is not.

Your astonishing reaction to her plight speaks volumes about you

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:36

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:33

I shared a story that happened to a
relative of mine.

However much you want this to be 'scaremongering'. It is not.

Your astonishing reaction to her plight speaks volumes about you

You suggesting that much needed inclusive assemblies cause the extreme behaviours you described is scaremongering and pretty vile. Your relation will have been on a whole other journey. An assembly does not a trans child make.

You don’t even have any idea of the content of the assemblies in the ops post. So inflammatory and deeply unpleasant.

OneKookyWasp · 10/07/2025 22:38

I wonder if its time to subdivide this forum.

We could have "AIBU", then "AIBU and talk to me at length re your opinions on transgender ideology"

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:38

To make a general point.

Unfortunately people like my cousin's child, who have detransitioned, but have been harmed by hormone treatment and surgery do exist

However much some people don't want to engage with this truth.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 22:39

Fk48fj · 10/07/2025 22:36

You suggesting that much needed inclusive assemblies cause the extreme behaviours you described is scaremongering and pretty vile. Your relation will have been on a whole other journey. An assembly does not a trans child make.

You don’t even have any idea of the content of the assemblies in the ops post. So inflammatory and deeply unpleasant.

Edited

Read my post again. What I actually said. Not what you imagined I did.