To want to nip this in the bud ( LGBTQ views , child )

[Calmorchaos]

I’m after some advice really on how to approach this.

I have always been the type of person to support anyone to be who they are. I’ve never shied away or shielded my children from the world - very much a ‘love is love’ person and always encouraged my children to support those who need it and be inclusive ( in terms of people being bullied , disabilities etc too ) .

My youngest is going into high school ( 11 ) . Over the past few months I’ve noticed a few comments such as “ there are 2 genders “ , “ I don’t support LGBTQ “ . I’ve addressed this in the moment . But recently he found out his new school has an LGBTQ assembly on a monthly basis and he has started saying he doesn’t want to go because “ he doesn’t support it” . I sat down and had a chat with him , I explained to him that it isn’t really his place to choose to not agree with it - it’s not a choice , i explained it as he could say he doesn’t agree with people eating meat as that is a choice he would be making , but someone’s sexuality is their feelings and not a choice.

I am sure comments will allow me to explain more how the conversation went from my side so I won’t drag this post on with that but his comments were unnerving :

• he believes someone chooses to be gay , they can control it but they choose it
• we can choose who we fall in love with
• if a friend of his told him he was gay he would still be friends with them but not as good because they chose to be gay and he doesn’t support it.

I know he is very young and he doesn’t understand and has things to learn. He is the sweetest boy and the way he said these things sounded scripted as though he has heard others say this . I know he is a child and it’s my job that guide him and that’s the advice I’m asking for , how do I address this? I’m not saying I need him to go around advocating I just don’t want these views becoming ingrained and he becomes the reason another student who is struggling, struggles more. I know I may be overreacting but this age and as the years go on is a time that he can be heavily influenced . He’s a quiet, sweet boy and I do believe he could be heavily influenced.

Another concerning thing is that when I asked him where he had heard all this and where it comes from he said his Dad .

My cousin's child did.

I'm not sure how many assemblies there were, but she very influenced by an activist teacher at school and transitioned. She took testosterone a while, but thankfully didn't have any surgery.

A few years later she detransitioned - she realised that her problems were not about being 'trans'. Unfortunately been left with significant health problems because of her time taking T.

So yes. Tragically it does happen.

Honestly, I might be going against the grain but I'd come down hard on him

If he was being racist, or saying that women deserve to be raped, it would be disgusting. This is also.

What hes saying is unacceptable - I'd be checking his internet history and watching social media as Andrew tate is bound to have slipped in there.

I'm not saying your child is bigoted at all, op, I want to be clear. But what hes saying is bigoted and needs punishment. And to be told he will be in that assembly and be polite and respectful to those who are different from him. Nip this in the bud, before it gets worse x

It's a Sin (brilliant though it is) is absolutely not suitable for an 11-year old! Would you want your 11-year old watching extremely graphic representations of intercourse, whether heterosexual or homosexual?

No kids don’t transition after lgbtq assemblies. There is far more to it as you well know.

This! 👏

Thats just really offensive you know.

This is a real person, dealing with some very significant challenges.

How dare you post that gif.

Exactly, but just goes to show how me-centric people are these days!

@Ereshkigalangcleg

"Being “T” or “Q” involves a disputed claim about reality"

No it doesn't.

Transgender people know what their biological sex is. They just feel their gender identity isn't congruent with their biological sex. As gender identity is a psychological and social construct this is not a denial of 'reality'.

And this is the 'be kind' brigade that come out with things like this. I have no words.

In the Sandie Peggie tribunal Dr Upton who is a man who identifies as a woman stated under oath that he was a biological female.

He also said that if a female patient specifically requested a female doctor he would still treat her.

"I'm not sure how many assemblies there were, but she very influenced by an activist teacher at school and transitioned"

You absolutely CAN believe this deranged story by a poster who has posted obsessively on this topic on mumsnet - thousands and thousands words trashing transgender people and anyone and everyone who supports their right to exist. 😂

One day if I've got a few hours to waste, I'll go through their mumsnet posts and make a list of all their stories about transgender 'wrongdoings' they've apparently personally witnessed/experienced/heard about. They're legion.

Your child will inevitably be influenced by both of you and it does no harm for a child to learn that two people can live happily together with different views. But when it is something factually inaccurate rather than an opinion then it becomes more problematical.

You cannot stop your OH influencing your child with his views any more than he can stop you with yours. You two need to hold a conversation about this.

On another note I absolutely disagree with the assembly that his school holds. It is ridiculous. I would demand a heterosexual assembly ... but how silly that would be. An assembly about kindness to all ... now that would make sense.

And I've spoken about my cousins child often.

You can check that out too while you're at it.

Look, I know some of you are being desperate to make out none of this is happening, but it happened to our family.

Is her story and lived experience not valid or something?

She's wrong.

And most transgender people don't agree with her.

But of course as a TERF you'll trawl the internet looking for examples of transgender people taking these sorts of positions and share them repeatedly, because you're very committed to making transgender people look as bad as possible. You're no different from Reform voters who obsessively share and repeat stories about migrant crime.

There's a lot of playing the player, not the ball going on @Sabire9

How about you debate the points instead of trying to smear everyone?

You don't need to trawl the Internet to know about Dr Upton. The tribunal has been widely reported on in the media.

A doctor stating he will violate the consent of a female patient is making himself look bad with no help required from me.

He's not the only one to say he's a biological female it's just a bimirire worrying when a doctor thinks this rather someone like India Willoughby

I wonder what AI thinks of my user name

Ffs

My username is based on the TV show How To Get Away With Murder.

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And I post on lots of topics

God forbid someone should be interested in something.

For anyone who wants more info on my username. Apologies for the pointless spamming 🫠

The "Keating 5" on the show How to Get Away with Murder refers to five law students chosen by Professor Annalise Keating for her internship program. They are: Wes Gibbins, Connor Walsh, Michaela Pratt, Asher Millstone, and Laurel Castillo. The group gets entangled in a murder cover-up, specifically the death of Annalise's husband, Sam Keating, and this event forms the central plot of the show's first season.

I'm a big fan of Annalise. Loved that show

Indeed. Especially when they've personal reason to be interested in it.