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Friend shouted at my 2 year old

337 replies

hmm01 · 07/07/2025 23:08

So I popped in to see my friend of 15 years today (we’re 30s now) with my 2 year old.

We were chatting and my 2yo was throwing a ball for her dog, then came to sit on my lap and was laughing and over excited about the dog and pulled my hair. This happens very rarely, slapping, biting or pulling hair when over excited and silly.

Before I had a chance to deal with it, my friend shouted so loud that it made me jump and my child burst into tears. She shouted “DO NOT TOUCH YOUR MUM LIKE THAT” she then went on a rant about how I need to do it back or they’ll keep doing it. We are not a shouty house, we don’t scream and shout at our child ever. We have a calm house so said child isn’t used to this. We explain why they are not to do it, show them how to touch gently and then we say “what do you say” and then we get a sorry and a cuddle and then move on from it. I think I was in shock that she shouted so loud at my child.

She has 3 older kids in their teens and to put it as bluntly but nicely as I can, they’ve all suffered as a result of her verbal abuse and I’ve seen her smack them (not hard but I had no children and I didn’t realise the impact in my early 20s) when they were younger and now she doesn’t have a nice relationship with any of them. They spend all their time in their bedrooms and she recently told me she booked a holiday with them and none of them want to go, they want to go and see their Dad for a couple of weeks instead while she goes alone.

I spent a lot of years helping her with them when their Dad left, I was there every morning to help get them ready for school, breakfast etc I did pick ups when I could, had them stay at mine for weeks during holidays so she could get a break and now I feel really angry that she spoke to my child like that. She isn’t their parent. I said “I’m going to shoot” straight after that and left and now I wish I’d of laid into her a little bit and told her to keep her nose out, it’s my child and I’ll speak to them how I see fit and I’m certainly not pulling their hair, biting or smacking them EVER.

How do I navigate this? I am also heavily pregnant and willing to be told that I’m upset over nothing here, my emotions are all over the place recently!

OP posts:
DogsandFlowers · 08/07/2025 15:39

PopeJoan2 · 08/07/2025 12:04

No. Her post is not Twatty.

It was a bit ☺️
Also the capital T you used was unnecessary and grammatically incorrect.
Enjoy your day PoorGrammar2 sorry I mean PopeJoan2

PopeJoan2 · 08/07/2025 18:56

thepariscrimefiles · 08/07/2025 12:25

Honestly, this thread reminds me of a thread where OP's small child bit an adult (I think it was a grandparent) who bit them back on the arm.

Many posters were as outraged as the OP but a number of posters proudly announced that they bit their toddlers to 'teach then a lesson' and one poster did it to her baby who bit her during breast feeding. There are some seriously fucked up people on here sometimes.

Typo. That’s quite disturbing.

PopeJoan2 · 08/07/2025 18:59

DogsandFlowers · 08/07/2025 15:39

It was a bit ☺️
Also the capital T you used was unnecessary and grammatically incorrect.
Enjoy your day PoorGrammar2 sorry I mean PopeJoan2

Do errors of grammar upset you? Good! Have some more:

Yaaaawwwnnnnn!!!!!!

DogsandFlowers · 08/07/2025 20:01

PopeJoan2 · 08/07/2025 18:59

Do errors of grammar upset you? Good! Have some more:

Yaaaawwwnnnnn!!!!!!

That’s a spelling error!
Cool hope you have a nice day 😝

PopeJoan2 · 08/07/2025 21:00

DogsandFlowers · 08/07/2025 20:01

That’s a spelling error!
Cool hope you have a nice day 😝

Hahahaha!! I noticed that as soon as I posted it. Damn you!!!!’

DogsandFlowers · 08/07/2025 21:38

PopeJoan2 · 08/07/2025 21:00

Hahahaha!! I noticed that as soon as I posted it. Damn you!!!!’

Ok at least you realised 🤩
Grammar police 👮‍♀️
😘

TheAmusedQuail · 08/07/2025 23:54

Grangerr · 08/07/2025 13:52

If the way to get your 14 and 16 year old to take notice is by shouting I suggest you've gone wrong somewhere along the way.

Perhaps too much shouting...?

I don't have children that age. But at some point, given the age difference, the OP will.

Gentle parenting won't do her any favours then.

savagedaughter · 08/07/2025 23:56

hmm01 · 08/07/2025 11:54

I think it’s time to stop commenting on this thread now, we all have different parenting styles.

I don’t think I’m wrong for not shouting at DD but instead being firm but also keeping control of my own emotions/frustrations and I’m glad I married a man who agrees with that.

DD is a lovely kid, she is kind and caring and has lots of friends at nursery and within my friendship group. I’m really proud of her and I’m also not going to let anyone tell me that the occasional smack or whatever from a 2 year old isn’t normal, I know it’s developmentally normal and science backs that but I’ll leave that for you to all have your opinions on. It’s not an every day, every week or every month thing and although she has tantrums (again normal) she hasn’t ever done it whilst being upset, she’s done it only when she’s excited but she still gets a firm no and she doesn’t repeat it, that stops her and I’m not going to punish her over and over again if she’s listened to me and stopped what I’ve asked her to stop doing. What is the point in that other than bullying a child to feel in control?

I’ll leave this thread now, I’ve reported it to Mumsnet as the pile on has got out of control.

You can ask them to remove the thread. You cannot silence dissenting views, however.

Gallivanterer · 09/07/2025 02:47

BunnyLake · 08/07/2025 12:07

I thinks there’s a difference between being a shouty house (in OP’s context and own childhood experience) and being a noisy house. We’re not shouty but we can be noisy (sometimes). A shouty house is what my friend did and it was pretty uncomfortable, a noisy house can be fun and full of positive energy.

Urgh I cant take the tweeness!

Im sure a Noisy House(TM) is great fun for the neighbours

OneCalmFish · 09/07/2025 05:28

hmm01 · 07/07/2025 23:41

I’m precious because I don’t think that shouting resolves anything?

I grew up in a very volatile home, shouting and swearing and beating the shit out of each other when they were drunk was the norm for my parents.

I don’t need to shout.

I knew you were going to say this. For what it’s worth my biggest regret is my older kids volatile home life leaving didn’t even improve that. Having a little one with my DP we are naturally not a shouty home, he actually used to cry just off shouting at football on tv was so not used to it. I agree it’s not a great way to resolve conflict/issues and I’m assuming you learnt that first hand. Having said that I’ve shouted when DC is doing something dangerous to get him to stop immediately. I too wouldn’t like someone else choosing to discipline my child in front of me but I would also say so straight away

SilverTotoro · 09/07/2025 05:56

OP on the off chance you’re still reading replies - well done on doing a great job bringing up your child in a safe environment.

DH and I don’t shout at toddlers either. I also grew up in a shouty home and don’t want that for my children. That doesn’t mean not having boundaries but yelling or shouting just shows you’ve lost control of the situation. A firm no and redirection is much more age appropriate and effective.

Grangerr · 09/07/2025 08:07

TheAmusedQuail · 08/07/2025 23:54

I don't have children that age. But at some point, given the age difference, the OP will.

Gentle parenting won't do her any favours then.

How do you know if you don't have children that age? What an arrogant thing to say.

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