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Michael Jackson was a paedophile. Why does the local school choose one of his songs for the kids to perform to?

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P0d · 05/07/2025 08:36

I also have a friend whose little boy has learnt all his moves and she puts MJ on for him to dance to.

I don’t understand, hearing his music makes me feel sick.

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Motomum23 · 05/07/2025 08:52

You'd have to pretty much live in a bubble of your own manufacture if you wanted to escape anything that might have been created by a paedophile - they are in all the upper levels of our civilisation.

Dita73 · 05/07/2025 08:52

He wasn’t convicted of anything but his behaviour was at the very least inappropriate. This however would not stop me listening to his music if I wanted to. I’d also be fine with my grandsons listening to it.

crumblingschools · 05/07/2025 08:54

I’m assuming people would be up in arms if the school showed an old episode of Jim’ll Fix It to the pupils (he is dead and wasn’t convicted either)

K0OLA1D · 05/07/2025 08:54

Dita73 · 05/07/2025 08:52

He wasn’t convicted of anything but his behaviour was at the very least inappropriate. This however would not stop me listening to his music if I wanted to. I’d also be fine with my grandsons listening to it.

I am unsure of the MJ stance. I dont like his music. But do you have a line?

I used to love the Lost Prophets, seen them in my teens. Had posters of Ian Watkins on my wall. I couldn't ever listen to them now. The thought turns my stomach.

Steelworks · 05/07/2025 08:54

I don’t quite get why Michael Jackson is so revered nowadays either, although I appreciate his music was superb. Other artists have been demonised for a lot less.

Yes, I know he was never proved guilty, but if you judge his way of life using today’s criteria, then it looked very dodgy.

My own personal little stance on this is I refuse to go to MJ the musical.

gattocattivo · 05/07/2025 08:57

What about all the musicians and performers who have used drugs and therefore contribute to the trafficking/murder/gang warfare/exploitation of children which directly results from production and dealing of illegal drugs?

do you listen to any music OP?

RichardOsmanTheSecond · 05/07/2025 08:57

Because for some reason, mainstream media seems to have forgotten this and it is OK to have stage shows, play his song on the radio and have kids dance to them.

P0d · 05/07/2025 08:57

But nobody doubts that he slept in bed with young boys. If your anyone else did that would you think it was innocent?
I find it so weird that people can’t see it.
why are Saville and Glitter demonised but MJ is still some God. He wasn’t convicted because he was one of the richest and most famous people alive.

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sandwichlover93 · 05/07/2025 08:57

Yes I find this weird too. Yet there’s someone on another thread complaining that Oasis played a Gary glitter song last night (spoiler: they didn’t)….

P0d · 05/07/2025 08:58

gattocattivo · 05/07/2025 08:57

What about all the musicians and performers who have used drugs and therefore contribute to the trafficking/murder/gang warfare/exploitation of children which directly results from production and dealing of illegal drugs?

do you listen to any music OP?

Using drugs is really not comparable ffs

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BunfightBetty · 05/07/2025 08:58

It’s just music, isn’t it. And he’s dead, so won’t benefit from the royalties.

We don’t need to make some sort m virtue signal to the world in our choice of music to listen to, or what films we watch, or which novels we read. None of us are that important, anyway!

Separate the art from the artist. Or we’ll be down to about four singers we can listen to.

K0OLA1D · 05/07/2025 08:59

BunfightBetty · 05/07/2025 08:58

It’s just music, isn’t it. And he’s dead, so won’t benefit from the royalties.

We don’t need to make some sort m virtue signal to the world in our choice of music to listen to, or what films we watch, or which novels we read. None of us are that important, anyway!

Separate the art from the artist. Or we’ll be down to about four singers we can listen to.

It really isn't always possible to separate art from artist

P0d · 05/07/2025 09:01

I definitely can’t separate it. Disgusting man

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NooNakedJacuzziness · 05/07/2025 09:01

I really wish someone else would record a new version of Rock n Roll part 1(?) as that is an absolute banger of a tune

RichardOsmanTheSecond · 05/07/2025 09:03

The parents of the kids accepted a pay off which meant that a lot of fans decided they weren't telling the truth. In reality is was probably more that, even if they had a confession from MJ himself, his lawyers would have made it impossible for normal families to pursue legal action so this was the best option for them.

WhereOnEarthIsMyPlanet · 05/07/2025 09:03

P0d · 05/07/2025 08:57

But nobody doubts that he slept in bed with young boys. If your anyone else did that would you think it was innocent?
I find it so weird that people can’t see it.
why are Saville and Glitter demonised but MJ is still some God. He wasn’t convicted because he was one of the richest and most famous people alive.

I don’t think he was ‘some God’. I think he was a very fucked up man who (probably) did some very fucked up things.
I don’t think any child is going to be harmed by prancing around to a Michael Jackson song though.

WonderingWanda · 05/07/2025 09:04

I was a huge fan of MJ growing up but the allegations and his increasingly odd behaviour before he died really soured my opinions and therefore his music. However, I do sometimes hear his music on the radio and sing along and honestly if my kids danced to it it wouldn't matter, he is entirely irrelevant to them.

Whatafustercluck · 05/07/2025 09:04

He was never convicted. And many still fall for that whole "he was too much of a child himself to do that" facade. There is a hard core of his fans who, even if he had been convicted, would still believe it was a conspiracy.

I personally believe he was one, and I agree that there's enough controversy around him to make it a questionable choice for children to perform one of his songs.

But there are artists (authors, musicians, painters etc) throughout history who were surrounded by controversy, or had questionable morals and we still read, listen to and look at their art.

Dita73 · 05/07/2025 09:05

Maybe I just find it easier to separate the artist from the music. When I hear songs they remind me of certain things which is probably what I like more than the song. A nostalgic thing. Having said that I love Woody Allen’s films and I still watch them. I can’t say the first thing I think of when I watch Annie Hall is “pervert”

ThatCyanCat · 05/07/2025 09:06

Roald Dahl was an antisemite.

P0d · 05/07/2025 09:06

I honestly cringed watching the kids on stage dancing around to a paedophiles songs. Wouldn’t have let them dance to Lost Prophets or Gary Glitter.

not convicted? Fuck off
95% of rapists don’t get convicted either

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ColinOfficeTrolley · 05/07/2025 09:07

Lol at calling MJ 'a tad eccentric'. He was a hiding in plain sight peado.

LBFseBrom · 05/07/2025 09:07

We don't know he was a paedophile.

P0d · 05/07/2025 09:08

LBFseBrom · 05/07/2025 09:07

We don't know he was a paedophile.

Seriously?

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gamerchick · 05/07/2025 09:08

P0d · 05/07/2025 08:39

But that child will grow up and realise mummy was making him dance to paedo songs

I've never been able to make a kid dance.