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Bit of a situation with widowed dad from school… need advice

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Donaldfo · 04/07/2025 13:09

Hi all,
Bit of a long one and honestly not sure what I’m after really.

So I’ve been seeing this widowed dad from my youngest’s school. Started off just chatting at pick up, then a coffee, then it sort of turned into a thing. He lost his wife a couple years back, proper lovely guy, really good dad to his two boys. We’ve been seeing each other a couple months, nothing serious serious, but nice.

Anyway, here’s the thing – I’ve just found out I’m pregnant.

I was on the pill and we were using condoms (bar one time – classic) so it’s a bit of a shock. I’ve taken two tests and both positive.

Haven’t told him yet. Was going to say something this weekend when we’ve got a bit of time together. I’m not expecting him to throw confetti or anything but I don’t think he’ll freak out either.

I’ve got two kids already (from a previous ex – all calm there), and wasn’t planning on another. But I don’t feel panicked like I thought I would? Probably cos I actually like him and I don’t feel like I’m on my own with it, even though I’ve not told him yet.

Just wondering what others would do in this situation. Do I go in with all the options laid out or just say it and see what he says?

I know people might have views about the widowed dad thing but we’ve both been adults about it, no drama. Just not what I expected to be dealing with today.

Any thoughts appreciated x

OP posts:
Zellycat · 05/07/2025 16:48

BestIntentioned · 05/07/2025 16:43

Sorry that should have said 8 weeks, not 3.

Did OP say 2-3 weeks pregnant on test results area … but it’s possibly 8 because that was first sex but with a condom. Not sure she said when the unprotected sex was …..

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IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 05/07/2025 16:48

BestIntentioned · 05/07/2025 16:36

I feel so sorry for:

a) the two boys who have experienced the death of their mother and their father’s grief
b) this man, who has watched his wife die (I’ve made the assumption it was illness), and whilst grieving has had to not show it too much to his two kids and give them as much stability as possible
c) your autistic 10 year old, who may well be tail-spinned by this
d) your youngest.
e) I have a tiny bit of sympathy for you for not wanting to terminate, but any sympathy would evaporate if you put everyone through this.

you say you wanted a third baby. These are not the circumstances in which you have another baby.

Besides, we don’t always get what we want.

Anything could happen. You could have twins. You could have a child with complex needs.

You are 3 weeks???

The OP didn't want advice. She wanted to be patted on the head by the "ooh, a baby, congratulations" and "do what's best for you" crowd.

LegoTherapy · 05/07/2025 16:50

I can’t see that the wife’s family will take the news of a pregnancy a few weeks after being told he’s in a new relationship very well at all. It sounds like he’s not told them about you and is now thinking shit! I best tell them now so I can later tell them she’s pregnant. It will be obvious to her parents that you were pregnant when he told them about you. It might work out okay but the odds are against it sadly.

Does autism run through your side of the family or your ex’s side? I’d be worried about having another child who might also have significant additional needs. I say that as someone who is ND and has 3 dc that are also likely ND who even without significant needs when they were 5 and under, suddenly needed a lot more input especially in the teenage years. You could potentially be doing this alone and you need to prepare for that possibility. I’ve raised my son alone from the get go and I have no regrets but it’s bloody hard now that his needs have ramped up.

PigmyGoat · 05/07/2025 16:55

Areyouactuallyjokingme · 05/07/2025 16:08

@Donaldfo As the saying goes, What's for you won't go by you! You both sound like lovely, respectful people. Both thinking of everyone and not just what's best for yourself! And with the precautions you were taking, just maybe this baby is meant to be? They sure put up a good fight to get here!
I can't believe how many peoples first reaction is to terminate 😕
Anyway, just sending some happy and positive vibes. I'm sure you will make the right decision for all involved ❤️

There's always one, isn't there?

"A baby is always a blessing". "It was meant to be." "Everything happens for a reason..."

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 05/07/2025 17:00

You’ve been seeing him since mid may.

You’re not his girlfriend.

I’ve got a courgette in the fridge I’ve had as long.

TheOnlyAletheia · 05/07/2025 17:04

What a shitshow.

2 children, bereaved.
1 child ND.
A short, uncommitted relationship.
A bloke who is at the very best, luke warm about the pregnancy.

There is a rational decision in this that would work out better for the children in all this (and probably for the OP), but seems like she's made up her mind.

Congratulations OP, I'm sure that it will work out perfectly!

DorothyandtheWizardry · 05/07/2025 17:04

Donaldfo · 05/07/2025 16:18

Just popping back on again – wanted to say thank you to the posters who’ve been kind and non-judgemental. I know it’s a messy situation and it won’t be everyone’s cup of tea but some of the support and honest, balanced replies have really helped me get my head straight.

Just to clear up a few more things that keep coming up:

Yes – I am in a relationship. We’re just not publicly in one at the moment. That doesn’t mean it’s not real. We’re seeing each other, we care about each other, we’re exclusive, and it’s been building for a while now even if it’s been under the radar. The boys have playdates and see each other and we’ve known each other for ages from the school run and kids’ birthdays. This didn’t just spring out of nowhere.

As for the baby – I’m keeping all the kids in mind. His, mine, the potential one. That’s exactly why I haven’t rushed into any decision. There’s still a long way to go. There’s always a miscarriage risk early on and I don’t even know how far along I am at this point. I'll be ringing the GP next wee. Right now I’m trying to just take it step by step. We don’t need to figure out everything immediately – that would be stressful and unrealistic.

And no – I didn’t get pregnant for money. I don’t want his money. I’ve raised my two just fine on my own and was in no way looking for a man to bankroll me. When we started talking more and he first asked if I wanted to get a coffee, I had no clue what his finances were like. I knew him from school, not his payslip. It’s not what attracted me and still isn’t. He’s kind, thoughtful, funny and a brilliant dad to his boys. I genuinely enjoy his company and feel comfortable with him in a way I didn’t expect. I don’t even know his exact income – I just know his job title and have a rough idea from that. I’ve never asked. It’s not my business right now.

He did say he’s going to tell his wife’s family about us first – not the pregnancy. He thinks that would be too much for them to take in all at once and I agree. It makes sense to wait. We both said we don’t want to tell anyone else until after the 12 week scan anyway – it’s early days and we’re both still working through our thoughts. I’m undecided but if I’m totally honest I don’t know if I could go through with a termination, not after the two miscarriages I had before. It’s a lot emotionally and I just need time.

Again, thank you to the posters who’ve taken time to listen instead of just judge. I know it’s not simple but I’m doing my best.

You asked for opinions.

It's no good saying some posters aren't listening when they give opinions you don' t like. This is AIBU and you have chosen to post a very contentious issue on a part of MN that is renowned for straight talking. You could have chosen to post in Relationships or Pregnancy. You wanted 'traffic'.

In fact you're asking if you're unreasonable - so what is the unreasonable?

As for the baby – I’m keeping all the kids in mind. His, mine, the potential one. That’s exactly why I haven’t rushed into any decision. There’s still a long way to go. There’s always a miscarriage risk early on and I don’t even know how far along I am at this point.

You said you thought you were 2 to 3 weeks pregnant . That means you have missed one period by a few days.

I'm sorry you're going through this but your posts seem full of contradictions. I'm not you, but if I were, I'd not even consider going ahead with the pregnancy. His children and mine would be foremost in my mind. It's not fair on them however much you fantasise about it being happy families forever.

You say now you're in a relationship (another contradiction) but your first post said it was very casual We’ve been seeing each other a couple months, nothing serious serious, but nice.

You change your posts according to the criticism that's posted.

WhereIsMyJumper · 05/07/2025 17:06

I really don’t think this board was the right place for the OP to post this.

If I was in OP’s position, I would 100% get a termination. But I don’t want any more children, never did and have never experienced a miscarriage so my circumstances are entirely different.

I don’t think it’s fair to say she is being selfish. Her posts read to me like she is absolutely trying to figure out the best decision to make in a very difficult situation. Nowhere do I get the vibe she is thinking “I will do what I want and fuck everyone else”

I also think she’s been pretty patient on here considering how hormonal she must feel and how stressed she must be and is now getting some awful accusations launched at her.

I feel bad for all of them. For the OP, for all the children involved and for the her DP too. Don’t forget, she only found out very recently - only told her DP yesterday. She needs some time to think and decide and ponder etc - as does her DP. On what planet would anyone launch such horrible insults and snarky comments at a woman in such a horrible situation??

Grapewrath · 05/07/2025 17:06

Some of these replies are fucking wild.
Op, I hope you are ok. You aren’t the first person to have an accidental pregnancy in less than ideal circumstances and you won’t be the last.
im not sure why people are insisting you should have a termination when you sound like you want to keep the baby.
I also don’t understand the hysteria around his deceased wife’s family. She’s been dead years and he was bound to move on. Yes it happened quickly but really, it’s non of their concern. Their only concern should be his kids, who will still be looked after by a loving and supportive parent.
It’s sooner than ideal but it doesn’t have to be a disaster if everyone is mindful, respectful and considerate.
OP doesn’t even have to move in with her boyfriend yet, so each home could remain as it is to an extent.

TheIceBear · 05/07/2025 17:06

Kikingk · 05/07/2025 16:03

Parents don't automatically become monsters when they have another kid. People will be dicks about whatever they like, they can also choose not to be.

There's so much odd carastrophying happening here.

I’ll be honest , I’d be horrified if my dad told me he got a woman I don’t know pregnant before we had even been introduced. And I’m almost 40 not 10.

DorothyandtheWizardry · 05/07/2025 17:09

Nowhere do I get the vibe she is thinking “I will do what I want and fuck everyone else”

That is exactly how she comes over to me but she tries to cover it up as she knows it won't go down well.

We all read between the lines differently.

AllyDally · 05/07/2025 17:10

TheIceBear · 05/07/2025 17:06

I’ll be honest , I’d be horrified if my dad told me he got a woman I don’t know pregnant before we had even been introduced. And I’m almost 40 not 10.

I would expect that reaction from a 10 yo, or a teen. Not from a grown adult though. Surely by 40 you know that these things can happen. Horrified seems a strong reaction, I'd be asking myself why my dad didnt feel he could tell me.

DorothyandtheWizardry · 05/07/2025 17:12

@Grapewrath she died 2years and a bit ago. You clearly don't understand grief. 2 years is nothing.

We also don't know how much childcare his parents are giving. They may be fully involved in his life and looking after his children.

Assuming they are in their 60s or 70s, they may be very shocked he's got a woman pregnant- one they have not met and who he's only dated for 8 weeks.

I'm broadminded but that would shock me.

TheIceBear · 05/07/2025 17:19

AllyDally · 05/07/2025 17:10

I would expect that reaction from a 10 yo, or a teen. Not from a grown adult though. Surely by 40 you know that these things can happen. Horrified seems a strong reaction, I'd be asking myself why my dad didnt feel he could tell me.

thats grand that you wouldn’t expect it but I am sure that type of reaction isn’t unusual in any age group but particularly children. Why would you be asking yourself anything if it’s no big deal? And I wouldn’t be forced to deal with the consequences unlike the poor existing kids. It’s just incredibly selfish.

Lorelaigilless · 05/07/2025 17:22

Clearly you just want people to say “keep the baby, crack on, it’ll all be perfect”, and you’ve obviously decided to keep it. The irony of you saying you don’t think you could handle an abortion after two miscarriages but totally ignoring the extreme upheaval this will have on his two young sons who lost their mother and are expected to accept a whole new family, and baby sibling in about 8 months time. Baffling.

Grapewrath · 05/07/2025 17:23

DorothyandtheWizardry · 05/07/2025 17:12

@Grapewrath she died 2years and a bit ago. You clearly don't understand grief. 2 years is nothing.

We also don't know how much childcare his parents are giving. They may be fully involved in his life and looking after his children.

Assuming they are in their 60s or 70s, they may be very shocked he's got a woman pregnant- one they have not met and who he's only dated for 8 weeks.

I'm broadminded but that would shock me.

Please don’t assume what I know about grief.
His wife’s family are entitled to feel whatever they want, however they aren’t entitled to dictate how or when he moves on, regardless of any support they provide.
His responsibility is to his children, not their wider family.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 05/07/2025 17:24

Agree OP. This is not a committed exclusive relationship that started the end of May.

Winter2020 · 05/07/2025 17:33

Op1n1onsPlease · 05/07/2025 14:59

Maybe you’ve missed my point, which is that you have absolutely no idea what his wife’s family think of him and why.

I know that they don't begrudge the chap finding a new partner as OP has said as much.

Also to add it doesn't really matter what they think. They can be told sensitively but if they declare "no you should not move on or have anymore children you useless twerp" nobody need take any notice.

GeorgeMichaelsAunt · 05/07/2025 17:33

You said you thought you were 2 to 3 weeks pregnant . That means you have missed one period by a few days.

@DorothyandtheWizardry

I think these needs said again. And again, and again. A few days late for a period.

pusspuss9 · 05/07/2025 17:36

GabriellaMontez · 05/07/2025 13:34

You know men can say "no"? Even at the last moment.

well of course they can, but the only one that counts regarding risk of pregnancy is the woman's, and they are usually fully aware of that.

IleftmybaginNewportPagnell · 05/07/2025 17:37

DorothyandtheWizardry · 05/07/2025 17:12

@Grapewrath she died 2years and a bit ago. You clearly don't understand grief. 2 years is nothing.

We also don't know how much childcare his parents are giving. They may be fully involved in his life and looking after his children.

Assuming they are in their 60s or 70s, they may be very shocked he's got a woman pregnant- one they have not met and who he's only dated for 8 weeks.

I'm broadminded but that would shock me.

2 years is nothing...
In this scenario, I would be the sister of the wife who has passed away and I have a teenage nephew who lost his mum two years ago last week. It's no time at all, I agree. My darling nephew has a two counselling sessions per week and a social worker, plus the family always and unconditionally looking out for him. None of this is or will ever be enough.

GeorgeMichaelsAunt · 05/07/2025 17:37

@Zellycat - sorry I was referring to the relationship, not the late period. (Or if she must have it, pregnancy.) I said something like she'd been having sex with him for 3 weeks but it is 8 weeks. All of 8 weeks.

Jesus, I can barely write that down. Someone old enough to have two kids, a job, a household, whose been having sex with a bloke, has irregular periods, oophs gets pregnant and is "leaning towards" keeping it.

AllyDally · 05/07/2025 17:40

Some very lovely friends of mine lost their son about 7 years ago now, their DIL has a new boyfriend, was over 5 years after but they still cant accept it. GC arent that young either but they arent wrong to feel like that, no time is probably enough for them. Its horrible to have lost a child but it doesn't mean their DIL should never move on.

DorothyandtheWizardry · 05/07/2025 17:42

Grapewrath · 05/07/2025 17:23

Please don’t assume what I know about grief.
His wife’s family are entitled to feel whatever they want, however they aren’t entitled to dictate how or when he moves on, regardless of any support they provide.
His responsibility is to his children, not their wider family.

Edited

I didn't say they had the right to dictate what he did.
Either consciously or not, you're twisting what I said.

I said they would be shocked- which is what he has said.

The connection between support they offer now and the new baby is that he may assume they would also help look after a 3rd child if he co-parents.

Winter2020 · 05/07/2025 17:52

Boddica2000 · 05/07/2025 16:11

Christ, this is upsetting, when you lay it out so clearly. The poor wee souls.

I wrote upthread about my friend "J" and how her mum died when she was 4. I knew her all my life and not having a mum was such a huge part of her. She would hang on to the scraps she had, some photos, a pair of her mum's shoes, she would listen intently to every word anyone said about her mum. She was so jealous of me for having my mum (not in a bad way and as I said in the previous post I did not blame her one bit).

When we were about 13 we tried, ridiculously, to have a seance so she could talk to her mum, she would have given anything and everything to hear her mum's voice, to get a chance to talk to her. She was living in the same house her mum died in at the time (I remember thinking when I was a bit older thank God the seance didn't work!)

She took me with her to her mum's grave a few times. J never got over the loss of her mother, and it affected her throughout her entire life. I moved away and haven't seen her in a decade or so, but yeah - the loss of a loving mum is an absolutely devastating event in a child's life. Incomparable. Any relationships must be managed slowly, carefully and with great empathy and caution for the sake of all the kids, but especially those who lost their mum.

The bottom line is, blended families happen because adults don't want to be on their own, for a variety of reasons.

Edited

Of course it's dreadful to lose your mum. But can a loving step mum never add to a child's life rather than take from it?

I believe so anyway.

Perhaps a good relationship with a loving step mum would have eased your friend's pain a little. Perhaps her deceased mother would have been grateful she had a loving step mum in her life too.

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