I hate anti-vaxxers

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How can anyone in this day and age be an anti-vaxxer? London and West mids currently suffering from a meassls outbreak. DS is under 1 so cannot yet have vaccine, I know of someone whose 10momth old contracted measels as they were too young for vaccine.
Ridiculous that reckless and tardy parents are putting all our children at risk. Actually terrible.

What a disgusting thing to say.

You've contradicted yourself - your only concern is yourself and your family, yet in the next sentence you say you won't do 'stuff' to your body or your kid's body? You need to protect your family by vaccinating them, not leaving them to get sick when you could have protected them with an extremely safe vaccine! I just don't understand that attitude. And by the way you do 'stuff' to your body every single day by eating, breathing and drinking! Perhaps give that some thought?

Depends on the vaccine. People should have all the regular ones that have been around for decades. However, not wanting the Covid jab didn't make someone an anti vaxxer, it just made them anti that 'vaccine.'

Being sceptical about a vaccine that wasn't actually a vaccine and got pumped out in record time therefore had no long term latent side effects research was not something I was ever going to take willingly, despite the media scaremongering and peer pressure.

Unfortunately we are seeing those delayed effects coming home to roost.

I'd add you are either all for bodily autonomy or you aren't. I've seen men online going insane about potential vax mandates during the pandemic, whilst still supporting the abolition of abortion rights.

OP are you pro choice by any chance? If so you have to accept the decisions people make with their own bodies otherwise it is hypocrisy.

And yet other people’s families are impacted by your grossly ignorant belligerence.

Someone very close to me is deaf because of an illness in childhood that they hadn't been vaccinated against.

Yet here you are, using the internet, created by scientists, seemingly without concern. Let me guess, if your kid gets really unwell, you wouldn't hesitate to benefit from science then, would you?

Not true.

Anti-vax ears are making it dangerous for everyone, particularly those who cannot gave vaccines for medical reasons, those who are vaccinated but they didn’t work, those who are vaccinated but it’s not as effective due to medical reasons. All of those above rely on herd immunity as a protective factor: anti backers are decimating herd immunity.

The pushback would be massive if you blocked one in four adults from the NHS and travel. You would possbily see an insurgency or open rebellion in some areas.

Same. My brother had Whooping Cough so badly that my mother thought he might die.

When my youngest son was admitted to Kings College Hospital as a baby for an infection, the first question they asked us was whether his immunisations all up to date? I was very relieved that they were, and so were they.

Every country has differing vaccine schedules so this blind hatred of "anti vaxxers" is a bit ridiculous. My child was born in London and received the bcg vaccine, then we moved back to Ireland where that wasn't the standard. Are the irish authorities anti vaxx? Then we moved to the US and my child received several vaccines that aren't on the schedule in the UK or Ireland, such as the chicken pox one and had to take extra ones of some she already had due to differing formulations. Does the fact that the UK doesn't vaccinate against chicken pox as standard make them science deniers? Anyway, now I'm an "anti vaxxer" and derided because I chose not to get any covid shot despite the fact that I'm clearly not due to all the aforementioned shots my kid has received. Make it make sense

Having the Covid jab nearly killed me. In hospital for 4 month.

Any actual evidence of this! Or just what you heard from someone who heard it from someone

A lot of anti vaxxers are doctors

Wait till Polio re-emerges. The anti vaxxers are going cause real suffering as they are already managing in the US

Seems to be a generational thing. My mum spent months in a sanatorium with TB. She was treated with antibiotics - which hadn't long been invented. The very first TB patient to get them was George Orwell but the disease was too far advanced alas. My mother's first sweetheart died of TB , he was 21 I think. It was a death sentence back then. So as you can imagine she and our dad were big supporters of vaccination.
But it's a long time since people in Europe died of measles or TB so maybe we've just got blasé about it. We may be in for a nasty reminder.

I had my first baby just after the Wakefield scandal first started. So many people were utterly convinced by it. MN was a hotbed of antivaxxers and conspiracy theorists lobbying against parents who were continuing to vaccinate.

I am heartened by this thread that there appear to now be so few with that mindset here.

It's disgusting to put yours and other people's children at risk of dying from preventable illnesses because you're too stupid to vaccinate them. It's child neglect.

Exactly this. I am old enough to remember what was possibly the last large scale polio outbreak in the UK, and how terrified our parents were, I can also remember that luckily the polio vaccine, which was not at that time routinely offered, was rushed into production and distribution, and probably saved thousands of lives and countless more from devastating lifelong illness and disability.

Polio, smallpox, TB ( before they stopped making the vaccine widely available), diphtheria, all killer diseases that have largely been eliminated in the Western world because of vaccination. Smallpox is now thought to be extinct as a disease, though the virus is still held by many countries.

But because some deranged man with an issue and an agenda spouted lies about measles which have since been indisputably proved to be deliberate falsehoods we are now seeing a killer disease that can cause blindness, brain damage or death creepback into our lives.

Google images of severe measles infections. It is a sobering experience. Personally I would not want to be reliant on the herd immunity effect protecting my child, I would rather have the assurance that as a parent I had taken control of my child’s present and future health.

They are if they cause diseases to spread unnecessarily and put vulnerable people at risk.

In the uk we have NICE who are not for profit and critical analysis of multiple papers are taken on board before any medication passes for use. Might be different in other countries but in the UK we have robust checks and transparency (I had to read such papers for my post grad - they are hugely detailed with evidence and full details of the research which is then scrutinised).

People certainly give a shit if, for example, their small babies catch measles off unvaccinated idiots and are left with lifelong disabilities.

In our hospital the doctors were at the front of the queue for the Covid vaccine whenIt was first released. It was fascinating and reassured me to have mine. I’ve yet to meet a doctor who’s an anti-vaxer in my whole trust.

What harm do you imagine a measles vaccine will do to your bodies as compared with the harm a measles virus will do to them?

Oh dear lord 😩

To add, if I had a newborn now I absolutely would reconsider just blindly taking every vaccination that is offered at such a young age, especially here in the US, there are so so many at such a young age. This is 100% because of the covid vaccine fiasco.

One of my child's friends from kindergarten years ago was an og non vax kid, and no one cared. This is because his uncle was left severely disabled by one, to the point where the family received millions in compensation from the US government as it was acknowledged that this was the cause. I used to think the mom was slightly kooky for this but not anymore. Her brother passed away a few years ago before the age of 40 after never living an independent life.