To be happy that Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana are founding a new party.

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We need someone with backbone to put forward an alternative political viewpoint.

He’s Terrorist supporting scum and so is she.

They will be courting extreme left wing and the Muslim vote.

People will start to work harder when they get hungry enough. Win win

Until FPTP is ditched it will forever be Red or Blue in charge. That is the reality, so splinter group parties will never see a sniff of power on their own.

I can see a Reform/Con coalition happening if it means power for them.

Satire is not dead I see.

I think people underestimate just how popular Jeremy’s ideas were. The “oh Jeremy Corbyn” chants and feelings of hope and determination to improve things are I think very attractive in the depressing political landscape we have now.

God this thread is hilarious.

Of course ordinary people didn't suffer at all in Soviet Russia or Communist China!

Oh, silly me I keep forgetting, that's because they didn't do communism properly! 🤦‍♀️

Well I certainly won't be voting for them! (Jeremy and Zarah.) And as has been said, it will split the vote and REFORM will get in! 😱

I'm not going to bash people who vote for Reform, as people are entitled to their opinions and views, and can vote for whoever they wish ... But I would never vote for them, and have no desire to see them in power!

I don't think this new party will take off to be honest. We'll see I guess.......

I'm sure it's been said already but I'm unsure how splitting the left/center left vote even more is going to help things.

Great - the process of wrecking public services and diverting more public money to their rich mates can continue...

The left/centre vote is gradually being alienated by Labour's own behaviour. I am left wing and have been prevaricating about voting Labour for well over a decade. Finally gave up caring before the last election.

None of that to say I'd automatically vote for a new left-wing party but it's naive to worry about this new party being the tipping point when there is at least a decade of actual Labour policy that has been causing the problem.

And would agree with that sentiment. Not being a fan of this new “party” doesn’t make me a Reform supporter.

If we had a GE tonorrow, this would be the first time in my life that I would just spoil my vote.

I think maybe the (naive) thinking might be that 'traditional' labour voters who disagree with the direction of the current labour government will be able to vote for a party that aligns with their traditional beliefs. In practice I don't think it will work and should they have any success at all, it won't be enough to win anything, but might be enough to give Reform the chance of a win.

Agreed. I had high hopes for all those things, though I haven't given up hope that Labour can still pull some of it off.
A government needs to have a policy on overseas matters but individual MPs who's entire focus is not their own constituency nor even their own country are not doing the job they are elected for.

Broadly I agree with that, but I think unless they kill puppies on live tv, Reform are in with a good chance next election regardless. I hate that we've come to this but we've had poor government and poor opposition for years now - with no real engagement with issues, only media-compliant soundbites - and it's created the space for a shit party of reactionary disruptors to capitalise on that. Reform has no chops at all, they will be literally unable to govern because they don't know how, but honestly I don't think Jeremy Corbyn is going to garner quite enough support to allow Labour in its current form to do anything about that. They are toast.

I think the scariest thing about this is that killing puppies wouldn't make a jot of difference to their success. Genuinely. Someone would surmise that the puppies were taking their jobs and therefore a necessary sacrifice anyway.

You could well be right 😩

(Realised there's an important bad wording: where I say "to allow Labour" I meant "to prevent Labour... from doing", sorry I am a pedant.)

I'm genuinely worried about 2029. I don't know how I could live happily in a country governed by Reform. I'd be off at the first opportunity if my circumstances allowed but unfortunately they don't.

Same

How many followers does Sarah have with young people? Nigel has over a million of 16-17 year olds on Tiktok.

Pleased they have left Labour Party. I’m in an old labour town and people are going to vote Reform. They already run the local council.

More MP's will follow them. There won't just b the 2 of them. Possibly Diane Abbott, John McDonnell maybe Long Bailey.

I know several. At the Reform meetings quite a few young males go and they are very vocal too.

I voted YABU but actually it is a good thing because it'll absolutely f**k Labour, splitting their vote which means neither of them get in. Result!!!!

Slightly tongue in cheek because I think they're all hopeless, I just have a particular loathing for Labour and also for Corbyn.

All the ageing loons then. How incredibly appealing that will be. I give this six months before it’s a distant memory.