Lily Allen ‘can’t remember’ how many abortions she’s had

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Article in the Fail today about this.
I am pro choice but it did make me a bit uncomfortable. After a while a string of abortions - too many to remember - would surely leave its mark physically and emotionally not mention the cost on the NHS.
Everyone should have a choice but is there not an element of personal responsibility to just take precautions after the first few times?!

I totally agree that people should have the choice to have an abortion if they need to but there comes a point when you realise you need to be more careful. A mistake can happen of course but surely there’s a limit? It’s should not be used as contraception. To have lost count of how many you’ve had just sounds awful to me, I don’t really care what anyone says that’s disgusting.

We live in a society. I’m not a hermit. What others do often impacts me either directly or indirectly. ‘Living my life’ and how I am able to live that life is impacted by everyone else. Same for everyone who isn’t a recluse.

How do LA's abortions impact you exactly?

Her talking about it publicly still does not make it any of your business.

Will you also be asking people how many cigarettes or bags of crisps they had?

What a strange post.

It's a realistic reply.
Let's face it, she came here to start a bitchfest.

BS

In this case it appears to be bitching and judgement of something that doesn't affect her.

I’m assuming with so many abortions you are also putting yourself at risk of STIs which can seriously damage your health.

I love how people are so quick to judge the OP for putting forward this Thread, but HOW DARE WE JUDGE lily Allen. For goodness sake, its definitely a reasonable topic to debate. OP, I do agree with you. I'm pro choice, but let's be real, we have to take some responsibility for our actions. The men should too. We should also remember that abortions are a terminations of life. As much as I am pro choice, it isn't something that should be used frivolously.

Direct quote from article talking about her interview:
"Lily Allen says she "can't remember" how many abortions she's had.
On an episode of her podcast "Miss Me?", the British singer, 40, shared that she used to "get pregnant all the time" and noted that she's had several abortions.
Abortions, I've had a few. But then again, I can't remember exactly how many...I think maybe like, I want to say four or five," Allen said as her co-host Miquita Oliver added that she's also had "about five."
As she recalled one of her experiences, Allen said, "I remember once getting pregnant and the man paying for my abortion, and me thinking it was so romantic."

So, she doesn't REALLY remember how many she had, but she got pregnant "all the time". Sounds like her birth control method was "get an abortion". Sure, her choice, but I can sure judge her on it and find her despicable. She sounds like she is many french fries short a Happy Meal. So surprising.

Interesting. Thank you for your well thought out, informative response. I assume you are one of the recluses I mention.

Why should there be a limit? Her abortions do not affect anyone else whatsoever.

I’m not one of the nosy parkers that you seem to identify with. What a well-rounded happy Group they are enjoy your membership

Ultimately, I would rather any woman have 10 abortions than 10 children she isn't prepared to parent.
To me, that is all there is to it.

Who cares whether she had one or seven? She was pregnant and didn’t want to be. So she accessed legal healthcare and had a termination.

Abortions aren’t all ‘sad’. Many are a welcome relief.

Early medical terminations are not a big deal, for heaven’s sake.

It’s not ‘dead babies’ it’s a bundle of cells that potentially could become a baby. Terminating the pregnancy ends that potential. That’s all.

@Beeloux I'll do the maths for you.

In the UK, about half of women seeking abortions report that their contraception method failed, according to the BPAS. This means that nearly half of women undergoing abortions in the UK were using contraception at the time they became pregnant. Specifically, a study of women having abortions at BPAS clinics found that over half (51.2%) were using some form of contraception.

When that is broken down 17% comes from the pill, 38% condoms, 2% IUD, 1% implant 3% cap/diaphragm, 2% hormone injection, 1% sterilisation/vasectomy, 1% natural family planning, 1% MAP - the remaining ~% declined to answer.

251,377 is the total number of abortions in the UK in 2022 - that means approximately 12,568 women in the UK had an abortion that year whilst on long term birth control. (injection/iud/implant)

It simply isn't that rare and shocking that it could happen to people multiple times

I don't really understand how people tink that if abortion is ever appropriate, it's always appropriate. Unless they have made an a priori desision that terminating a fetus has no moral weight, but even there surely people understand that many people think it has significant moral weight? As does the law, actually.

Anyway - the stories that really bother me about abortion tend to be the older ones, about people like Marilyn Munro, or some of Leonard Cohen's girlfriends, who has many many abortions as reliable birth control wasn't particularly available and the men involved seemed uninterested in using condoms. And there was apparently no qualms about simply having an abortion every time there was a pregnancy up until many of the women suffered serious consequences like loss of fertility. Not only did there seem to be no import to the human life being extinguished, the woman's well being seemed distinctly secondary to easy sexual access for the man.

It always seems in these stories that women were very much put upon my male sexual selfishness. But now that women seem to think, at least, that they have more agency in these things, I suppose it isn't a shock that some women might behave with the same lack of care, they are after all just as capable of selfishness as men.

She just spews out shite. I'm sure she lies and says things that she thinks make her sound like a nonchalant cool girl.

I don't care how many abortions someone has. I'd rather someone had 100s than brought an unwanted baby into the world. But to pretend that it isnt an emotionally taxing experience for most women is silly. And most of us in the real world have jobs and lives that wouldn't fit in numerous abortions. Using up your A/L on this instead of finding a contraceptive method/s that work for you is just dumb.

If you live your life away from society then you haven’t got a clue what is BS or not. If you live a life that involves others daily as the vast majority of us do, then how society acts / policies put in place /how people in power or of influence who are given public air time act, affects us all.

Just to clarify: no. I am not in favour of euthanising old people.

But I don't believe embryos or foetuses are people- that should be clear by now- and the law backs me. I am also absolutely in favour of the recent decriminalising of abortion.

Exactly.
Nobody should judge her actions which don't actually affect them one bit.

The key words there are ‘around 4 or 5’.

My point was that OP made it sound like Lily had had dozens or something when she said she should have considered things after the ‘first few times’.

I’ve not had an abortion so can’t comment on what’s too many.

How do LAs abortions affect you exactly? Specifically, not just a vague 'everything affects everything'.