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Two Tier’s days are numbered

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Jennps · 02/07/2025 06:37

Starmer will be gone by this time next year.

This government is imploding right before our eyes, despite a huge (but shallow) majority. People didn’t vote for Labour, as much as they voted against the diabolical Tories in the last election.

Coupled with that, the calibre of MPs in general, but especially the new Labour MPs is shockingly low. These are people who have never had real jobs, and found themselves accidentally in charge of the country. Most them would struggle to use a calculator, let alone understand how the economy works.

Bond markets are already punishing ‘Rachel from accounts’. Cue the insults about misogyny despite the fact that calling her from accounts is an insult to those who actually work in accounts. Gilts are already above when Truss was in charge, meaning the situation is worse. Crazy tax hikes are on the way. Top rate taxpayers are leaving the country in droves.

Boat crossings are at a record high. Unemployment is up, inflation is on the increase. The country is at very real risk of recession.

If Starmer falls, his replacement candidates are terrifying. It’s possible the government could fall within 2 years or so. The chances of Reform getting into power will increase many fold if there is a snap election in that timeframe.

Wonder if the economically illiterate, constantly wanting to constantly shake the magic money tree, are ready for Reform.

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EasternStandard · 04/07/2025 08:12

FullOfLemons · 03/07/2025 17:43

This quotes the OBR number of 9.5 billion of spending they were unaware of ( but known to the treasury and presumably Mr Hunt).

In the context of almost 1.3 trillion of public spending it is quite a stretch to call that a black hole.

So unlike Rachel to be less than truthful

Given how much this has been relied upon by Labour it really is a farce.

Sabire9 · 04/07/2025 08:19

Labour will lose at the next election, partly as the result of a concerted propaganda effort by the right wing print media, and shadowy international forces working on spreading right wing misinformation on social media, and partly as a result of 4 years being not nearly enough time to address the fallout of 14 years of Conservative mismanagement of the economy and the public sector. There will be an unusually high level of participation by working class voters in the next election, who will vote Reform in hope of mass deportations and the stripping of all rights, including human rights, for asylum seekers.

We'll end up with a Conservative/Reform coalition, and they'll believe they have a mandate for the sort of cruel immigration and social policies we're now seeing over the pond. There will be a huge push to deregulate pretty much everything and the trashing of all climate change policies.

And the only people who'll emerge from this unscathed will be very wealthy people who don't use the NHS or state schools, or live in the vicinity of those who'll be impacted by austerity cuts.

I live in London. Would love it if London declared itself a separate country and kept all its money for itself. Then all the Reform/Tory voters could sit out in the provinces and continue to blame their shit quality of life on immigrants and benefit claimants.

L1ghyn1ngBug · 04/07/2025 08:25

Fringle · 03/07/2025 21:34

Of course Starmer’s - or another Labour PM’s - government isn’t going to fall before a General Election. The whole idea’s ridiculous.

What will happen is that this utterly useless nasal-voiced twat PM and his utterly useless Chancellor will both be gone in 18 months, from panicky re-shuffle and party unrest.

Then we’ll have Rayner and McFadden until the next General Election. When Labour will lose catastrophically.

FWIW, I don’t think Reform will do very well. The Tories will be back in.

Not under Kemi Badenock they won’t. One wonders who is left to lead or what policies they’d win on. I see neither, just a disastrous history people won’t forget.

4 years is a long time in politics .

Fringle · 04/07/2025 08:28

Labour will lose at the next election, partly as the result of a concerted propaganda effort by the right wing print media, and shadowy international forces working on spreading right wing misinformation on social media…

That’s priceless.

Bluebellwood129 · 04/07/2025 09:31

Fringle · 04/07/2025 08:28

Labour will lose at the next election, partly as the result of a concerted propaganda effort by the right wing print media, and shadowy international forces working on spreading right wing misinformation on social media…

That’s priceless.

The first part of that statement is correct at least, just delete everything after the comma.

Sabire9 · 04/07/2025 09:56

@Fringle

The Conservatives won 4 general elections in a row from 2010 onwards, despite instituting policies such as BREXIT and austerity that damaged economic growth, increased health and income inequality, contributed to a growing housing crisis that's trashed the finances of local authorities, overseen a huge decrease in public satisfaction with the NHS, and actually shortened the lives of vast numbers of vulnerable people via austerity policies under Cameron that according to the Lancet and the BMJ, may have resulted in 300,000 excess deaths between 2011 and 2019.

All while being cheered on by the Conservative media. They never faced a 10th of the criticism that Labour have had over the past year.

If you really want to argue that this Labour government is vastly worse than the Conservative governments that won 4 general elections in a row while living standards fell in the UK and wages stagnated, you're going to have to explain why it's ok when this happens under the Conservatives, but an unending disaster if it happens under Labour.

Quirkswork · 04/07/2025 16:47

Fringle · 04/07/2025 08:28

Labour will lose at the next election, partly as the result of a concerted propaganda effort by the right wing print media, and shadowy international forces working on spreading right wing misinformation on social media…

That’s priceless.

I know. Not really worth the effort to reply.

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