Two Tier’s days are numbered

[Jennps]

Starmer will be gone by this time next year.

This government is imploding right before our eyes, despite a huge (but shallow) majority. People didn’t vote for Labour, as much as they voted against the diabolical Tories in the last election.

Coupled with that, the calibre of MPs in general, but especially the new Labour MPs is shockingly low. These are people who have never had real jobs, and found themselves accidentally in charge of the country. Most them would struggle to use a calculator, let alone understand how the economy works.

Bond markets are already punishing ‘Rachel from accounts’. Cue the insults about misogyny despite the fact that calling her from accounts is an insult to those who actually work in accounts. Gilts are already above when Truss was in charge, meaning the situation is worse. Crazy tax hikes are on the way. Top rate taxpayers are leaving the country in droves.

Boat crossings are at a record high. Unemployment is up, inflation is on the increase. The country is at very real risk of recession.

If Starmer falls, his replacement candidates are terrifying. It’s possible the government could fall within 2 years or so. The chances of Reform getting into power will increase many fold if there is a snap election in that timeframe.

Wonder if the economically illiterate, constantly wanting to constantly shake the magic money tree, are ready for Reform.

Well you could.stop it or at least reduce it if you actually enforced the border like any other country does. Eg with guards. The hero of (some) on this thread who love mince says it would be very easy to actually physically stop the boats from crossing. It can't be right that if you set off in a boat from France you get waived in to the UK if your boat isn't up to scratch.

Is Raynor some kind of nickname, or just a misspelling? Loads of anti-Labour posters seem to do it so I’m not sure.

(It’s not exclusive to you, your post is just the latest to do so.)

It’s pretty constant. I bet it drives her mad.

Are you really asking that when they Tories are assigned loads of nicknames? When they were in power, the threads were never ending and they were far from respectful.

We haven’t managed to completely stop illegal migration in all of this nation’s history! And I don’t think many countries actually manage to completely stop it either, though hard to compare given the intricacies of policy and geography.

i assume you’re referring to Dominic Cummings, though I’m not sure he’s anyone’s hero. Well, perhaps his own. What does he know about border security?

Nobody gets waved in, and absolutely nobody gets waived in. Everyone who arrives on a small boat is detained.

No, I’m specifically asking if Raynor is a nickname, or a misspelling. I thought I was very clear.

I think it's just a misspelling, is that really what you consider to be the most salient issue here?

Well that's obviously not true. How do you know that all the illegal small boats are detained.

If we were at war how would we/did we defend ourselves from invasion from the Channel out of interest? If we've already given up that's not great.

She is not important enough to me to care. Does that clear things up for you?

Spelling with an o not e is the least of Labour’s problems.

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So DC said the following.....

Operationally, it’s obviously simple to stop the boats. You can deploy the Navy, you can stop the boats.

“The entire problem is legal and constitutional. It’s the interaction of how the European Convention on Human Rights and the Human Rights Act and judicial review system works.

“There is complete agreement between specialists who studied this subject that it is not possible for the British Prime Minister now to deploy the Navy and do the things that you need to do in order to stop the boats. The courts will declare it unlawful because of the Human Rights Act.

“So you have to repeal the Human Rights Act. You have to state that you are withdrawing from the jurisdiction of the Strasbourg Court [the ECHR], you deploy the Navy and stop the boats and you say nobody is landing from these boats. Everyone we pick up will be dropped on an island somewhere.

“No one will be coming to mainland Britain. The boats will be destroyed and the people organising the boats are going to be put on a list for UK special forces to kill or capture the way that we do with various terrorist organisations.”

As soon as you announce that is your policy and take serious steps to do it, the boats stop straight away because the people doing this are not ideological terrorists who want to die and get into a fight about this,” he continues.

“They’re there to make money. So as soon as they realise, oh, an island nation is actually just going to stop these stupid boats, they’re obviously going to send the people somewhere else.”

What do you think, everyone?

Fair. But it is irritating to see the wrong spelling of a public figure’s name who’s then attacked. If they’re that prominent and important get the name right.

Nothing like sweating the small stuff.

You can literally read up on this stuff online. That’s how I know. For example: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czjekx34d70o

I’m not familiar with defence policy I’m afraid, but I don’t think the policy is ‘we’ve already given up’. I mean, I hope not, as I live on the coast.

Chill out Dangerpoo, just asking.

Yes it would work whether people will vote for it is the hurdle. Whether the French vote it in first or UK is another factor.

See my post above re what DC thinks would work.

No, I was just curious, I didn’t realise I needed your permission.

I have no idea what DC thinks would work, and no belief that anything he thinks would work.

ETA: I’ve read your post and I stand by the second half of my statement above. That rubbish reads like an A level debate. Migration is a global issue, repealing domestic law creates international legal problems that are far greater than small boats. Yes, it’s a problem, yes, it needs a solution but dear old Dom is thinks the solution to anything is to turn and walk away. Look how fantastically that turned out with Brexit.

You’ve acknowledged that you don’t know the first thing about the immigration system and yet you think that what he says would work. The malevolent leading the blind.

I think the part about kill is rather extreme - and quite revealing

It was just in a few posts up. Have a look.

Oh I see your edit. What wouldn't work in his post? It's probably going to happen at some point. Labour haven't come up with any solutions so far. In fact the crossings are increasing.

Well, yes. Presumably the aim is to shock the people smugglers into stopping the dangerous crossings that cost the lives of many each year. I don't know.

I’m not sure what your point is? I don’t think you are either.

You don’t know? Yes you do.

i don’t know how you vote, but I cannot think of a mainstream party this extreme