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to think that whoever let my dog out last night/early this morning is v cruel and evil person who has obv never had pets or children?

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micci25 · 25/05/2008 09:44

was laying bed when i heard my dog barking at the front of the house. when she should be safely locked up in the back yard. went to look out the back window and the back gate was wide open dog no where to be seen!

the back gate is usually locked, i dont know why it wasnt last night but i cant even remember who opened it last so cant blame anyone for that.

cue me getting up immediatley and searching streets for dog. luckily she had come back of her own accord and was waiting at the back gate while i was looking round the front for her !

dp thinks that this is forgivable as who ever let her out probably did because they were sick of her barking. i think that if this is the casae they should have to come to me to complain and not just let my family out!

the dog does bark but only when she hears noises. although this noise can be just a car and usually is. on a weekend her barking is worse because she can hear people coming home in taxis and drunks walking past.

but if she is barking for more than a couple of minutes at a time i will go and see what she is barking at which stops her.

we live oppposite a bus depo and two very busy roads so there is every chance that the dog could have been run over, she is a terrier so it is her nature to hunt and kill, she could very easily have gotten hold of some ones pet bunny, guniea pig, chickens, kitten (she is scared of cats i have two and the bully her but could easily kill a kitten), for all who ever let out knows she could be a biting dog and could have got hold of a child, also who ever did do it must live in my street as we have alley gates so they would also know that i have a four year old dd who would be gutted if her dog was hurt.

am absolutely livid that some one would be so inconsiderate dp still seems to think this acceptable (but admits it is wrong he is just not annoyed by it) as the dog could have woke them up

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lucykate · 25/05/2008 11:30

micci, it doesn't matter whether the dog is barking all night every night or not, one single bark is enough to wake your neighbours and/or their children

quote from your op, "am absolutely livid that someone would be so inconsiderate", maybe your neighbours feel that way about you and your dog?

Alambil · 25/05/2008 11:31

You've admitted that it isn't just once or twice a week though - your story is changing with each post.

I'm sorry but dogs don't automatically know to ask to be let out - they are trained to do that.

I really think you need to rehome this dog to someone who is prepared to go back to basics and take it to proper training classes. A dog trainer will help you with the toiletting too.

SoupDragon · 25/05/2008 11:32

"a dog that barks maybe once or twice a week"

As someone else has pointed out, you need to make your mind up about how much the dog barks.

SoupDragon · 25/05/2008 11:33

The person who is really at fault is whoever left the gate unlocked.

If the dog wasn't barking, it could have been drunken teens who didn't know there was a dog there mucking about opening gates. I know I did silly things when young and drunk and thought them hilarious.

VacantlyPretty · 25/05/2008 11:41

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micci25 · 25/05/2008 11:45

i havent admitted that it is more than that i said that she barks at noises, which she does and that the problem is worse on a weekend, which it is, but i dont think that i have said anywhere that she barks constantly or every night, it might have just seemed like that because i said she barks at the buses and we live opposite a bus depo i should have mentioned that she does not bark at every bus, just when she can hear the drivers talking or when they are outside with the engines running a long time.

her barking is mainly at a weekend but not limited to a weekend she does bark every time next door brings in his car, but she is not out every time he does this, so even that is not every night!

no i dont think it could have just been drunken teens as we have alley gates which were locked so who ever did it must live in our street.

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SoupDragon · 25/05/2008 11:46

Whoever did it though, the main fault is with whoever failed to secure your dog by locking the gate.

KerryMum · 25/05/2008 11:48

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VacantlyPretty · 25/05/2008 11:48

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hercules1 · 25/05/2008 11:49

Perhaps as the door wasnt locked it wasnt shut properly either so that it only took the dog pushing against it to open it.

However tbh who opened the door isnt the issue here anyway.

Alambil · 25/05/2008 11:52

But buses are left to idle with engines running a LOT. Bus drivers talk A LOT... what is complicated about that?

I think you don't hear your dog - you've tuned it out, much like a parent tunes out the 40th "but whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy" from their 2 yr old!

You need to train the dog - THAT is the issue here.

If you won't / can't do it then get rid of the dog - it's really that simple. It isn't fair on the dog or your neighbours to not deal with it's issues

MrsCarrot · 25/05/2008 11:53

It doesn't matter whether you say only at a bus, only for a minute, only at a drunk person who is already operating at a more irritating decibel, in your opinion...

everybody here says it would drive them mad, it is certain to be driving your neighbours mad therefore they are probably not cruel and evil people without pets or children they just have a neighbour from hell, in their opinion.

You don't sound like the kind of person who would respond well to a neighbour approaching you about your dog, even though you said 'I am a not a violent person'.

WanderingTrolley · 25/05/2008 11:54

You sound like the sort of person who demands rights and respect, without granting the same to others nor taking responsibility.

You are repeatedly making excuses for the dog's barking, hinting at the bus drivers daring to speak to each other is the cause and therefore not your fault or responsibility.

KerryMum and VacantlyPretty are right - you're not getting it and you're in denial.

Nobody is that mad.

Fess up, you trolly trolly troll!

micci25 · 25/05/2008 11:55

i have never said that i am annoyed that people are disturbed by her barking, i have said that i will deal with this if they are. and that i will get dp to ask them since he knows them i dont.

but if that was the case they could have come to talk to me (or dp since they know him), called the council, the rspca, or police. this would not have upset me, i would have simply tackled the issue! i only mentioned the barking because that is what dp thinks that it could have been!

i have got a letter from the council about dogs fouling in the back alley and rang up to explain that my dog was not allowed in the back alley alone as she is small enough to fit under peoples gates and they explianed the letter was not aimed at me every one in my street got one, but i was not upset at who ever called the council in the first place

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luminarphrases · 25/05/2008 11:56

dog barkings the worst when you're a light sleeper as well, because there is no regularity to it. i can sleep right through the trains now, but a yippy dog in the garden- no chance

VacantlyPretty · 25/05/2008 11:58

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hercules1 · 25/05/2008 11:58

This is a wind up. COme on - lives next to a bus depot but only barks when the bus engines are running or the drivers are talking, tried dog training classes but the dog was too aggressive! A sunday morning wind up!

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 25/05/2008 11:58

I'd have let it out if it lived near me.

VacantlyPretty · 25/05/2008 11:58

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Chequers · 25/05/2008 12:01

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Alambil · 25/05/2008 12:03

But... why not deal with it if it's an issue or not with the neighbours??!

A dog barking that much at things outside the house (or even in the house) has an unstable pack mentality - it believes it's the top dog and can control the pack.

I'll bet your dog jumps up on the furniture or on your laps too. Again - it believes the furniture is it's own property and it can control who dares to sit on it.

I'll bet your dog pulls when it walks or possibly doesn't come back on first call when off the lead. I'll also bet that the dog is the first out the door when you're off on a walk and is the first back in too. Your dog believes it's the top dog therefore it goes out first, does as it pleases and then comes back first. Only the Alpha leaves the den in the wild first and comes back in first.

Regardless of whether the neighbours are pissed off or not, your dog needs training.

If you don't train it correctly and properly and fully, it WILL end up biting you or your children one day. It will - no doubt about it; your kids'll do something it thinks it shouldn't be doing right now... like trying to get the dog off the settee or suchlike. The dog will snap at them as it would to a pack challenger in the den.

You need to get a dog behaviourist and obedience training post haste - regardless of the neighbours.

Chequers · 25/05/2008 12:03

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Chequers · 25/05/2008 12:05

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GoodGollyMissMolly · 25/05/2008 12:06

Micci, why wait to deal with the barking until someone asks you to, you should do in ANYWAY as a responsible dog owner.

YABU, your DH says it is unreasonable, everyone on here has said it is unreasonable. Grow up and listen to what people are telling you and deal with the problem of your barking dog.

Tonightsthenight · 25/05/2008 12:08

Are you thick or something? Can you not tell that a dog barking is annoying without someone making a point of telling you? Sheesh.

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