to think that whoever let my dog out last night/early this morning is v cruel and evil person who has obv never had pets or children?

[micci25]

was laying bed when i heard my dog barking at the front of the house. when she should be safely locked up in the back yard. went to look out the back window and the back gate was wide open dog no where to be seen!

the back gate is usually locked, i dont know why it wasnt last night but i cant even remember who opened it last so cant blame anyone for that.

cue me getting up immediatley and searching streets for dog. luckily she had come back of her own accord and was waiting at the back gate while i was looking round the front for her !

dp thinks that this is forgivable as who ever let her out probably did because they were sick of her barking. i think that if this is the casae they should have to come to me to complain and not just let my family out!

the dog does bark but only when she hears noises. although this noise can be just a car and usually is. on a weekend her barking is worse because she can hear people coming home in taxis and drunks walking past.

but if she is barking for more than a couple of minutes at a time i will go and see what she is barking at which stops her.

we live oppposite a bus depo and two very busy roads so there is every chance that the dog could have been run over, she is a terrier so it is her nature to hunt and kill, she could very easily have gotten hold of some ones pet bunny, guniea pig, chickens, kitten (she is scared of cats i have two and the bully her but could easily kill a kitten), for all who ever let out knows she could be a biting dog and could have got hold of a child, also who ever did do it must live in my street as we have alley gates so they would also know that i have a four year old dd who would be gutted if her dog was hurt.

am absolutely livid that some one would be so inconsiderate dp still seems to think this acceptable (but admits it is wrong he is just not annoyed by it) as the dog could have woke them up

micca - how many walks and for how long a day does she get? How much stimulation does she get in the day?

I have sympathy with your neighbours, we had neighbours who left their alsation out- he barked non stop all day. I'm against dogs being left outside in general as well, they're sociable animals and personaly i find it cruel when they're left outside, speaking as an owner of a 3 yr old weimaraner your dog should be housetrained by now.

However having said that: Theese people should definatly have complained to you, banged loudly on your door and demanded you stopped the barking. NOT (if you are sure this happened) let your dog out. Realisticaly the dog could have been killed on the road, which would have been a tad ott after all it isn't the dogs fault she is outside.
If this has been happening alot tho, and it sounds like it has, people can be driven to desperate lengths for unbroken sleep!

Blimey! My dog is a house dog and barks at night when cats or foxes are in the garden and I worry about my neighbours hearing her...you are very inconsiderate and need to sort your dog out post haste! Put her in a crate in your kitchen overnight, and get her and you trained!

Dog nappies are not the solution in the long term. She needs training and / or a vet.

Oh i second a crate. Dogs rarely mess there own beds and it's a fab toilet training aid. It will take work to get her used to it,a and she will prob bark in it, but perhaps you should write to your neighours and explain that you realize there is a problem and you are going to start trying to sort it BUT there may be noise inside while you do.
As soon as the dog realizes it's her bed for the night and spends time in it, she'll be very reluctant to soil it as they hate sleeping in smelly wet things, well wouldn't you?

I've only read op and I'm having trouble believing this is a true story.

Your dog is out all night and barks at all noises, sometimes for minutes on end?

Has no one complained before? Do your neighbours all talk to you?

she is walked once a day for about half an hour sometimes an hour during the summer months she is walked for hours at a time!

she has been to the vets but not about her bladder i had never considered that it could be medical i just thought that it was training! i have house trained other puppies before but she just doesnt seem to get it!but i will look into it maybe being medical!

i have already said that professional training is something that i will be doing with her.

dd1 loves her and is contsantly playing with her so she gets loads of stimulation during the day.

no serendippity it has only happened once. and who ever said that they could have drilled the back door shut so the dog couldnt go out, it was the gate to the alley they drilled shut not my door to my yard.

I cant quite bring myself to share your and your dp's joke about using nappies for dogs rather than just simply taking your dog to the vets like a pet owner should.

I am being to think this is a wind up thread.
Saying you have always said you will get training for her - how on earth have you got to 3 years without having done this. I will leave this thread now as I think in a moment we will be laughing about what a great wind up it was and I am getting cross with you for nothing!

I just cannot believe this.

Your Dog sounds extremely unhappy and I think you need to be responsible and get her checked my a vet. Hopefully this thread has been a wake-up call for you.

We got a 5 month old puppy from an animal sanctuary and she took ages to house train. She knew that she shouldn't go inside so always did it when no one was around/looking. It seemed that, because in the sanctuary and prior to that in a dog pound, she obviously just went wherever she wanted, she had never learnt to ask to go out. I was advised by a dog trainer to take her back to the beginning again - to put her on a lead when inside the house and take her everywhere with me. To let her out frequently and she would soon get the message that she should go outside and not inside. She is now 1 year old and we haven't had any problems of that nature for about 3 months. It does take time.

Another suggestion was to get some bells and hang them from the back door. You then smear them with butter. When the dog licks the bells to get the butter, they tinkle and you immediately open the door. The dog learns that making a noise (whether it's the bells or barking - and your dog already seems to be pretty good at that ) means the door gets opened and she can go out.

Seriously, I don't understand people who get dogs and then leave them outside most of the time where they bark - because of loneliness and frustration - all the time. Bring her in, get her a crate and start training her properly. You will all benefit.

I thought she's been barking outside most nights, but only been let out once?
Anyway, don't get me wrong, i really really think to put a dogs life in danger is horrendous and your neighbours were wrong (if it was indeed them) but it is time for you to put a stop to this now. Give the crate some thought and get your dog to the vets pronto.

okay the dog does not bark all night every night and never has done, both neighbours speak to dp as they drink in the same pub as him , one side knows my sisters best friend, the other side is rarely home, but his gf/ex wife, is v friendly to me when she sees me so each side has had ample opportunity to let me know if they had a problem, and i would have dealt with it the best way that i could.

we tried training classes but my dog thinks that she is super hard and tried to attack every one elses dog even though most of them could have swallowed her in one go. i have now found the number of some one who will visit the house to train and will be doing that when we move!

i have never considered that it could be medical or she have been to the vets long ago

i have said that i will think of getting her a large cage for during the night so that she can be kept inside as dp goes to bed v late and i get up v early most days so she wouldnt need to be in it long anyway! i will do this once i check that she is disturbing the nieghbours to the extent that they think she is a problem!

as i dont think that she can be, she disturbs me and dp (and i am a light sleeper myself) about once a week on average, sometimes not at all, twice a week at most, and is always delt with within minutes its not like i leave her out there barking all night long

'it is only dp's opinion'

even your dp thinks her barking is a problem! i would NOT BE HAPPY if you were my neighbour!!

" Civilised people don't wait for people to ask them to behave in a civilised manner. That's why your neighbours haven't complained."

I agree completely with this- i wouldn't come and ask you to get the dog to stop barking, because i would assume you didn't care. i might think about calling the rspca though.

Micca - this really is wind up isnt it?

I dont believe that you would have a dog for 3 years that isnt house trained and I dont believe you would give up on dog training classes because your dog was aggressive.
If your dog is aggressive it needs to be thoroughly socialised and trained for this. Did you get additional help for the aggression? Sounds very much like a nervous dog.

Is it a Jack Russel Terrier you got?

Well, I love dogs and cannot stand the sound of a dog being left to bark. You've had some good advice here which I would try out before someone complains to the police / council or takes matters into their own hands.

Yes, you are being unreasonable.

Train the s*dding dog and keep her in at night.

I am being driven to thoughts of (fantasy) violence towards the hideous yappy rat sized dogs next door. I can't go into my garden without the annoying little runts yapping shrilly at me. All this and I'm a dog lover.

what i am upset about is that whoever did this, if they did it because of her barking, i think it was just a nasty prank by who ever drilled the back door shut, felt that they could not talk to me first about their problem!

and if it was just a nasty prank then i am upset that some one could think that this would be a 'fun' thing to do.

the dog is not left outside constantly and has a warm dry kennel and two cats to keep her company, we have put a cat flap large enough for her to get through into our new house so that she will be able to come in and out as she please although on a night will be limited to being in the passageway and bathroom, as will the cats. i cannot do that here as it is a rented house.

and i did not say that training is something i have always 'thought' about doing it is something that i am constantly workking on with her. what i said was that once we move i would be getting her trained professionally

So what training are you doing with her then? THere are lots of knowledgeable people on mumsnet who could advise you. What have you done about the agression? I am assuming that's been dealt with.

Get a behaviourist. Train the dog in a group setting - find one that deals with issues there and then, not shuts you away or asks you to leave - that is teaching your dog NOTHING other than it's won. You have to take back the role of Alpha which you haven't got at the moment; it isn't difficult to do.

Do you have Freeview/Sky? The BEST dog trainer is Cesar wotsit - the Dog Whisperer. He uses natural techniques and dog psychology to make the pack work as it should. This is the sort of training my mum and her boss (who has 45 yrs experience) do and an Alpha, barking, "hard" top dog can be put in it's place within 5 minutes - usually much less.

Shutting her outside when she's used to being inside in the day is somewhat cruel - it is FAR colder outside than in and kennels are never THAT comfy (obviously totally outside dogs are used to it but in/out is more complex) Also, in the wild, they'd snuggle up together. Last night and recently it's been really cold at night - she may well be cold on her own outside which is making her bark too.

micci, you live opposite a bus depot and the dog barks at busses?! it must be absolutely constantly yapping and i am sure it doesn't wake you any more than the busses do because you are used to it. your poor poor neighbours, it isn't just the people next door who will be suffering, but those in teh next street. (as i know only too well)

i think you should seriously consider rehoming your dog because you can't provide it with proper support.

"the dog does bark but only when she hears noises. although this noise can be just a car and usually is. on a weekend her barking is worse because she can hear people coming home in taxis and drunks walking past."

she "does not bark every night at lot of nights yes"

"yes at weekends it can be bad"

"she barks more in the day tbh!"

she barks at night "just for a few mins maybe once or twice and during week sometimes not at all"

"its probably disturbs us and therefore the neighbours twice a week at the very most" - er, how do you know what disturbs your neighbours? People have different levels of tolerance. You think the dog's barking is ok. Someone thought it ok to let the dog out. If someone doesn't hold your opinion, it doesn't make their pov invalid because you judge it so. See the inconsistency in these quotes?

You knew your dog to be such a pita that you asked your neighbours when it would be best to move in?

And, rather than consider how unpopular or unreasonable you might be (ironic thread title?) you conclude that someone has an unruly teenager or is mentally ill! You have a superiority complex, it would appear.

You are so utterly defensive about this issue, determined you are right when everyone is telling you the barking dog is likely to be a bigger pita than you realise, you have admitted you don't know your neighbours and the woman from the pub bitches about you. Do you think this attitude has been picked up on by your neighbours? Do you think if you had a passive aggressive woman with a barking dog you would think her amenable to a conversation, particularly a woman whose plus point is 'I'm not a violent person' who needs to agree to the reasoning behind the actions of others before she will judge those actions acceptable? You're not painting a good picture here, love.

I don't think it's right to set a barking dog loose, and I think your neighbours should have approached you first. But I can see why they didn't.

yes threeandmore it is! and thanks for the tip on training freckle i will try that one, but dont think i will need to keep her on a lead she is always around my feet or playing with dd1! i know how to puppy train from scratch but other dogs i have trained know how to ask to be out automatically. and i have done this training with her she knows that it is wrong to go in the house, she knows where she is meant to go but cannot hold her bladder and cannot alert any one that she needs to be out.

this one doesnt seem to get it! and of course will be going to a vets!

but seriously would a dog that barks maybe once or twice a week bother everyone that much? there is a dog that lives further up the sreet that barks most nights, if not every night for at least half an hour, at around midnight (i think they must let it to pee before they go to bed) and it doesnt bother me that much!

mine barks for minutes once or twice a week and dp is moody about anything and every thing he doesnt even like the dc's making noise so i thought he was just being his usual whiney self