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AIBU?

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to think that whoever let my dog out last night/early this morning is v cruel and evil person who has obv never had pets or children?

419 replies

micci25 · 25/05/2008 09:44

was laying bed when i heard my dog barking at the front of the house. when she should be safely locked up in the back yard. went to look out the back window and the back gate was wide open dog no where to be seen!

the back gate is usually locked, i dont know why it wasnt last night but i cant even remember who opened it last so cant blame anyone for that.

cue me getting up immediatley and searching streets for dog. luckily she had come back of her own accord and was waiting at the back gate while i was looking round the front for her !

dp thinks that this is forgivable as who ever let her out probably did because they were sick of her barking. i think that if this is the casae they should have to come to me to complain and not just let my family out!

the dog does bark but only when she hears noises. although this noise can be just a car and usually is. on a weekend her barking is worse because she can hear people coming home in taxis and drunks walking past.

but if she is barking for more than a couple of minutes at a time i will go and see what she is barking at which stops her.

we live oppposite a bus depo and two very busy roads so there is every chance that the dog could have been run over, she is a terrier so it is her nature to hunt and kill, she could very easily have gotten hold of some ones pet bunny, guniea pig, chickens, kitten (she is scared of cats i have two and the bully her but could easily kill a kitten), for all who ever let out knows she could be a biting dog and could have got hold of a child, also who ever did do it must live in my street as we have alley gates so they would also know that i have a four year old dd who would be gutted if her dog was hurt.

am absolutely livid that some one would be so inconsiderate dp still seems to think this acceptable (but admits it is wrong he is just not annoyed by it) as the dog could have woke them up

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DirtySexyMummy · 25/05/2008 16:46

Dogs barking day and night
Alleys with bolted gates
'Drunks' roaming the streets
Pubs across the road
Bus depots in a housing estate
Teens running riot in the streets til the early hours
Everyone seems to be related..

Do you live in an episode of Shameless?

BarkyTheDog · 25/05/2008 16:57

ROFL

Get me house-trained Woman

That's what I keep barking at you

micci25 · 25/05/2008 16:59

my dog irritates me during the day with her barking but i stop her by either bringing her from oitside if it is next doors she is barking at or i close the curtains if it is the buses she is barking at. so i dont think that is too bad!

you cannot expect her to never never ever bark!

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hercules1 · 25/05/2008 17:01

Actually it is possible to train her not to bark at buses, not to bark at the neighbours.

hercules1 · 25/05/2008 17:02

Do you leave her outside most of the time?

DirtySexyMummy · 25/05/2008 17:04

She barks constantly during the day. And your neighbour works nights? Seriously love, have some consideration.

My parents neighbours had a dog for 17 years, it very, very, very rarely barked. I'm talking like, once a month. If that. Thats acceptable.

They did this because there dog was well trained, well looked after and well loved. And if you cannot do this, then you are not a suitable dog owner.

zookeeper · 25/05/2008 17:05

YABU - give the dog to somebody who can look after it properly

hercules1 · 25/05/2008 17:06

Your dog sounds incredibly bored, understimulated, poorly trained, nervous and aggressive. Accept you cant cope with it and rehome it for her sake. I mean this in a nice way.

justjules · 25/05/2008 17:13

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

hercules1 · 25/05/2008 17:14

love the bit about handy if you want to catch a bus!

Wisteria · 25/05/2008 17:22

So how do you train a dog to stop barking? I ask because one of my dogs is permanently being told off for it (she is only a puppy at present) and the breed is renowned for barking - I have yet to find a method that works.....all advice gratefully received!!

hercules1 · 25/05/2008 17:23

One way (dont do it if your dog is nervous though as I think the ops probably is) is to squirt water at it.

micci25 · 25/05/2008 17:23

no she inside most of the time she is out out when dp goes to bed at about midnight or later and is brought back in when i get up which is at 6am weekdays and sat and 7:30 - 8am sundays so she is outside that much.

obv she goes out if we see her wagging her tail at the door but the backdoor is left
open for her when it is warm enough so she can come in and out as she pleases.

she is not at all agressive hercules she is in fact a very placid and timid dog, that is what the problem she barks at what she is afraid of, which is a lot of things. that is why we are getting a trainer when we move to help build her confidence we are moving near a park and i would like to be able to take the dog with me and the kids when we go to the park but she is afraid of unknown children so this would be very stressfull for her.

she was banned from training classes for seemingly trying to attack other dogs but i think this may have been fear too as when she at the vets she hides behind me shaking if another dog is too close to her.

she barks at the buses only when the get to close to the house, my front window is directly opposite thier gate and it sometimes feels like the buses are going to drive into the house! it makes me nervous! this is only a problem when there are a lot of buses coming and going so i close the curtains.

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Wisteria · 25/05/2008 17:25

hmm tried that, difficult to get the timing right though....... I always leave the bottle in the wrong place!!
I want her to bark when the door goes but then to stop when I ask her to....am I asking too much I wonder?

Kassius · 25/05/2008 17:25

Overly nervous dogs can be just as dangerous as overly aggressive ones.

hercules1 · 25/05/2008 17:25

Micca - seriously, a nervous dog is very likely to be an aggressive dog. Your dog sounds very much like this. A non aggressive and confidant dog would be fine with other children and other dogs.

Wisteria · 25/05/2008 17:26

micci - she needs socialising with other dogs so she can learn which dogs she is right to be scared of - 3 is not too old.
Find some friendly dogs for her to practise on

DirtySexyMummy · 25/05/2008 17:27

You leave your dog outside from midnight til 6am?

micci25 · 25/05/2008 17:31

thats what i am getting the training for wisteria, i am not a dog trainer and i dont want to stress the dog out too much by not knowing when she is getting too upset by the other dogs. she is okay with my mums dogs but has known them since she was a puppy and was afraid at first but their alpha dog was v good at 'welcoming' her into the pack.

dirty, she has a kenell and outdoor cuboard that has blankets in too and also if the weather is bad she is not outside as she is also fearfull of thunder, strong winds, rain and snow!

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hercules1 · 25/05/2008 17:32

micci - have you had her since a puppy? How much socialising did she get and gets now? How is she when meeting other dogs on walks?

expatinscotland · 25/05/2008 17:32

look, if she was banned from one training class YOU need to find another.

she is your responsibility.

throwing up your hands and making excuses for her behaviour makes YOU a poor dog owner.

you have to own her problems. they are not just hers.

they are yours, too.

that's the commitment you make when you take on a pet.

DirtySexyMummy · 25/05/2008 17:35

You don't need to be a dog trainer. If you honestly can't work out when she is getting upset by something, and you have not managed to get her toilet trained in 3 years, and she is scared of cars/people/buses/rain/wind/children/other animals.. then I seriously think you are not suitable to own a dog.

What kind of terrier is it? If your dog is of that much of a nervous disposition, I would be very concerned for the safety of your DD.

PuppyMonkey · 25/05/2008 17:43

I have no doubt completely missed the point here - but it's been v.windylately. Could the gate have been blown open by the wind?

Chequers · 25/05/2008 17:45

Message withdrawn

micci25 · 25/05/2008 17:49

she is jack russel and she is briiliant with my dc's we are getting a trainer as soon as we move, there is only one training class anywhere near me and i dont drive so i cant go to another one, she knows that she is meant to go outside she just doesnt know how to alert us to the fact that she needs to be out.

i have had since she was about three months old she hasnt had much socialising as she has always been very fearfull (she hid behind my sofa for about 6 hours when i first got her it took me ages to get her to come out) but she has been with my mums two dogs. when she is on the lead she will bark at other dogs when she sees them. this is her way of telling them to stay away. if i pull her closer to me she stops barking, however this is only with one dog at a time, it did not work in the training class.

and she gets upset as soon as she sees another dog, dirty, so socailinsing her without upsetting her would be impossible. that is why i want a trainer to help me do it.

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