I’m probably being a prude but…

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…what is the deal with teenage girls running around basically naked these days?

Last week, I was driving down the road near a secondary school at letting out time and I must have seen about 5 girls’ actual bum cheeks as they were leaving school. Like, we all rolled our skirts up fairly short at school, but this was actually full knickers and bums on display… one girl was wearing a thong so it was just her whole bum on show.

Then, I was on the beach today (we live near the sea) with my two primary school aged sons and there were a group of maybe 13-14 year old girls, they were very young, more than half of whom were in thong bikinis. They spent most of the time on the beach doing a photoshoot, predominantly photos of them from behind looking out to sea, presumably for social media?!

I know teenagers have always been teenagers, but I’m pretty sure underage girls weren’t wearing thong bikinis on the beach when I was that age 😳

I could see other families on the beach felt uncomfortable with it too.

Do their parents know? Is this just how teenagers dress these days?

The last, I don’t know, 20 or so posts have been you and I responding to each other. It’s nonsense to say you haven’t noticed that. And those posts have consistently referred to me guiding, teaching and directing my daughter - on what planet would I be doing that with an adult child.

I have never talked about my child dating, you’ve assumed that because your experience informs everything you’ve read in this thread, with no cognisance that children (not adults) have different needs. That abuse happens in a wide range of contexts, at different ages with huge impact on what children, and adults, may need to support their recovery.

What you need to make sense of what happened to you is completely different to what my child needs, setting standards about what clothes she wears (to get back to the thread) amongst other things is needed for her, in her context, in light of her experience. You’re so stuck on your own agenda of catching “victim blaming” you can’t see the woods for the trees.

I reply to that many I don't register names. Sorry my list has started with you.

Please tell me names and dates of birth of family members.

Most people guide and teach and direct their daughter and talk about how they have done that without saying how long since they have done it and also yes most do do that into adulthood as kids these days are not prepared for adulthood as many wipe their arses for far too long.

Why do you keep bringing up what happened to me and how that impacts on my dating as it doesn't at all? It is an obsession you have which is weird.

You are stuck in your own agenda obsessing over a strangers rape and making odd assumptions when it wasn't even being discussed. I do not understand your constant bringing it up when I do not have an issue with it and you keep telling me I do. Move on. I have done so why can't you? You cannot see the woods for the trees.

And a lot of people get a kick out of seeing it, which is much worse, that's why the discussion has unfolded.

I’m torn between women should wear what they want and not be dictated by the male gaze to worry they are exploiting themselves and shouldn’t have their arses hanging out

I think the key is explaining to kids that they don't have to follow every trend to the extreme. They can wear a short skirt, but it doesn't have to be the shortest most revealing skirt they can find.

I see where you're coming from. For me what's important though is that there OP is not talking about women. She's talking about girls.

Children aren't mini adults, they are going through a complex process of developing and maturing. Their brains work differently, their perception of risk is different, their knowledge of the world is definitely lower.

I think it's appropriate for adults to set rules and boundaries on behaviour/clothes until they become old enough to make their own choices.

Op is talking about children not women. You are correct women should wear what they want.

Yes, absolutely. Without even a changing pad in some cases. Gross! I've also seen them change diapers on a towel on the beach. Then they shake off the towel when they leave, potentially flinging worm eggs onto the sand. That's probably how I got it. I haven't been to that beach since.

Not accurate. If you happen to touch something with worm eggs on it and then touch your mouth, eggs can easily get into it. If it's on your mouth and you lick your lips for example. If sit on a towel, then dry my face with it after my swim, any worms that got on the towel could get in my mouth. Not only that, you can ingest them through inhalation, which is especially easy to do with sandy soil being whipped around by the wind. So there are lots of ways to get worms at a beach.

"Accidentally swallowing or breathing in pinworm eggs causes a pinworm infection."

www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pinworm/symptoms-causes/syc-20376382

Yes I know you do have to ingest the eggs and I wasn't suggesting otherwise. For example, if you touch the sand and then touch your mouth or if you inhale them through sand stirred up into the air by the wind or people playing beach sports and shaking sand off towels and beach blankets. It's not just eating them, it's inhaling them too.

There's not much point in washing your hands at the beach which only has a water source that could also have eggs in it. So I bring sanitizer and wet wipes now and I avoid that particular beach.

As an adult dont put your fingers in your mouth, don't eat without washing your hands. Worms on your towel would be visible and it's eggs you need to worry about. I think you are getting this out of proportion, I live near a beach, in summer we'd had the kids on the beach most days and none of us caught worms.

Catching worms from inhaling eggs is very rare.

I know that. I'm not worried about ingesting the worms themselves. The eggs, otoh, are microscopic.

It may be rare, but you would probably be surprised at the number of supposedly rare things that have happened to me.
Some people just have terrible luck.

What about a naked man on the beach I wonder what fell out of his arse. Boobs everywhere a naked man and it said on the website panoramic views well I certainly got that. Let's hope no eggs flew up my way.

Well you were the one who mentioned swallowing the worms on your towel but now that doesn't worry you.

Most children won't have worms, babies in nappies even less likely as peak age for infection is 5 to 10 year olds. So the chances of you getting worms this way is very very small, happening twice even less likely. I know it isn't a nice thought but the chances are you put the eggs in your mouth so no fingers in mouth and hands properly washed before you eat.

What am I reading?

@Fetaface You really did derail this thread more than once.

I haven't commented on this thread for a while - what are you on about?

Stop derailing the thread.

As you were.

Grow up.

WTF? So you ask me if I have derailed the thread despite you being able to see when I last posted and I ask you what the hell you are on about and to stop derailing it - which you bloody well are doing as it is bloody well obvious when I posted and haven't done for ages and then get tetchy when I say it is you doing the derailing as I haven't commented which all can see.

So yes this is on you. Not sure what your point is as there appears to be no point to be made. Either make it or shut up.

I have a point I'd like to make.

It's been lovely while you've been away, a nice break from the utter confusion.

As you were

Aww sorry for sharing an opposing opinion. maybe if debating with people who think differently causes you upset then step away from a debating forum.

Sorry to break it you, throughout life you will meet people who disagree and have differences of opinions. It is acceptable to disagree and share a different idea. Might be news to you but even at this age you can learn that.

Now stop derailing.

As you were!

There was a naked man when you were at the beach? 🤢

What are you talking about? I never said any such thing. I was talking about eggs potentially being on a towel, not worms. Who would think the worms themselves would be on a towel? They live inside the body and only come out briefly at night to lay eggs.
I don't know exactly how I got them and neither do you. If I knew, I would know exactly what to avoid doing, wouldn't I.

To be fair @MuckFusk started this derailment but you did have input on the gross subject.

Replying to @Fetaface

Days ago I made a comment and you are complaining and derailing now?

You started this derailment all because you have a beef with me for some reason and so decided to bring something up that I had commented 4 days ago for no reason.

Be a bit more mature please. Holding grudges because someone disagreed with you a few days ago is a bit pathetic.

I have no issue with you and you are more than welcome to disagree with me as everyone is entitled to their opinion but this is just a bit childish to blame me for someone else's comment just because we do not agree on one topic.

I responded to a comment about hating thongs with another reason to hate thongs, which I didn't have any reason to think would derail the thread. What other people decide to do regarding my comments is not my responsibility, but you have a point in that I shouldn't have answered the posts from people quibbling about how I got the worms. So my apologies and I won't answer any more of them.