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I’m probably being a prude but…

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Username73638 · 29/06/2025 22:19

…what is the deal with teenage girls running around basically naked these days?

Last week, I was driving down the road near a secondary school at letting out time and I must have seen about 5 girls’ actual bum cheeks as they were leaving school. Like, we all rolled our skirts up fairly short at school, but this was actually full knickers and bums on display… one girl was wearing a thong so it was just her whole bum on show.

Then, I was on the beach today (we live near the sea) with my two primary school aged sons and there were a group of maybe 13-14 year old girls, they were very young, more than half of whom were in thong bikinis. They spent most of the time on the beach doing a photoshoot, predominantly photos of them from behind looking out to sea, presumably for social media?!

I know teenagers have always been teenagers, but I’m pretty sure underage girls weren’t wearing thong bikinis on the beach when I was that age 😳

I could see other families on the beach felt uncomfortable with it too.

Do their parents know? Is this just how teenagers dress these days?

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Fetaface · 02/07/2025 06:00

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 05:51

I'm very sorry you had such a horrific experience. Rape is 100% never the fault of the victim.

I don't know why you're trying to blame random posters though. It's definitely not your fault you were raped. It's not a poster on Mumsnet's fault either.

And to be blunt, your traumatic circumstances has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. We're talking about 13/14 year olds, the risk of being cat-called or upskirted or something, and whether parents and schools should enforce rules regarding clothing.

Can we stick to that discussion?

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I'm not trying to blame them. They were trying to blame me saying that my lack of clothing caused it or as the previous comment said - because I said no and had I only said yes it wouldn't have happened.

The point is this is where the conversation was going, saying school kids will get raped and attacked if they bare skin and it'll be their fault. So I was putting it in another context. Sorry you cannot understand that.

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 06:49

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 06:00

I'm not trying to blame them. They were trying to blame me saying that my lack of clothing caused it or as the previous comment said - because I said no and had I only said yes it wouldn't have happened.

The point is this is where the conversation was going, saying school kids will get raped and attacked if they bare skin and it'll be their fault. So I was putting it in another context. Sorry you cannot understand that.

You're rewriting reality. You wrote "You are the reason he walks free to this day. So thank you for putting other lives at risk.". That is blaming a random poster for a man's rape crimes!

Edited to add: I agree that the other poster then went much too far. Again, it was 100% not your fault that you were raped. However, it's not a big suprise that someone lashes out after you've blamed them for women being raped.

Kimwestonhelpless · 02/07/2025 06:50

Fetaface · 01/07/2025 22:56

I was in bed naked with him as he was my partner. He chose to rape me instead.

My fault, yes or no?

Should women never be naked with a man they are in a relationship with or else it is their fault for making him desire to rape instead of a desire for sex.

Don't justify yourself to this poster.
They were on another thread about prostitution and how it's just another thing to buy.

Kimwestonhelpless · 02/07/2025 06:52

Sorry fatface not you but the poster Mel that was having a go at you

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 07:03

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 06:49

You're rewriting reality. You wrote "You are the reason he walks free to this day. So thank you for putting other lives at risk.". That is blaming a random poster for a man's rape crimes!

Edited to add: I agree that the other poster then went much too far. Again, it was 100% not your fault that you were raped. However, it's not a big suprise that someone lashes out after you've blamed them for women being raped.

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Rewriting reality? You dont quite understand my point do you? Sorry you cant!

Petitchat · 02/07/2025 07:34

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Petitchat · 02/07/2025 07:41

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As for this personal attack and unfounded accusations, I have reported.

Worralorra · 02/07/2025 07:52

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 01/07/2025 09:09

Ah yes, shaming your daughter constantly in the street by yelling you could see her knickers was brilliant parenting

I bet she wore that skirt or similar again but where you wouldn't know because if your behaviour

Nope! Each time I called her back to whisper to her that her knickers were showing - no public shaming, and we were in a National Trust park, not the street!
And yes - it was brilliant parenting!

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 08:57

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It is called a joke!! Do you really think I assumed firemen are wanking over me? Honestly what a ridiculous belief you have?!

Nope the reason I do not sleep with clothes is because of sensitive skin and the need to cover myself in half a pharmacy before bed so there needs to be clothes on to stop the bed sheets getting ruined.

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 09:02

Worralorra · 02/07/2025 07:52

Nope! Each time I called her back to whisper to her that her knickers were showing - no public shaming, and we were in a National Trust park, not the street!
And yes - it was brilliant parenting!

She'll keep quiet when something happens to her now as she knows you are not a safe person to report to.

Worralorra · 02/07/2025 09:06

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 09:02

She'll keep quiet when something happens to her now as she knows you are not a safe person to report to.

Utter Bllcks.

She still laughs about it to this day (she’s over 30 now) and has always been very open with me about everything.

It worked for me and her!

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 09:10

Worralorra · 02/07/2025 09:06

Utter Bllcks.

She still laughs about it to this day (she’s over 30 now) and has always been very open with me about everything.

It worked for me and her!

True! Almost all who report to families get told they were to blame. You have shown her you would say this.

How many times has she reported sexual assaults to you?!

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 10:01

Worralorra · 02/07/2025 09:06

Utter Bllcks.

She still laughs about it to this day (she’s over 30 now) and has always been very open with me about everything.

It worked for me and her!

Sounds like you found a way that worked for both your daughter and you, that's great.

CorbyTrouserPress · 02/07/2025 11:45

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 09:10

True! Almost all who report to families get told they were to blame. You have shown her you would say this.

How many times has she reported sexual assaults to you?!

She hadn’t shown her anything of the sort. I get this is a very emotive subject for you but your constant twisting of what is being said and unfounded accusations are counter productive. I’m sure I’ll be the subject of your next verbal attack for daring to agree with someone else.

LemonCheesecake2025 · 02/07/2025 12:57

Fetaface · 01/07/2025 23:00

Paedos are wanting kids not flesh. This is about what turns a paedo on, paedos like males and female kids as it is a child they want not a body! Men who gaze at kids bums are paedos.

Does your DH look at men like that too? If not then he is not the kind of man we are on about as men who perve over teen girls also perve over teen boys and so it isn't the sight of a knee that turns them on. It is their age.

So your ankle isn't sexy but your knee is? Well each to their own! Don't show your knees in public you might get attacked and it'll be your fault.

I meant more breasts and bum because as I said they were skimpy.

I used to go clubbing with short dresses and skirts on and my Mum would tell me to be careful of bending over. She said it jokingly but I'm sure she was also worried. She wouldn't have victim blamed if anything had happened.

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 14:52

CorbyTrouserPress · 02/07/2025 11:45

She hadn’t shown her anything of the sort. I get this is a very emotive subject for you but your constant twisting of what is being said and unfounded accusations are counter productive. I’m sure I’ll be the subject of your next verbal attack for daring to agree with someone else.

Not twisting anything. That is what you have shown that you would do as self blame happens in all victims more so when they are told they should've done X or Y. Research is very clear on that.

You can agree with someone as I am allowed to disagree and give reasons and share the outcomes of actions.

And no it isn't an emotive subject for me. Please do not make unfounded accusations as they are counter productive.

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 14:54

LemonCheesecake2025 · 02/07/2025 12:57

I meant more breasts and bum because as I said they were skimpy.

I used to go clubbing with short dresses and skirts on and my Mum would tell me to be careful of bending over. She said it jokingly but I'm sure she was also worried. She wouldn't have victim blamed if anything had happened.

Almost all parents victim blame because almost all believe that X or Y would've prevented it. The percentage of parents who would blame is well into the 80% figure. So the probability your mum would is very high.

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 14:59

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 14:54

Almost all parents victim blame because almost all believe that X or Y would've prevented it. The percentage of parents who would blame is well into the 80% figure. So the probability your mum would is very high.

Again showing you don't understand how statistics work.

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 15:02

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 14:59

Again showing you don't understand how statistics work.

Ha ha ha! I most certainly do! That I do! Did you not see the word probability. Basic mathematics talk. Not sure you understand what that is and also how that 80% applies to probability.

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 15:10

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 15:02

Ha ha ha! I most certainly do! That I do! Did you not see the word probability. Basic mathematics talk. Not sure you understand what that is and also how that 80% applies to probability.

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No, you clearly don't understand.

Take for example hair colour. Worldwide, 70 percent of people have black hair. That does not mean that each individual child born has a 70% chance of having black hair. The chance of me having a child with black hair is in fact close to 0% considering that everyone in my extended family is blond or brown-haired.

Same with the PP's mum. Maybe globally 80% blame their kids for being victims (I have no idea where you got that figure from). But the PP knows her mum's personality, values and past history and would be able to say that in her individual case it's closer to 0%.

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 15:14

Fetaface · 30/06/2025 19:31

You flashed your tits as a kid at men and are now thankful it wasnt on camera. What a confession! Why did you take your bra off in the streets for men?

Btw, are you ever going to apologise for writing this to me even after I pointed out that I never did anything of the sort and you'd mistaken me for another poster?

Though I'm wondering where your ideas that kids can wear anything and clothes don't matter fit in with shaming teenage girls for going topless?

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 15:23

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 15:10

No, you clearly don't understand.

Take for example hair colour. Worldwide, 70 percent of people have black hair. That does not mean that each individual child born has a 70% chance of having black hair. The chance of me having a child with black hair is in fact close to 0% considering that everyone in my extended family is blond or brown-haired.

Same with the PP's mum. Maybe globally 80% blame their kids for being victims (I have no idea where you got that figure from). But the PP knows her mum's personality, values and past history and would be able to say that in her individual case it's closer to 0%.

That would be probability which I just explained!! ha ha! Thanks for the maths lesson on one I explained to you!

Probability means she is more likely than not and given her mum's history that also makes it more likely as you say past history is included and her history and values show that she victim blames.

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 15:29

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 15:14

Btw, are you ever going to apologise for writing this to me even after I pointed out that I never did anything of the sort and you'd mistaken me for another poster?

Though I'm wondering where your ideas that kids can wear anything and clothes don't matter fit in with shaming teenage girls for going topless?

Why when I was commenting on what you had directly said about what you did? If you talked about it you got a reply about it. Why would you be relieved about smartphones not being around when you mentioned flashing tits in the sentence above and not intend for the two to be linked?

So YOU read a post by someone else and presumed I also had? Ok, that is on your for assuming then not me!

I've not shamed teenagers for going topless. They can go topless if they want. Flashing is not going topless. The two things are different.

Same as flashing a dick at someone is not the same as going naked at a nudist beach. One is a crime, one is not.

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 15:32

Fetaface · 02/07/2025 15:23

That would be probability which I just explained!! ha ha! Thanks for the maths lesson on one I explained to you!

Probability means she is more likely than not and given her mum's history that also makes it more likely as you say past history is included and her history and values show that she victim blames.

You explained nothing. The PP stated that her mother would never blame a victim. You are contradicting her and throwing around fake statistics based on 0 reading it evidence.

I can only assume you're actively trying to wind people up. Congratulations on derailing the thread I guess.

LemonCheesecake2025 · 02/07/2025 15:34

Thatsalineallright · 02/07/2025 15:10

No, you clearly don't understand.

Take for example hair colour. Worldwide, 70 percent of people have black hair. That does not mean that each individual child born has a 70% chance of having black hair. The chance of me having a child with black hair is in fact close to 0% considering that everyone in my extended family is blond or brown-haired.

Same with the PP's mum. Maybe globally 80% blame their kids for being victims (I have no idea where you got that figure from). But the PP knows her mum's personality, values and past history and would be able to say that in her individual case it's closer to 0%.

Thank you.

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