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To ask where I can move that won't have depressing random nutcases and law-exempt criminal youth around every corner

273 replies

Fragmentedbrain · 26/06/2025 17:29

I know it's nice to have a social safety net and I want that but we don't have it now it's just unfunded chaos and the press moaning about public sector workers.

So, Switzerland? Singapore? Where is feasible (in my forties so recognise that I'd need to make a damn good case for myself). Somewhere boring and hardworking with rules and clean streets and a health service you can access and no toleration for the stuff that's everywhere in the UK now.

I am prepared for the answer to be hard cheese you left it too late and now just need to stay indoors as much as poss until the sweet release of death.

OP posts:
MadameSzyszkoBohusz · 26/06/2025 20:04

Rinkali · 26/06/2025 20:01

What about somewhere like the Isle of Man? Isn't that meant to be relatively 20thC still? Or Shetland? Apparently there's a cake fridge. And a lot of murderous oil bastards/vengeful families, etc.

Or the Channel Isles? I went to Jersey in 2010 for a wedding and it appeared to be stuck in the 1980s. Maybe it’s made it to the 90s by now?

LakieLady · 26/06/2025 20:07

cannotbetooarsed · 26/06/2025 19:32

Vancouver Island …absolutely gorgeous and clean .

My DM lived on Vancouver Island for a few years just after WW2. She loved it.

I suspect Canada has a lot going for it. My DF travelled extensively with his job, and I once asked him which of the places he'd worked he'd most like to live in. He said Nova Scotia, although he also liked Gothenburg and Copenhagen.

Absentmindedsmile · 26/06/2025 20:07

Saudi Arabia

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 20:09

LakieLady · 26/06/2025 19:59

I'm another living in a very pleasant, clean, low-crime area.

It's a small town in the SE, surrounded by beautiful countryside and close to the coast. There is loads going on - live music, comedy nights, concerts, terrific independent cinema that is run by local people and owned as a community asset. There are great pubs, nice cafes and some good places to eat. I can walk round the corner from my house, cross the road and then I could walk 5 miles or so before I got to a road. And it's only an hour from London on the train.

Where is this?

KateMiskin · 26/06/2025 20:12

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 20:01

Why wouldn’t they let OP in?

Because, just as the UK mandates a Life in the UK test and English tests, Sweden requires knowledge of Swedish?

dynamiccactus · 26/06/2025 20:16

Jersey is lovely but it's difficult to move there unless you are a high net worth individual.

I like the Netherlands, but the OP would need an EEA passport.

When the OP said the nicest city in England I thought she meant York. I think it's a great place to live if you avoid the hen parties.

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 20:17

KateMiskin · 26/06/2025 20:12

Because, just as the UK mandates a Life in the UK test and English tests, Sweden requires knowledge of Swedish?

I know someone who moved to Sweden, and they didn’t speak Swedish - the same for Netherlands

skippy67 · 26/06/2025 20:18

Profpudding · 26/06/2025 18:14

Er really?

Yes, really.

Bikergran · 26/06/2025 20:21

Fragmentedbrain · 26/06/2025 18:30

You can't just stay "in my area" 24/7 though can you.

No, and I go shopping, out to bars, restaurants etc in the city centre, where you do see occasional incidents of rowdy behaviour, but that's anywhere. Unless you're lurking down seedy back streets, you shouldn't be scared of getting out!! For info, I'm 71, and still go out.

JustFish · 26/06/2025 20:23

Scandinavian countries
. However, you would have to ask yourself what you can contribute to the society, hard to get a job without language skills unless you are specifically skilled or qualified residency permission isn't always a given and you would be expected to learn the language and make an effort to integrate socially rather than living in an ex pat ghetto, passively reaping the benefits of the stable society others are working to develop.

You complain about the society you are living in atm - and I would ask the same thing : what are you contributing to society, how are you integrating and engageing with your local area/community and more widely to improve things?

Crikeyalmighty · 26/06/2025 20:25

I must admit when we lived in Copenhagen it fitted a lot of your bill - it does have some grim bits - but they are pretty easy to simply not go near - I saw the odd nutter- but way less than you see in the UK

Needmorelego · 26/06/2025 20:30

Utopia is nice apparently.
Unfortunately no one knows where it actually is.

Noshadowsinthedark · 26/06/2025 20:35

You live in one of the most privileged times and countries in the world.

I think you need to adjust your mindset rather than your country.

28Fluctuations · 26/06/2025 20:53

Fragmentedbrain · 26/06/2025 17:43

Just the UK 30 years ago would be fine

I'm too old to care what your politics are I just don't want to look at filth and grime and have random guys lunging at me in the street

I'd take Kings Cross and Elephant and Castle now rather than 30 years ago, thanks.

Do you need to move or get off Twitter/Facebook/doomloop media?

brainexplorer · 26/06/2025 20:59

I moved to a small town in Canada almost 10 years ago and I've never regretted it. The immigration path I took is closed now though. There is still express entry for in demand sectors.

SleeplessInWherever · 26/06/2025 21:03

MadameSzyszkoBohusz · 26/06/2025 17:52

Can’t you just move to a nicer bit of the UK? We don’t have any issues like the ones you describe in my area.

I’m originally from a fairly “rough” part of the country, and didn’t have those issues either.

drspouse · 26/06/2025 21:06

Fragmentedbrain · 26/06/2025 17:43

Just the UK 30 years ago would be fine

I'm too old to care what your politics are I just don't want to look at filth and grime and have random guys lunging at me in the street

I don't remember any less filth, grime, and random men 30 years ago. But you were 10 so perhaps you didn't notice.
I went back to my Uni city recently and it's totally tarted up. I didn't recognise it without the Special Brew drinkers.

Toetouchingtitties · 26/06/2025 21:07

Not RTFT… St Kitts and Nevis

SpanThatWorld · 26/06/2025 21:08

BoredZelda · 26/06/2025 18:53

I was 20. Those things were definitely a thing 30 years ago.

You should move to Malmö. Except they probably wouldn’t let you in.

I love Malmö. We were on holiday there this time last year.

Its per capita murder rate is 20x that of London.

We also visited Goteborg. Popped out to buy some bread in an area so dismal that it reminded me of the USSR.

Sweden is lovely; we've been more than once. But it isn't Utopia. And post-Brexit, we don't have any right to be there and they don't need to encourage migration.

Figcherry · 26/06/2025 21:12

jetlag92 · 26/06/2025 19:39

Beaconsfield? Old Amersham?

If you have money, it’s not cheap.

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 21:13

Noshadowsinthedark · 26/06/2025 20:35

You live in one of the most privileged times and countries in the world.

I think you need to adjust your mindset rather than your country.

Is it really though?

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 21:14

drspouse · 26/06/2025 21:06

I don't remember any less filth, grime, and random men 30 years ago. But you were 10 so perhaps you didn't notice.
I went back to my Uni city recently and it's totally tarted up. I didn't recognise it without the Special Brew drinkers.

🤣

Figcherry · 26/06/2025 21:16

dynamiccactus · 26/06/2025 20:16

Jersey is lovely but it's difficult to move there unless you are a high net worth individual.

I like the Netherlands, but the OP would need an EEA passport.

When the OP said the nicest city in England I thought she meant York. I think it's a great place to live if you avoid the hen parties.

John Nettles was very annoyed after 10 years of working on the Bergerac series he applied to live permanently in Jersey and got turned down.

drspouse · 26/06/2025 21:17

Figcherry · 26/06/2025 21:16

John Nettles was very annoyed after 10 years of working on the Bergerac series he applied to live permanently in Jersey and got turned down.

Oh that's classic!

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