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To ask where I can move that won't have depressing random nutcases and law-exempt criminal youth around every corner

273 replies

Fragmentedbrain · 26/06/2025 17:29

I know it's nice to have a social safety net and I want that but we don't have it now it's just unfunded chaos and the press moaning about public sector workers.

So, Switzerland? Singapore? Where is feasible (in my forties so recognise that I'd need to make a damn good case for myself). Somewhere boring and hardworking with rules and clean streets and a health service you can access and no toleration for the stuff that's everywhere in the UK now.

I am prepared for the answer to be hard cheese you left it too late and now just need to stay indoors as much as poss until the sweet release of death.

OP posts:
HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 26/06/2025 19:07

Japan - although you’d probably have to learn the language and getting a long term visa might be a problem.

Crushed23 · 26/06/2025 19:10

I’m amazed at how many threads like this I see. I emigrated from the UK last year due to stagnant wages, but I loved everything else about living in London/the UK. It was wonderful. Where I live now is “the only place I would leave London for”. That’s how much I love London.

Where do you live, OP? What’s so terrible about it? Can the UK have changed that much in the year I’ve been gone?!

I’m genuinely baffled by this discussion.

ssd · 26/06/2025 19:11

The moon

Taytayslayslay · 26/06/2025 19:12

MadameSzyszkoBohusz · 26/06/2025 17:52

Can’t you just move to a nicer bit of the UK? We don’t have any issues like the ones you describe in my area.

Same, I moved from this kind of city to a far nicer town (West midlands still but so nice) and we have no issues like this

Icanttakethisanymore · 26/06/2025 19:22

MadameSzyszkoBohusz · 26/06/2025 17:52

Can’t you just move to a nicer bit of the UK? We don’t have any issues like the ones you describe in my area.

Yeah… but that would be too simple 😂 (and not involve a performative MN post)

KateMiskin · 26/06/2025 19:23

Icanttakethisanymore · 26/06/2025 19:22

Yeah… but that would be too simple 😂 (and not involve a performative MN post)

As would actually sharing skills, languages and budget.

Icanttakethisanymore · 26/06/2025 19:24

Crushed23 · 26/06/2025 19:10

I’m amazed at how many threads like this I see. I emigrated from the UK last year due to stagnant wages, but I loved everything else about living in London/the UK. It was wonderful. Where I live now is “the only place I would leave London for”. That’s how much I love London.

Where do you live, OP? What’s so terrible about it? Can the UK have changed that much in the year I’ve been gone?!

I’m genuinely baffled by this discussion.

Where do you live?? I don’t live in a shit area btw, it’s fine here, I don’t recognise these issues but I do love London and I don’t live there anymore so I wonder if I need to live where you do!

NewsdeskJC · 26/06/2025 19:25

North Korea would suit

rickyrickygrimes · 26/06/2025 19:29

Move to a nice area. My parents live in rural but accessible to hospitals / shops in Scotland and it’s lovely. Big expensive houses, completely middle class / arty / mostly retired people. My sister just moved to the Borders and it’s equally lovely. She used to live in central Edinburgh, but in a very naice suburb so nothing like you describe. I live in France, in a city but a lovely arrondissement and again nothing like you describe.

QuantumLevelActions · 26/06/2025 19:31

MadameSzyszkoBohusz · 26/06/2025 17:52

Can’t you just move to a nicer bit of the UK? We don’t have any issues like the ones you describe in my area.

Or in my area. It's lovely here. Small town in East Midlands.

EasternStandard · 26/06/2025 19:31

KateMiskin · 26/06/2025 19:23

As would actually sharing skills, languages and budget.

This, if the op really does want to move.

cannotbetooarsed · 26/06/2025 19:32

Vancouver Island …absolutely gorgeous and clean .

MadameSzyszkoBohusz · 26/06/2025 19:36

Fragmentedbrain · 26/06/2025 17:57

I live in supposedly the nicest city in the UK. Whenever people say "I never see that" I assume they drive everywhere.

Well I don’t, I walk most places. My city is a lovely place to live - safe and friendly, with a strong sense of community.

jetlag92 · 26/06/2025 19:39

Beaconsfield? Old Amersham?

Turkeylurkie · 26/06/2025 19:42

ComtesseDeSpair · 26/06/2025 17:53

Well, would the scandi countries want you? Do you speak the languages? Know their cultures? Have the skills they’re in need of? Broadly, any receiving country is interested in what you are offering them, not the other way around. “Not minding” paying a fortune in tax, only works if you have will have the base to pay that fortune in tax from.

Like UK you mean .......

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 19:44

Fragmentedbrain · 26/06/2025 17:29

I know it's nice to have a social safety net and I want that but we don't have it now it's just unfunded chaos and the press moaning about public sector workers.

So, Switzerland? Singapore? Where is feasible (in my forties so recognise that I'd need to make a damn good case for myself). Somewhere boring and hardworking with rules and clean streets and a health service you can access and no toleration for the stuff that's everywhere in the UK now.

I am prepared for the answer to be hard cheese you left it too late and now just need to stay indoors as much as poss until the sweet release of death.

I think you and I could be friends……

Pigtailsandall · 26/06/2025 19:45

BunnyLake · 26/06/2025 18:25

Norway is often voted best place to live. There are some areas I’ve seen on TV that are absolutely stunning but I don’t know about cities and towns.

I thought it has been Finland for several years running? Or happiest place, maybe.

What do you do for a living - would any of your skills be in demand in the Nordics?

Ontheedgeofit · 26/06/2025 19:47

Fragmentedbrain · 26/06/2025 17:50

I think it's just the expense and sadness. I don't mind paying a fortune in tax if it gives a safe and clean environment. Maybe the scandi countries are the answer.

Stockholm is one of the grimiest cities I’ve ever been to. The drug scene was terrible. And that’s saying a lot. I come from South Africa.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/06/2025 19:55

Fragmentedbrain · 26/06/2025 17:57

I live in supposedly the nicest city in the UK. Whenever people say "I never see that" I assume they drive everywhere.

its probably the “city” bit that’s the issue. I live in a village and don’t have those problems but equally don’t have the facilities of a city

Anzena · 26/06/2025 19:55

I'd go to the West or South coast of ROI. Towns I'd live in are Westport, Kenmare, Kinsale, Dunmore East, Wexford, Wicklow. All lovely but none totally perfect either, where is?

Cost of living high. Health care fine if you have PHI, public health system creaking like UK. No visa required, just pack up and leave under Common Travel Area.

I used to live in South Dublin. It was great but expensive. North side of Dublin is not generally recommended but has pockets of beauty, but South of the city is fab. That's where the politicians and wealthy folk live so it's well taken care of.😊

Treeleaf11 · 26/06/2025 19:55

If you have the money to emigrate you can afford to move to a nice part of the UK. My village isn't anything like you describe.
Don't watch the Simon Reeve Scandinavia programme if you think it's perfect there.

LakieLady · 26/06/2025 19:59

I'm another living in a very pleasant, clean, low-crime area.

It's a small town in the SE, surrounded by beautiful countryside and close to the coast. There is loads going on - live music, comedy nights, concerts, terrific independent cinema that is run by local people and owned as a community asset. There are great pubs, nice cafes and some good places to eat. I can walk round the corner from my house, cross the road and then I could walk 5 miles or so before I got to a road. And it's only an hour from London on the train.

Rinkali · 26/06/2025 20:01

What about somewhere like the Isle of Man? Isn't that meant to be relatively 20thC still? Or Shetland? Apparently there's a cake fridge. And a lot of murderous oil bastards/vengeful families, etc.

RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 20:01

BoredZelda · 26/06/2025 18:53

I was 20. Those things were definitely a thing 30 years ago.

You should move to Malmö. Except they probably wouldn’t let you in.

Why wouldn’t they let OP in?

Swssa · 26/06/2025 20:03

Ontheedgeofit · 26/06/2025 19:47

Stockholm is one of the grimiest cities I’ve ever been to. The drug scene was terrible. And that’s saying a lot. I come from South Africa.

Did you grow up in constant fear of death?