To think the US was right to bomb Iran? What am I missing?

[Lastu]

I am no fan of Trump. I’m very much left wing.

But am I missing something here? Why has everyone become such huge supporters of Iran? The world is a safer place as a result of removing their capability to develop nuclear weapons? Why is everyone carrying on like Iran is a victim and they were truly just trying to implement peaceful nuclear capabilities? Has everyone lost the plot?

This is what I understood situation to be.

Iran was enriching but no-where near a weapon grade and it was Trump in first term who threw out agreement with them. Why would tehy negoataiate with a party they cearly can't trust.

That's not to say Iran hasn't been a problem for region and for terroism worldwide - they absolutely have.

Israel had poltcial world wide problems thanks to their actions in Gaza - and yes they were provoked by Hamas. They and USA against all advice set up aid stations where hundreds have been killed. But look now they are saving rest of world from evil country with nuclear weapons.

I hope MAGA base who wanted an end to endless wars foreign wars push back - though I wonder some are hoping they can use situation to claim emergency situation on home front and go after poltcial opponents as many have publically said they want to.

I've also heard lot of "experts" claim this means the Iranins can more easily rise up and free themsleves - it could happen but Nazis though they could create a class war to weaken Britain and opposite happened - 80 year late it still spoken of as a unifying period in our history.

YABU.
Israel started all of this and the country that defends itself gets punished.
Just like all the sly, nasty kids in school who wind other kids up to the point of violence, and then get protected when those kids rightfully snap.

The people of Israel are not safer because of this. No one is.

True. The argument is that with hindsight we SHOULD have. We would have reduced the deaths from around 80 million people to maybe 3 or 4 million. WW2 was the deadliest war in the history of the planet and we need to learn from it.

They are much safer. Hopefully the US and Israel will finish the job and the whole civilised world should thank them.

The strikes had no received congressional approval. So your argument about Trump being also so democratic is a bit off OP.

israel sends air strikes to Iran, Iran retaliates and then USA involvement? Iran has now promised retaliation, leading to regional escalation and more deaths. What is the long term effectiveness? US bases will now be targeted in Iraq, Bahrain and maybe even Saudi Arabia.

Iran might withdraw from the IPT, and so will the other countries in the Middle East.

it’s a mess.

it’s not that people are supporting Iran, it’s that people are shocked at such a provocative and dangerous decision.

Israel was attacked within days of its post war founding and the threat has been constant since then. Think you've cast the bully round the wrong way.

Fair question. It does seem to tally in these threads.

You have clearly lost the plot @Lastu and don't seem to want to listen to any different views. You are missing plenty!

And the British government deported members of the German resistance who came to London back to Germany and Hitler.

Oh please, all Nations are hostile, or do you believe the tale than we are "the good ones". Just a bunch of power obsessed clowns leading all the countries now, they are ALL as bad as each other.

Perfect! Let’s just wait until a hostile despotic regime actually has a nuclear weapon before we think about asking them nicely not to have one, because they did promise not to 🙄🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

You obviously have no idea of what is going on at all. There's no other reasonable explanation for such ignorance. The country defending itself is Israel.

Spoiler: this is untrue.

Iran-funded Houthis have been disrupting global shipping routes for years now. Companies have been sending their freight the long way around to avoid them, and passing the increased costs onto consumers, fueling inflation. So yes, they've threatened world trade, and it has very much been reported on. Where have you been?

Iran have also been funding proxies to attack Israel for years now, destabilising the region and, yes, threatening world peace. They call Israel the little Satan and America the great Satan, and have been vocal in their desire to destroy both.

I don't know where you're getting your news, but it seems quite limited. I'd branch out if I were you.

Iran have absolutely been developing the capabilities for nuclear weapons. For power generation, Uranium only needs to be enriched to 3.5%. The Iranians have admitted to enriching large quantities of Uranium to 60%, which you only do if you are developing a weapon. Iran only has one nuclear power plant, and this is fuelled by Uranium from Russia. So it is patently clear that Iran has been working towards the bomb.

Iran's theocracy is existentially opposed to the existence of Israel and the US. Their lawmakers have been known to chant 'death to America' en-masse in their parliament. The mullahs believe they have been ordained by god to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. In 1983, Iran's proxy Hezbollah killed 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel in a truck bombing in Beirut.

It seems totally uncontroversial to me to think that this regime simply cannot be allowed to have the bomb. Peaceful attempts to stop them (e.g. Obama's deal) have failed. If Iran gets the bomb, then a whole host of other middle-Eastern countries (Turkey, Saudi Arabia, etc) will also 'need' to get the bomb, and there will be a rapid new phase of nuclear proliferation which will make the world a more dangerous place.

Please show the source where India has decided to come out in support of Iran.

Since India and Pakistan already seem to be ready to come to blows, I am interested in how India came out to support Iran.

Because the US are never the aggressors?

Israel?

Come oooooooon.

You should include Israel as a hostile despotic regime. One of the biggest threats to world peace right now.

That's your opinion.

We in Ireland have always been on the side of the Palestinians.

The UK government should follow our lead, instead of the disgraceful way it has behaved all throughout this.

Kneecap will show your establishment a thing or 2 in court on 20th August and teach you once again you don't mess with the Irish.

Solidarity with all oppressed people.

No they're not.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/ckgln38nvjxo

Taking the decision to congress might have alerted Iran to the plan?

Who decides who is allowed them or not?

The fact the Iran could go on it's way to creating nuclear armaments is down to Trump pulling out of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/iran-nuclear-deal-trump-united-states/story?id=123020009

Trump is covering his mistakes

The British people have never been oppressed like the Iranians though, well not in modern times anyway. We haven't had medieval laws imposed on us by a religious theocracy, since medieval times. Iran was very modern and liberal up until the Islamic revolution. They went from being somewhere similar to western Europe in outlook and culture to one of the most subjugated societies on earth. Especially the women.

Yes that’ll do it.