To think the US was right to bomb Iran? What am I missing?

[Lastu]

I am no fan of Trump. I’m very much left wing.

But am I missing something here? Why has everyone become such huge supporters of Iran? The world is a safer place as a result of removing their capability to develop nuclear weapons? Why is everyone carrying on like Iran is a victim and they were truly just trying to implement peaceful nuclear capabilities? Has everyone lost the plot?

Didn't Iran give up uranium enrichment towards nuclear weapons under Obama? All UN inspectors confirmed that Iran was indeed honouring that agreement. Then Trump came in and ripped up that agreement in 2018, so Iran went back to stockpiling uranium. Now Trump bombs them for doing what he basically pushed them to do because Netanyahu is pulling his strings. Could have left the agreement well enough alone.

This has aged well.

His followers are already talking about not giving up the Presidency. Anyone who thinks Trump is going to go quietly once his second term is over is very much mistaken.
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No, I don't think they are years away at all. I think it's become clear they weren't

What evidence do you have of that?

Except that wasn't why they intervened. The ultimatum leading to the UK joining the war was not "Stop persecuting minorities" but "Stop invading Poland". The US left the Germans to carry on killing and imprisoning minorities for another two years after that, and joined the war after an attack by Japan.

Exactly.

I hope Starmer isn't as stupid as @Lastu and doesn't drag Britain into the war.

And it doesn't make it false either. We can't say its true, but we can say that it's likely, given that Iran's goal is the complete destruction of Israel. So, there's that.

Honestly so many people online saying how come the US can have nukes but Iran can't. It's like asking how come the IRA couldn't have guns but the army could .

Iran sponsors terrorism. Hezbollah, hamas etc. They are all suicidal maniacs who would not think twice about sending everyone to oblivion. Trump has done the right thing.

There is no proof or indication that Iran was going to develop it's nuclear weapons potential according to BBC Verify https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn840275p5yo
This is reminiscent of Iraq, where the "information" was groundless. Israel has become a serious aggressor in the Middle East and is very influential in Washington. Trump habitually uses deviation tactics to deflect attention away from his dubious method of government, and that is exactly what he is doing. Think Epstein files, and miserable birthday parades for starters.He was going to end the Russian/Ukrainian war within days of election, but instead, he's started up another war.

Very true. The argument is that they SHOULD have stepped in and didn't, leading to the deaths of many, many more millions than was necessary.

Is the left wing position that Iran must be allowed to develop nuclear weapons?

Says the BBC 🤣

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt17279496/

This film is worth watching as it shows the direction the USA is heading under the current Presidency. It's an uncowatch in parts but not too far off reality in certain parts of the US & the wider world.

Your statement could quite easily be describing the US under its current administration 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yes perhaps Greta could pop over with her keffiyeh on to oversee proceedings then they could have an LGBT rights party afterwards? I bet the current regime would welcome both.

Your PHD does not give you the right to call me, or anyone an idiot.

It is fact that the BBC are biased. Or do you think Iraq still had WMD?

There have been a number of reports to prove the bias, including whistleblowing by its own journalists.

All I’m saying is people should watch different news channels to get a different perspective.

The UK Government knew what the Nazis were doing to Jewish people in the 1930s but still refused to let them into the UK. They made a concession for some of the children to come to the UK on the Kindertransport. My uncle came to the UK in 1939 on the Kindertransport from Vienna. His parents had to stay in Austria.

We didn't go to war because the Nazis were exterminating the Jews and other ethnic groups. We could have accepted lots more of them as refugees but the government didn't want to do that.

Hahahaha.

BBC Verify do not have a 100% record,though. And think it's not unreasonable to follow the logic through based on Iranian statements about other countries. Doesn't mean I like or trust trump:but that Doesn't mean Iran us a trust worthy government either.and it's ridiculous that needs saying

No one wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. For the avoidance of doubt - Iran hates the UK

I am "very much left wing" but not blindly left wing. I think these fools believe that if you align with a particular political ideology then you have to follow if mindlessly no without any critical thought. The left wing position is that Israel is evil, and therefore anything that helps Israel or hurts its enemies must also be evil. Well, this leftie is not on board with that. Having spent a long time in the middle east, including Israel, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Judea and Samaria, and Jordan, I went from having no opinion, to having strong opinions which, for reasons I don't understand, do not align with left wing narrative.

I think some time on mn shows some do want this. Bizarre but that’s SM atm

Just out of interest, what colour skin do you think Israelis have? Or Americans?

No.