To think the US was right to bomb Iran? What am I missing?

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I am no fan of Trump. I’m very much left wing.

But am I missing something here? Why has everyone become such huge supporters of Iran? The world is a safer place as a result of removing their capability to develop nuclear weapons? Why is everyone carrying on like Iran is a victim and they were truly just trying to implement peaceful nuclear capabilities? Has everyone lost the plot?

How do you feel about people who don't support the Iranian regime but just want no more wars/bombing where Innocent civilians are killed and infrastructure is ruined?

You don't believe medics who worked on children shot in the face by drones but instead choose to believe a solider with a strong bias against Palestine who described the conflict as "This war in Gaza is the clearest case of good vs evil"

Well yeah, I suppose if you don’t like his opinion
you’d say that.

Are you more informed factually and intellectually than him?

Yes I am.

And that was a quote from his x page.

Wrong pic!

Oops

Gross.
I second the motion that he should fuck right off.

But @MuckFusk he's much more trustworthy than those silly doctors who put themselves at risk to help snipered children in a warzone.

Siding with Iran?

The left is no more siding with Iran than MAGA are. You don't want us involved in this war. I don't want us involved in this war. Trump voting military families don't want any part of this war. As prominent MAGA members said today, they didn't vote for Trump to "Make Iran Great Again". They want no part in this war.

People are protesting America joining the war and sending a message to PM Starmer that we need to stay out of it.

Why do you state with confidence that he’s got a strong basis against Palestine (which does actually include Israel, unless you mean Gaza) as opposed to he’s giving an opinion on what he seen paired with his knowledge and hands on experience?

Because he’s a former British Major, lectured at Sandhurst and he’s a leading authority in his field or because you refuse to consider his opinion as it may mean you are wrong?

Ooh, i found a substack laying out the evidence that Netenyahu has been arming jihadists in Palestine for years.

Since you trust Substack, you want me to link it @PickyBits? Would you believe it if I did?

Funny how times change, eh?

I state it with confidence because he said it himself .

Palestine does not include Israel I recognize it as a separate country m

Being an ex British solider does make him much more knowledgeable about some aspects of military action however with his level of bias it does not make him above reproach.

Why do you think a medic that's actually on the ground can't be a reliable witness?

You're on the back foot now after admitting that the left are in cahoots with the Iranian Government. I remember the left being enthusiasts of the Fatwa that was placed on one of our most distinguished novelists Salman Rushdie. Lefties if I recall at the time were absolutely 100 percent behind the Fatwa. They were fully on board with it. He had, after all, insulted not just the Muslim Holy Book but the Leftist Holy Book.

Who is has admitted anyone is in cahoots with the Iranian government?

The LEFTIES!!!

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If people choose to side with one country's Gov over another then that's there business but even if innocent people aren't supposed to be missile targets, their lives and health are at risk(not just injury or death but exposure to radiation). In Iran the focus has been on destroying nuclear arms sites so far but millions of innocent people can be injured, murdered or maimed in any war. Imagine if our children were terrified,crouching, crying, shaking as missiles destroy buildings all around them. Imagine our kids being unable to access water and food because even Aid Shelters are destroyed what if our kids asked 'what have we done to deserve this?' Imagine if we die in war and our kids are alone to fend for themselves. If I was in a country at war, all I would do is be looking for ways to stay alive and praying war ends. Those leaders with the most power around the world are not that interested in what humans need, they're interested in what's in it for them. Instead of taking sides think of the children suffering and pray for a miracle that it ends quickly. Unlikely I know but the thought of being in a country at war with the sort of weapons available today is terrifying.

LOL at "in cahoots." Who are you, Yosemite Sam? "Those gol durned lefties are in cahoots with Iran! I'll get you for that, you dirty varmints!"

Why are Iran not allowed nuclear capabilities but countless other countries are?

Why are the USA (the only nation to have ever used nuclear weapons in anger) the decision-makers in who is or isn’t allowed the nukes? The same MAD principle applies, surely. The horse bolted the moment the USA started making nuclear weapons.

All I see is America dictating to the rest of the world, stirring up more trouble in the ME (again) and implicitly endorsing genocide in Gaza. I don’t ‘side’ with anyone because I’m not age 8 in the playground. But Trump’s actions have made the world much more dangerous for all of us.

And the neck of setting sanctions against us but using British bases for his showboating illegal bombing missions. WTAF.

Lots of waffle, IDF have killed civilians including children, they even killed three hostages waving white flags. They are either deliberately murdering people or totally incompetent. Medics, reporters, paramedics they lied about until the videos were shown I don't believe anything they say. If you lie and are found out you have no one to blame but yourself when people don't believe you

How do you accidentally kill thousands of children?

Why are Iran not allowed nuclear capabilities but countless other countries are?

Again, because the Iranian administration are Islamist nutters.

Trump by making a preemptive strike on the ‘possibility’ that Iran might use nuclear weapons when it has already been stated that they are at least 12 months at the earliest in having the weapons (which still does not mean they will use them), goes against international law. What he has done is basically opened Pandora’s box and given legitimacy to another slightly power hungry dictator to also just go and bomb another country ‘preemptively’. Trump has not produced any evidence to prove that the strike was needed and all he has done is added more fuel to the tinder box that is the Middle East. He has made the world a lot less safe.

https://www.thejournal.ie/liveblog-israel-iran-us-strikes-middle-east-6740806-Jun2025/

Ceasefire agreed...