To think the US was right to bomb Iran? What am I missing?

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I am no fan of Trump. I’m very much left wing.

But am I missing something here? Why has everyone become such huge supporters of Iran? The world is a safer place as a result of removing their capability to develop nuclear weapons? Why is everyone carrying on like Iran is a victim and they were truly just trying to implement peaceful nuclear capabilities? Has everyone lost the plot?

Sounds to me like you don’t have any.

That’s an easy out.

Is this a debate or a ‘I’m not going to back up what I’m saying because it’s easier to accuse you of being a bot’?

im sorry? Let’s look at the numbers of dead people and then decide who’s tryna kill who hey?! Jesus wept I absolutely despair!

When did I accuse you of being a bot? I just don’t like people wasting my time is all.

PickyBits
"How can you have the audacity to accuse others from working from a script when that is exactly what you are doing - a Hamas script,"

You have lost the plot.

I posted two links any comment?

Tell me about it. It's why I seldom join discussions on Israel/Palestine. They always become circular and frustrating and somebody inevitably uses a Hitler analogy. 😩

NYTimes …. Not reliable news. Very very biased, and dishonest.

Yes I love the yeah but no but I've loads of evidence of the IDF murdering babies and children, you've just got to take my word for it that it happens 🙄.

Hamas need to be eliminated 100% … they are savages.

See? This is why people shouldn't waste their time providing links.🤷‍♀️

What news sources do you trust @Chintzcardboard?

At what cost?

Glad you love it 😘

Outrageous of you to tell me I should be ashamed of myself for not believing Hamas propoganda? I am certainly NOT ashamed of that. .

This doctor who never witnessed anything he accuses Israel of himself? How is that evidence?

This analysis is pretty detailed and makes more sense to me. Of course the writer, despite having extensive military expertise, more than the doctor, won’t be believed as it doesn’t toe the popular line. The ‘cuboid pellets evidence’ is taken apart with an easy explanation. That was a slip up.

https://mrandrewfox.substack.com/p/professor-nizam-mamode

I can’t open the Guardian one as it’s behind a paywall. Any excerpts you want to share?

Have you got anything else to refute Andrew Fox’s assertion that there is as yet absolutely no video evidence of the IDF targeting children?

Ooh, you prefer an opinion on Substack to news.

Any news source you trust/can manage to read?

Andrew Fox
Hamas propaganda
Don't believe medics.

Same old Script.

I prefer an opinion of someone who’s been in Gaza multiple times, seen it with his own eyes, and has experience of warfare as opposed to ‘news’, yeah.

What news source do you trust?

https://aoav.org.uk/2024/flawed-critique-how-andrew-foxs-report-for-the-henry-jackson-society-on-gaza-death-toll-lacks-evidence-for-key-claims/

I don’t think you’re going to find them on Mumsnet

Basis for that? He didn’t say he didn’t believe the medics. I thought his opinion was pretty impartial.

He’s former UK military. Take it you’re in the UK. You dismiss him? You think you know better than him? You’ve been in Gaza during the war. Observed the IDF?

Are you seriously saying you don’t think Hamas do propaganda? How do you think they thought they would win this war?

Really interested in those answers.

Someone?

Well you found the one you were looking for. Not news. Not the Israeli government. Not Palestinian people. Not MSF, UNICEF or any other agencies inside Gaza. Not anyone who challenges your limited knowledge or lack of desire for knowledge.

You found your preferred opinion and you're sticking to it.

As Mrs. Brown would say: That's nice.

"As far as I’m concerned if you’re not pro-Israel then you’re morally, factually and intellectually either ill-informed, morally vacuous, or just plain wrong."

Yeah Andrew Fox can go fuck off to be honest.

Once again, the "left" disgraces itself by siding with terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah and marching around with placards supporting the Iranian regime. Too bad the Government can't just round them up and deport them to Iran and Gaza.

You think the UK should get involved in this war?

Do you think the UK should be involved in the Ukraine? The answer is no. I don't think we should be involved in any war but the left siding with Iran is nauseating.

Is there anything in what he wrote you disagree with?

That’s if you even read it?

Someone with extensive military experience and knowledge in the UK forces, been in Gaza during the war multiple times, observed the IDF, and knows what he’s talking about.

Is there anyone better placed to give an opinion than you can think of? A journalist, medics who don’t witness anything, aid agencies with dubious allegiances to the Palestinian cause?

Please explain what knowledge I’m lacking. I’ll do my best to keep up.