To think the US was right to bomb Iran? What am I missing?

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I am no fan of Trump. I’m very much left wing.

But am I missing something here? Why has everyone become such huge supporters of Iran? The world is a safer place as a result of removing their capability to develop nuclear weapons? Why is everyone carrying on like Iran is a victim and they were truly just trying to implement peaceful nuclear capabilities? Has everyone lost the plot?

Over 70 years of constant occupation is one long unprovoked attack.

If you think Israel have treated the people of Gaza well in the years prior to the terrorist attack and that Netanyahu doesn't have the goal of ethnically cleansing the area then we clearly have opposing views.

Netanyahu is a war criminal, IMO.

As for the US, are we going to conveniently forget the Iraq debacle? You know, the last time we were told there was a nuclear facility that needed to be wiped out and then is transpired that there never was one?

A lot of this is about oil. Was with Iraq - is now.

Iran currently have control of the Straight of Hormuz and that won't sit well with the US in the slightest.

Both Iran and Israel need a regime change for the greater good but the US deciding who and who should not have nuclear weapons is nothing short of jokes when they developed them and are the only country to have ever used them.

No. I would very much prefer it not to.

I think the goal is to postpone Irans nuclear capabilities. Another despot regime will enter the fray afyer these bombings, and they will start to build their nuclear weapons again, which can take many years. So it's basically just kicking the can down the road. I doubt the US will have any appetite to install and police a more a acceptable regime.

How would you stop them?

Just Oman? Everyone has something to say about it. It's being reported across the world.

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-global/iran-block-strait-of-hormuz-4-points-explained-10081870/

yotally agree with the pps who point out that Isreal has killed Palestinians, invaded their land and stolen their homes for generations and that to me started it

the isrealis have ( until recently) killed 10 Palestinians for every isreali the Palestinians have managed to kill. That fed it.

pretending that the music festival started this is … well people who state this - it makes me disbelieve anything else they say as it’s such rubbish - incorrect

Can you explain please how Trump's actions are going to solve any of this?

Because if it was as simple as a few bombs being dropped and suddenly Iran is no longer a threat, no longer treats its citizens appallingly and routinely murders them, why didn't anyone think of doing it before now?

Iran blocking the strait of Hormuz will affect China more than anyone else.

Agree

Careful, your racism is showing

It was bombed to remove nuclear capability, not the regime.

So, the Iranian regime just starts over with the nuclear plans? And in another 5 years we will be having this discussion again?

What would you do?

I'm just so sad to see the UK believing that it is OK to attack another country for philosophical differences. I hate the government of El Salvador and my heart breaks for the Salvadoreans who live there. Argentina treats its people appallingly too. Should Sir Keir attack those countries too. And those are just ones that occur to me off the top of my head

Well, as others have said I would rather no-one, including Israel, had nuclear weapons. In fact, making sure Israel's nuclear capabilities were being properly monitored by the appropriate international agencies would be a good start. I don't think random bombing campaigns like we've just seen have any long term concrete benefits. It just cements the idea that some nations are above the law.

How do you do ‘diplomacy’ with a fundamentalist death cult that has a martyrdom ideology. keeps it’s own people prisoner and has slogans such as ‘Death to America, Death to England, Death to Israel’, and trains and funds terrorists around the world.

Iran has already plotted multiple terrorist attacks against the UK.

I don’t think Trump and Israel expect anything from the UK quite frankly, although we should be very grateful if regime collapse happens.

The US last used nuclear weapons 80 years ago in a World War. Not really relevant to today’s geopolitical landscape, especially with regard to international terrorism.

I wouldn’t call a real risk of nuclear weapons being used as ‘willy waving’. Should that risk have been ignored until the nukes were actually fired?

And what would you do about Iran's capability?

We'd all rather the weapons didn't exist but they do, so with that in mind, how would you resolve the Iran nuclear issue?

This thread is infuriating.

Really clearly for the people at the back: you can believe that Trump’s unauthorised bombing of Iran was a poor idea while simultaneously believing that Iran shouldn’t have nuclear weapons.

Both those things can be true. Wild, I know.

The US’ own intelligence said Iran wasn’t close to having a nuclear weapon. Years away. So why bomb now when Iran was showing signs of being open to negotiations?

I don’t have answers but Israel and the US are besties right now so I suspect that’s a contributory factor.

Also, I thought Trump was opposed to getting involved in conflict outside the US….?

Yes, we would all be happier if Iran’s nuclear capacity was removed but you can’t just bomb a country because you fancy it.

There was no imminent nuclear threat and no reason not to go through proper channels. Democracy matters but Trump repeatedly shows utter contempt for it.

And just to add insult to injury, it’s now looking increasingly likely that the bombs didn’t even hit Iran’s nuclear plants. Slow clap. Well done.

I hope the UK stays well out of this shit-show. This is a mess started by Trump in 2018 when he scrapped the Iran agreement and exacerbated by his decision to bomb the country last night.

Iran fund a number of terrorist organisations including Hamas and Hezzbolah, surely people aren’t supporting a country that fund proxy terror organisations around the world having nuclear weapons.

Are you completely ignorant of the Iranian regime? Do you think their people live in a free democracy?

There’s nothing philosophical about Iran developing a nuclear weapon! What on Earth?

The same people that support Hamas and organise ridiculous groups like "Queers for Palestine", probably.

So your answer to Iran developing nuclear weapons is to inspect Israel?

What would you do about Iran?