To think the US was right to bomb Iran? What am I missing?

[Lastu]

I am no fan of Trump. I’m very much left wing.

But am I missing something here? Why has everyone become such huge supporters of Iran? The world is a safer place as a result of removing their capability to develop nuclear weapons? Why is everyone carrying on like Iran is a victim and they were truly just trying to implement peaceful nuclear capabilities? Has everyone lost the plot?

So Trump.has done this because he wants to free the Iranians from the horrific regime? Why did he choose this moment in time? 🧐

Maybe Trump is suddenly very keen on women's rights and LGBT rights?

I think we’ve had more delicate assessments in the past. The JCPOA for example. I think many leaders for a long time have been concerned about the outcome of Iran getting this weapon.

I don’t think it’s a risk worth waiting for, as the longer there is to develop it the more emboldened Iran becomes.

its nothing to do with financial means, its to do with education and civilisation. A country that is ruled by a death cult religion, that gives few rights to women, that prevents people from changing from or leaving Islam, that stones women to death for adultery, often on the evidence of a couple of men. That gives women's evidence in court half the weight of men, that sentences gay people to death.... this type of country is neither educated or civilised.

Could he be morphing into a leftie libtard?

For anyone who doesn’t agree with the US strikes, do you believe it’s perfectly ok for Iran to have or develop nuclear weapons then?

So it is OK to bomb any country you don't actively support?

Some would rather mock than take it seriously.

@genesis92yes wondering too

The comment was made in response to pp saying only Islamic countries have fundamentalism. I posted an example of how this was wrong.

That doesn't mean that I agree with Irans regime, I don't. But the pot shouldn't call the kettle black in this case.

No and this has been explained sooooo many times now.

I agree OP!

Iran has provided funding, weapons, and training to Hamas since the early 1990s, something around $350m a year. In addition it provides military assistance to Russia to help it smack Ukraine, funds
Hezbollah’s war in Lebanon, the Houthi rebels in Yemen, the Shia militias in Iraq and the Pro-Assad militias in Syria. And oh, as a side dish routinely hangs women for the crime of adultery not to mention the many who have ‘disappeared’ for refusing to cover their bodies head to toe. Iran is ruled by a religious extremist who hates you, me and anything western and would quite happily blow us all up in pursuit of Islamic extremism ruling the world.

This is a good thing.

I agree @Lastu Then again, I also support Israel.

So what do you propose?

So not only are we more unsafe because of this bombing, it looks like we're all going to be considerably poorer because of it as well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14836175/Iranian-government-SHUT-Strait-Hormuz-closing-20-cent-global-oil-gas.html

Trump made it clear to thank God last night.

"Tomorrow, Gen. Caine, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, will have a press conference at 8 a.m. at the Pentagon. And I want to just thank everybody, and in particular, God.
"I want to just say, we love you, God, and we love our great military. Protect them. God bless the Middle East. God bless Israel, and god bless America. Thank you very much. Thank you."

Is the USA going down the fundamentalist route?

I don’t believe any country should have nuclear weapons

I see the only way round the problem is by communication howevrr slow and tedious and long it takes

I do not support bombing of American or British nuclear sites either bug I don’t think the world is better because we have them

it’s a kind of “while colonialism” all over again - we decide we have the right way of life and therefore we can boss everyone else around and tell them what to do because obviously they ard wrong ( I mean I do think they are wrong but I don’t think I have a right to force my ideas onto them ) and we can bomb them if they don’t toe the line and then say “but look how horrid they are to their own people” implying that this needs fixing by us - arrogant and morally wrong

Well I’ve looked through this thread and funnily enough haven’t seen an explanation yet

Hegseth was full of the God praise as well.

Definitely showing signs.

For those of you who support Israel/US action - can you explain what the long term goal is here? So, you bomb the crap out of Iran to get rid of the regime and then what? Install a friendly despot like the US did with the Shah? That worked out well in Iraq. Or do you destroy the regime and walk away leaving Iranians to rebuild their country as best they can? Maybe you can parachute in some tame exile to rule your new occupied territory?

I think the US will have done their research first. So I'm sure one of the deciding factors of them bombing Iran would be based on there being no capabilities left for Iran to retaliate with nuclear weapons. Otherwise it would have been madness as there's absolutely no doubt iran would have retaliated immediately with nuclear missiles.

And yet Israel has not launched ONE single unprovoked attack on the "palestinians" EVER. Not one. Name one....I'll wait.

Yeah I think Oman might have something to say about that. The DM really are scaremongering.

If you and others wanted to wait or do nothing what would the outcome be?

Do you think Iran having weapons would be ok?

No one has answered what they’d do

I'm no supporter of Iran's regime. At all.

But the US has shown that it will just act unilaterally, and stick two fingers up to everyone else attempting diplomacy. I hope they don't expect the UK to support military action when they've all but said they will have nothing to do with defending Ukraine, and Europe, from Putin.

Also, the only country in history to have used nuclear weapons on civilians is the US. A tad hypocritical to maintain the anti nuclear narrative when it comes to other countries, while maintaining a healthy stockpile yourself.

All this continued willy waving is doing is taking the world closer and closer to World War 3. Ironic, given that Trump accused Zelensky of gambling with it.