To think all MNers hate men?

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I’m a lesbian so I don’t date men and I like women both to have relationships with and as a species! I’m a feminist and share some of the views on men that seem to be very prevalent on MN. I don’t hate men though. I actually feel a bit sorry for boys and young men today growing up in a world that is very critical of them (a view which I’ll probably get flamed for which’ll further prove my point!) I struggle to understand some of the clear contempt and, often what appears to be hatred of men from straight women on here. How do you date/fancy/fall in love with them if you have such negative views of them? Or is it just that every single woman with these views just happens to have one of the good ones? I doubt it. Isn’t it not that different to a misogynistic straight man who hates women but is happy to date them (thereby pretty much objectifying them for their own needs)??

I do always find it very strange when women choose a forum dominated by other women in order to tell off these women for not centering men enough! It used to be called 'white knighting' back in the day, when men did it. I wonder what the equivalent is for women that do it.

I’ve seen hardly any posts about men in general. The title may read “Do all men….” But that usually relates to that OPs experience with men she has known personally. There was one that was more general last week, even then it wasn’t all men. but as the OP added posts it was obvious she had a problem with people she perceived to be of a lower class to her rather than men.

PPs have explained why you will see a lot of animosity towards men, including bias that women have developed through experience. I’m glad you didn’t understand. That suggests that neither you or women you know are part of the statistics that underpin women being very wary, if not hostile towards men.

I don't agree with this. I am with my DH because I want to be. I am financially secure without a partner. I own my own house. We are together because we are best friends.

This cuts deep.

Dick-pandering.

Excellent! Dick-pandering it shall be.

Nooooo, I love men, but I couldn’t eat a whole one.

I hate a lot of the men that are the subject of many posts on here. But that's because they are often lazy, sulky, financially abusive, unfaithful, sexually abusive, absent or neglectful fathers.

Most women who post on here, particularly on the AIBU or Relationships boards, do so because they are in a difficult situation with their husband or partner. It is rare that someone would post on here simply to sing the praises of their partner, although that does happen.

Isn't this thread a massive generalisation which is banned on MN?

There’s definitely a minority that do, whose response to every post about men’s behaviour is it’s unacceptable and LTB, rather than offer genuine relationship advice, which back in the day MN used be great for. Much more balanced and helpful. Now if a man so much as looks at you funny you are told to leave. Increasingly the people with genuinely healthy relationships are staying away from MN and advice is increasingly skewed.

I have never seen that! I’d be equally horrified

This is an offensive generalisation.

Since when ?

I couldn't agree more OP, but the result of the poll clearly supports your hypothesis.

Yep. The stark difference in responses for near identical posts are eye opening, if one is posted by a woman and one is posted by a man. You can be a woman who doesn't work or reduces their hours and its fine but if a man does it, he's lazy.

I'm a woman btw, despite my username.

I assume OP is just bored on a hot afternoon!

A lot of people do express pure hatred toward man on here. The venom and pure hatred absolutely drips from their posts. I sometimes wonder if some of them have made such poor choices to cause such hatred or if they’ve just never had a relationship full stop.

No, not at all. I hate lazy, feckless, sexist, misogynistic man babies with zero emotional intelligence but then I also hate the female equivalent

I have a male DP, many male friends and relatives and I love them all

Yes! Yes we do, we hate ALL men, every single one!! Our fathers, brothers, sons, uncles, the bloke next door, the bloke over the road, in fact everything male - bulls, cockerels, rams, all of them should be up against a wall

I mean FFS

How so?

No doubt even if the result of the poll was 70%, YANBU, some people would say,

”See???? The shameless, bitter old trouts even admit it!”

🙄

I think it’s just personal experiences. I’ve had great men in my life - family, friends, dh, colleagues.
the worst experiences have been women so I’m not a sisterhood kind of person. I wouldn’t automatically take a woman’s side.

I don't think that having male relatives or loved ones proves much - every raging misogynist loves his mum and 'adores' women.

It's certainly the case that most MNers fall over themselves to blame or criticise men, in situations where, if the sexes were reversed, the woman would almost always, at a minimum, be given the benefit of the doubt.

And vice versa. Men are never, ever, called trashy, cheap or home wreckers.