It's gone 10pm and the neighbours are still making noise in the garden

[Donaldduck22]

My alarm goes off for a 12 hour shift in 7 hours. It's Thursday night. Why are some people so unbelievably inconsiderate.

Noise cancelling headphones

Well clearly they're not "chatting quietly" or OP wouldn't be disturbed by quiet chat....

Yes, it was barely dusk at 10pm last night. I was in my garden until after midnight (silently reading on my Kindle with a cold drink, before anyone loses their shit) and the birds were still singing until about 10.30pm. There's a family of magpies living in my neighbours' conifer tree who were still squawking and chattering away. It was still 23C at gone midnight too.

And this people is what we're up against........

I couldn't sleep with earplugs, also known to cause ear problems. Ears aren't meant to have things stuck inside them.

Get over it.

10pm isn't particularly late to go to bed - I choose to go up nineish to start relaxing for the night, but I'd expect people to start having consideration for their neighbours after 10pm and be quiet, especially on a weekday night.

What? Effective earplugs do block out the sound of an alarm, at least partially.

I love hearing people out in their gardens when I’m in bed. No idea why! I find it comforting.

Any chat outdoors at night sounds a lot louder than you think, so it's very possible she was disturbed by quiet chat. It really carries. There's not much to be done about it though - we can't outlaw al fresco conversation in the evenings to account for it.

Always call out of your window asking them to turn it off. I do this and so far no one has beaten me up.

Someone starting their car can cause people not to sleep so should they have to walk?

I hear you totally. Posters behaviour is so often vile on here when an OP is often pretty vulnerable. I'm certainly stuck for an appropriate description I'll be honest. Difference of opinion does not cut it at all.

I do understand why OP would come here. It is a really tricky and delicate situation and some people don't have great assertiveness skills. I really had to question myself and my feelings about really annoying and inconsiderate neighbour behaviour.

If people didn't struggle to know how best to ask or try at least express themselves there wouldn't be so many posts - including the parking ones, we have on MN endlessly.

I'm so glad I did come here for solace ref my own problem. No CF behaviour which was a comfort. I told my neighbours again. And then I told them again, and they're ok so far and have addressed most of it. 🙏

Some neighbours are nuts. It is a scary concept thinking you could set off a long-standing war. Some people sadly really enjoy that I do believe.

It's one evening for possibly a few hours, with no suggestion from the OP that this is an every night thing. I'm sure if she was that desperate to sleep then earplugs would suffice for a while. Or she can stay awake and complain.

But it wasn't 'a proud assertion' and going to bed after 10pm isn't 'late' for an adult.

The fact that you interpreted a comment about a normal adult bedtime as some sort of boast is what's odd.

I mean, why would you think that was a 'proud assertion'? It's no more a 'proud assertion' than saying 'I usually have toast for breakfast' or 'I've never owned a cat' - it's just a very neutral statement of ordinary fact that applies to a lot of people.

It's not remotely unusual or exceptional for adults to go to bed after 10pm and if you think 'I never go to bed at 10pm' is some sort of outlandish claim that must be a form of bravado, then your thought process is, indeed, odd.

I actually laughed out loud at this. You definitely haven't met many surgeons or airline pilots if you think they're quiet, subdued people who are silent after 9pm. I know a lot of surgeons and trust me, it is not a profession known for a) being quiet and going to bed early or b) thinking of others before themselves.

And surely airline pilots leave home and return at all sorts of hours. That's definitely not a 9-5 job

What a horribly judgemental and totally incorrect post

The OP's username suggests they might be a man, and thus always at fault in any situation.

Law is pretty clear

You can make reasonable noise until 11pm and after 7am

Enjoying your garden, unless excessively loud music and screaming, is fine before 11pm

Banging your pot lids at 5am would be unreasonable

@Rosscameasdoody

Yep, spoke with them politely three times about the level of noise they are making and how it is affecting us. They don't care.

We now report every incident with the local authority. And I dread every Saturday...

😂

Neither is a surgeon

They will be working all sorts of unusual hours, coming home at different times etc

Only on mumsnet is 10pm soooooo early. Yes I get it's not that late but I don't think it's early either. I think if you had loud music on it would be time to start quietening down on a weeknight, and also yes we don't get to do it much so make the most of it but some consideration for others wouldn't go amiss.

Somehow everyone on here is up till 4am, manage 2 hours sleep, off to there very high paying professional job, numerous hobbies every night of the week 😂 meanwhile in the real world I would say 10pm-midnight is a very normal bed time.

Why only weeknights though? What about consideration for those getting up early on weekend mornings