It's gone 10pm and the neighbours are still making noise in the garden

[Donaldduck22]

My alarm goes off for a 12 hour shift in 7 hours. It's Thursday night. Why are some people so unbelievably inconsiderate.

Most people aren’t though. If it’s a one off then 10pm isn’t too late. It’s not their fault you work shifts.

Just so you know, I use earplugs regularly, foam ones that expand to fit your ear? And I have my alarm nearby and I always hear it. Not relevant to this situation but in case it happens again in the future. X

@Donaldduck22 you are coming across as a selfish person.
The world doesn't stop because YOU work.

Now that is unreasonable! There are different noise rules for noisy outdoor work.

I agree, you have to accept a certain amount of noise especially from children. Generally I wouldn’t complain about normal playing noise, but there is a point when it crosses from that to just screaming for the sake of screaming. That I do mind. There is a distinct difference and as a parent I have taught my children where that line lies. I wish all parents did the same, but some just seem to either not hear it or choose not to.

Lol someone has to live next door to the pub ( even on a residential street sometimes). So do they think they ought to tell pubgoers that chatting after 10 pm isn't allowed?

How ironic!

This is where I have found the white noise app useful. It stops when my phone alarm sounds so I don’t miss it.

Different people need to deal with their own shit and not expect everyone to pander to their schedule of needs.

10pm isn’t late for a lot of people. If it’s late for you, then find a solution that helps you sleep.

Not most of us though. Sadly the world doesn't revolve around your particular needs. 10 pm is not that unreasonable.

Jeez louise - first warm sunny evening in a long while, too hot to sleep inside for most of us at that hour, and then dripfeeding (earplugs don't work, child distressed by noises, alluding to different health conditions etc.). STILL doesn't mean the world will revolve around you and your long working weeks and early starts. Being considerate of others (as you're so keen on) also means thinking of others too from your own perch. Warm, sunny evening, 10 PM not being that bloody late -- how often do we get to enjoy that? AND sound does travel v. easily when the traffic noise etc. has died down.
If your child has special needs and gets distressed by noise, surely that applies before 10 PM as well, so not really the neighbours' fault either. I GET that it's hard, but noise at any time would presumably yield a similar reaction?

It wasn't 2 AM and drunken cooking sherry shouting, still almost light at 10 PM, and it's summer. Finally!

It's clouding over today - you'll get your rest. And it will be cold and raining soon enough.

So Op getting up at 5am and being loud isn't going to be a problem then?
Noise at 10pm is selfish.

Personally I would be out at 5am with saucepan lids 😂

Okay but have you ever talked to them? If I knew my neighbour was up at 5, I would be considerate. If they have no idea then they’re not being inconsiderate. They’re not mind readers. I know my neighbour works late Wednesday/ Thursday so likes a lie in Friday, so on a Friday morning I try to keep the kids out the garden. If she’d never spoken to me I wouldn’t know, so I’d probably let them out earlier.

It's weird what people will complain about.

My NDNs complained to me about the noise of my ex's van starting at 7am, Mon-Fri. (Note that they didn't complain to him, just me!) His job had an 8am start time and was an hour's drive away, so there was sod all either of us could do about it. And it had to be parked on private property overnight because there was a lot of expensive kit on it.

I often wonder if they also complained about a guy along the road, who also had a noisy diesel van, but went to work at 5am.

Most people aren’t though. This is a you problem. Especially since you’re determined not to do anything to mitigate it.

yeah mine do it at 2am🙄

That's not their problem. 10:00 PM is not late I'd be more sympathetic if it was gone midnight. Get some earplugs in

Yes, I thought that was extreme too!

I have a friend who lives overseas but stays here when she's in the UK. She grinds coffee beans at 7 am for her first cuppa, and it makes an almighty racket. She'd have to leave it an hour and go uncaffeinated...

Well aren't you the toughest of the tough.

I work crazy and unpredictable hours and I also wear industrial-standard earplugs (snoring husband). I'm also a pretty deep sleeper. I do still hear my alarm when it goes off. I can understand why you might not want to risk it tomorrow morning but if you haven't tried earplugs I'd give them a go. They're a sanity saver for me. (I love him very deeply but he sounds like a plane taking off.)

Not always! I live on the very edge of a small town. Two guys along the road used to go and get pissed play snooker every Thursday evening.

The noise they made toddling back at midnight was only talking and laughing. but fuck me, they were really loud. They often woke me up, but I never dreamed of complaining. They were only talking, after all. (Actually, I mostly used to chuckle, because they were rarely making any sense.)

But you're not being considerate to anyone if you expect everyone else to whisper or go indoors early on a hot summer evening just because you happen to get up at 5am and apparently can't wear earplugs, use a vibrating alarm or tolerate anything other than complete silence to get to sleep.

You have to be considerate to others too and accept that your preferences don't always trump other people's right to lead a perfectly normal life.

If your alarm also goes off at 5am and you can manage in 5 or 6 hours of sleep and then do a 12 hour shift on your feet then I'm impressed.

I've done that many, many times. Happy to have impressed you.

What an odd thing to say.

what's really odd is your proud assertion about how late you go to bed.

It also depends on who you live with. A road full of professionals that work for a living and are raised well, would be considerate certainly after 10pm. Especially if they have professions such as surgeons, air line pilots etc.
Even if it is for the sake of young babies and children resting in their beds we would always keep the noise to an absolute minimum after 9pm mid week. We have raised our children to consider others too.

A road full of benefit claimants that do not work, and never need to be anywhere in the mornings might be less in tune with normal life, and I can see why that might be a problem.