It's gone 10pm and the neighbours are still making noise in the garden

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My alarm goes off for a 12 hour shift in 7 hours. It's Thursday night. Why are some people so unbelievably inconsiderate.

Well great but what about all the kids that need to get up for school, and in many cases do exams, are they a minority too? Noisy, inconsiderate behaviour disrupts them at night also.

Exactly. Being considerate goes both ways and there is nothing wrong with ‘enjoying the weather’ with a bit of hard rock music at 5am to get the party started nice and early 😂

Which is sad, really, because I remember a time when British people weren’t. I don’t know exactly what has happened over the span of my lifetime but we seem to have gone from a society where people thought about the feelings of others over their own to an entirely selfish ‘fuck you, I’ll do whatever I like and if you don’t like it that’s your problem’ mentality. I miss manners.

It was a nice evening and I get neighbour noise can be irritating but they’re doing absolutely nothing wrong! It isn’t anybody else’s problem that you have to be up at 5am. If someone worked nights you wouldn’t be quiet all day in your garden to allow them to sleep in silence.

By that argument no one should make any noise, ever, as someone is always one or two hours from their alarm. Some people work nights/weekends too!

10pm isn't too late, i doubt they're even being that loud. When I worked shifts I hated my neighvour having a huge summer house built with works starting at 7am but I just had to put up with it because that's what comes with living alongside others.

Depends what noise OP.

Blaring music out = unacceptable (it is at any hour)

Screeching and hollering = Also unacceptable past 10pm in my opinion.

Just sat chatting in the garden on a hot stuffy day in the cool? Making normal noises as you would moving around and interacting with people = I think that’s fine

If you’re expecting your neighbours to come in out of the garden at 10pm on a beautiful sunny evening because you’re up early for work, then I think you’re the one who needs to have a bit more consideration. If they’re playing loud music that’s a different matter, but just generally enjoying their garden - no YABU.

Blaring music and screeching and hollering is unacceptable at any time imo. If people want to listen to blaring music they should wear bloody earphones.

I don’t think anyone is denying OP’s experience. She’s up at 5 and her neighbours are still enjoying their garden at 10pm. That’s fact. The disagreement is regarding what’s reasonable and what’s not. And while not denying the OP her very real experience, I think if the neighbours are just making a level of noise expected from the enjoyment of their garden on a lovely sunny evening, then it’s unreasonable to expect them to curtail that activity as early as 10pm. Consideration works both ways. If they’re truly making excessive noise, instead of complaining to MN why doesn’t OP politely ask them to tone it down a bit and explain she has to be up early, instead of lying there seething.

What sort of noise were they making? Talking? Or music? Drunken screaming? It all depends.

Mumsnet is so bizarre about noise. It’s the only thing people aren’t uptight about but in reality it’s so intrusive! People should be more considerate of the effect it has on those around them. YANBU.

Also, wasn’t it fairly dark at 10pm? Hardly lovely and sunny.

And they’ll do nothing unless they consider the noise to be excessive. Which, if it’s just the normal sounds of your neighbours enjoying their home and garden, it’s unlikely to be.

I get up at 5am to work a 10 hr shift at Amazon. I’m still up past 10pm especially in nice weather. I use ear plugs and I always hear the alarm. You will too.

I live surrounded by young children so although I do agree about the hollering and screeching, I’ve had to pick my battles for my sanity.

Wasn’t that dark here at 10pm, and it was very warm. We were sitting in the garden until past eleven, so were our neighbours both sides, and many people have garden lighting. I think it’s all about what’s reasonable, and if the noise levels aren’t excessive then l don’t see how OP can expect the neighbours to cut their evening short because she has to get up early.

Well actually the kids doing exams are a bloody minority. The exams pretty much finished anyway..

And smaller kids surely are used to sleeping through a bit of noise. M y DD is living in the middle of noisy roadworks that have been going on for months Drilling etc starts at 7. Doesn't wake the kids.

And tbh the OP hasn't specified whether the neighbours we're chatting and laughing or having a full scale race. There's a big difference

Which, if her neighbours aren’t making excessive noise, is entirely OP’s problem.

Sadly 11pm to 7am is when garden noise needs to stop.

I feel for you. My neighbours are forever having parties (Filipinos are like this). Garden noise is typically ok - they were visited many times by EHOs in tgeir previous house) but its people leaving in the am that Ps me off. I lost it recently with the younger crowd - we're on a private road and they park outside my house. We'll its been deathly quiet since!!! Seems to me speaking to them might help.

Good luck.

BTW you can hear alarms with earplugs. Maybe turn it up a little and make more noise when you get up.

Put on a sleep podcast and set a timer. There’s some good ones on BBC sounds.

My neighbour loves to go out at about 11 every night with her partner for their last smoke of the day. I listen to boring stories or the sleeping forecast and I’m soon fast asleep.

This. It’s really antisocial to make noise in your garden late at night on a weeknight when people have their windows open and work the next day. And sounds really carry on a summer night.

The witching hour ? 10pm ? Really ? We were in the garden until gone eleven last night, as were our neighbours - chatting and pottering, and generally enjoying the weather. What on earth leads you to believe that that constitutes being a ‘pie head’ and not having any manners ? OP hasn’t elaborated on what the noise levels were but you’ve jumped straight to excessive. They have a right to enjoy their home and if the noise isn’t excessive then OP will just have to learn to live with it. Very apt username by the way.

So we should all have a 10pm curfew then ? Just so we don’t accidentally upset anyone ? Batshit.

See, this kind of response hacks me right off!! Why should the OP have to do that? They should tone it right down after 10!

Tone what down though? A chat? A noisy party? OP hasn't specified what the noise is