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8 year old has to stay in to study

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Swimmingwithoutfloats · 19/06/2025 15:28

My Dd, 7 has a best friend on the road who she loves to play with. They often play together some weekends and occasionally in the evenings in summer.
He hasn’t been able to play out at our house or his due to tests at school.
Every time my Dd has knocked on, he’s said he has to stay in because there are tests at school at the moment and he has to do work. He loves very sad
Its been beautiful weather and Dd and another friend on the street have invited him for bike rides or to play on the trampoline or to swim in the pool and he isn’t allowed.
He stays fairly late at school, then goes to clubs/football etc, comes home, does homework and goes to bed.

Often at the weekend, he says he can’t play and sits in doing video games

Aibu to wonder why he can’t just play with his friends and be a child?

OP posts:
Swimmingwithoutfloats · 19/06/2025 22:46

Ilovelurchers · 19/06/2025 22:38

OP, I think you've rightly intuited that there is an element of class prejudice going on here.

Some posters have assumed that, because you describe an integrated local community, children being allowed some freedom to socialise, etc, you must be working class and therefore ought not dare to criticise the voices of your middle class superiors - if they want to hothouse their child and raise him away from sunlight and the pernicious influence of society, that is there absolute right, if not duty, as High Earners.

They probably think your daughter will be giving him rides on the XL bully, and letting him have a puff on her Raspberry Sour vape........

(Just to be clear, I am satirising - I despise all forms of class prejudice, have no idea what class either OP or the boy's parents are, and am confident it matters not one jot in this instance. But I think this is at the root of a lot of the hate you are getting here.

(Mumsnet can be so great for some things and you find such lovely women,. But the right wing, pro- libertarian threads really depress me.....)

😂😂Yes, exactly this, which is why I reluctantly said about all the parents being middle class (very middle class-these are real swimming pools, not blow up ones) but I felt a bit uncomfortable saying exactly what the area is like. It’s a very wealthy area, where the children just happen to play together at each other’s homes and gardens and sometimes in the woods with the parents and dogs and on their bikes or scooters.
But really, that shouldn’t matter one iota, if it was a council estate and a great community of kids growing up and forming friendships too, that would be a positive too surely

OP posts:
Caerulea · 19/06/2025 23:46

Ilovelurchers · 19/06/2025 22:38

OP, I think you've rightly intuited that there is an element of class prejudice going on here.

Some posters have assumed that, because you describe an integrated local community, children being allowed some freedom to socialise, etc, you must be working class and therefore ought not dare to criticise the voices of your middle class superiors - if they want to hothouse their child and raise him away from sunlight and the pernicious influence of society, that is there absolute right, if not duty, as High Earners.

They probably think your daughter will be giving him rides on the XL bully, and letting him have a puff on her Raspberry Sour vape........

(Just to be clear, I am satirising - I despise all forms of class prejudice, have no idea what class either OP or the boy's parents are, and am confident it matters not one jot in this instance. But I think this is at the root of a lot of the hate you are getting here.

(Mumsnet can be so great for some things and you find such lovely women,. But the right wing, pro- libertarian threads really depress me.....)

Nailed it! Though I'd say the left/right thing is far overpowered by the working/middle class thing.

RampantIvy · 19/06/2025 23:59

I didn't know it was such an alien idea for children to call for each other until this thread, or that people found it annoying. I thought this was a universal thing all children did.

Only on mumsnet. There are a disproportionate number of socially awkward people who have a drawbridge instead of a front door, which they won't answer and get offended if someone rings their phone or doorbell.

When DD was little I didn't call having friends round playdates. It was just having a friend come to play, often spontaneously.

PollyBell · 20/06/2025 00:55

Maybe they dont want your child to keep on knocking?

NJLX2021 · 20/06/2025 03:11

They probably look at you and think that the way you are raising your daughter is sad.

I live in a culture that would hold that family up as an example of excellent parenting, and look down on you for not providing your child with as much support and help.

Are they right? Or are you right? Will your child be happier? Will theirs get better grades? Who will lead the best life?

You are welcome to have an opinion on the answer to those questions, and it is an interesting debate. But only if the whole judgmental framing of the post, and the "let kids be kids" moral superiority is reduced a bit.

WhereHasMyPlanetGone · 20/06/2025 07:14

When DD was little I didn't call having friends round playdates. It was just having a friend come to play, often spontaneously

Well, language constantly evolves. And ‘having a friend come to play’ (which is what it was called when I was a child) is basically what people now call a play date. Calling it something different doesn’t change the premise.
Granted, it seems to be more difficult now for these things to happen spontaneously, but IME that’s because so many families have two full time working parents now and more children are in wrap around care. Therefore these things have to be planned and organised in advance for days off etc.

Anemone52 · 20/06/2025 07:33

The judgment here started with the OP, who wasn’t content to think negatively about her neighbours, but felt the need to involve everyone here as well. There’s no flexibility in her thinking as she’s the expert on the situation and anyone offering an explanation must be wrong.

OP, if you’re seriously worried about the well-being of the child, do something about it. In real life. Coming here and criticising the parents makes your motive seem disingenuous in comparison.

SunnySideDeepDown · 20/06/2025 08:17

Ilovelurchers · 19/06/2025 22:28

Do you really really mean this? That you think people effectively own their children, and can treat them anyway they like, and you would never do anything to interfere, you wouldn't even disapprove? They could beat them, they could keep them off school to do fruit picking, they could refuse to let them learn to read because they think the written word is dangerous.....

And you would be just fine with all of that?

Why?

I'm also shocked by the idea that you think 8 year olds should never make any decisions. They are people too! Surely we build up decision making in our kids gradually, so that they learn to make good decisions in adulthood - there are plenty of things an 8 year old should have a day in, I think. And how they spend their leisure time is one of them! Not saying that they should have absolutely free choice over a limitless supply of alternatives obviously (and nor is that practical) but I think it's ENTIRELY appropriate, if your 8 year old has a couple of hours free on a Saturday afternoon, to let THEM choose between playing with friends, playing in their room, craft activity with dad or watching a film with mom, say....... That way, they start to learn that choosing one thing can mean missing out on another, that sometimes we are swayed by the wrong considerations etc etc.....

I really do feel there seems to be some kind of widespread cultural shift towards treating children like fragile and completely incapable automata, in some sections of society these days......

Your response is over dramatic and bombastic.

RampantIvy · 20/06/2025 08:19

SunnySideDeepDown · 20/06/2025 08:17

Your response is over dramatic and bombastic.

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/06/2025 08:28

My DS often tells friends he can't play for various reasons, usually made up in the spot.

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