Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Showing support for terrorism is illegal so why do people do it?

724 replies

Nowayyousure · 19/06/2025 11:36

Well we all know it's illegal, don't we?

It happens though. The flags, the signs, the slogans, the chants, what is said etc.

Kneecap was charged on supporting terrorism. I understand that the charges relate to things like waving the Hezbollah flag and shouting in support of terrorist organisations.

He has been bailed pending trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

A close-up of a man in the midst of a crowd. He is wearing sunglasses and a black and white keffiyeh headdress around his neck like a scarf. A crowd is around him. You can see Irish tricolours in the background

Kneecap rapper released on unconditional bail over terror charge

Kneecap's Liam Óg Ó hAnnaidh, aka Mo Chara, is accused of displaying a flag in support of proscribed organisation Hezbollah.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

OP posts:
Thread gallery
12
Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 08:34

Nowayyousure · 12/07/2025 15:54

Missing the laughing emoji. Agree it's so try hard. "Look at me, I support Kneecap and that other twat"

Even the name, Kneecap is juvenile. It doesn't surprise me, the rappers have adopted a violent action to represent its 'singing'.

Aaron95 · 13/07/2025 10:35

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 08:34

Even the name, Kneecap is juvenile. It doesn't surprise me, the rappers have adopted a violent action to represent its 'singing'.

Juvenile. I'd say it rather clever for a band which is sining songs about growing up in Belfast, Irish republicanism and Irish language rights. You may want to research why they chose it.

The name Kneecap is a word play, referring to both the practice of kneecapping, which Republican paramilitaries would inflict on what they described as "political" and "normal" criminals, and the Irish phrase "ní cheapaim" meaning "I don't think so"

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 10:58

The lack of shame of the English in not knowing that there are other languages spoken in Britain and the British Isles is quite astounding. I don't there there are many other peoples who would have the brass neck to enter another country and then ignorantly berate them for speaking their own language.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-36580448

Obviously we'll put to one side the underlying arrogance which is a given in England (they must still teach it in schools). However it might just explain why some corners of these isles are slightly hacked off with the English and their ways.

Tom Bradbury posted about the bus incident on Facebook

Welsh woman on bus shuts down racist who told Muslim passenger to 'speak English'

A Muslim woman is told she "should really be speaking English" by a stranger - she was actually speaking Welsh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-36580448

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 11:15

Aaron95 · 13/07/2025 10:35

Juvenile. I'd say it rather clever for a band which is sining songs about growing up in Belfast, Irish republicanism and Irish language rights. You may want to research why they chose it.

The name Kneecap is a word play, referring to both the practice of kneecapping, which Republican paramilitaries would inflict on what they described as "political" and "normal" criminals, and the Irish phrase "ní cheapaim" meaning "I don't think so"

I know its history and it reflects the mentality of the rappers. It's not clever at all.

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 11:16

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 10:58

The lack of shame of the English in not knowing that there are other languages spoken in Britain and the British Isles is quite astounding. I don't there there are many other peoples who would have the brass neck to enter another country and then ignorantly berate them for speaking their own language.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-36580448

Obviously we'll put to one side the underlying arrogance which is a given in England (they must still teach it in schools). However it might just explain why some corners of these isles are slightly hacked off with the English and their ways.

Relevance to this thread is?

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 11:32

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 11:16

Relevance to this thread is?

Amusement at bilingual wordplay sir.

Insanityisnotastrategy · 13/07/2025 11:38

Aaron95 · 13/07/2025 10:35

Juvenile. I'd say it rather clever for a band which is sining songs about growing up in Belfast, Irish republicanism and Irish language rights. You may want to research why they chose it.

The name Kneecap is a word play, referring to both the practice of kneecapping, which Republican paramilitaries would inflict on what they described as "political" and "normal" criminals, and the Irish phrase "ní cheapaim" meaning "I don't think so"

Yes, it must be fine for them to call for people to kill their local MP, because they made an Excellent Pun.

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 11:41

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 11:32

Amusement at bilingual wordplay sir.

So no relevance then. More like a shoehorning of xenophobia.

Superfoodie123 · 13/07/2025 11:42

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 11:48

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

People are so outraged, that they are stupid enough to be doing the devil's work for him.

SerendipityJane · 13/07/2025 11:50

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 11:41

So no relevance then. More like a shoehorning of xenophobia.

If you say so, sir.

Superfoodie123 · 13/07/2025 15:08

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 17:38

It shocks me that you've been so easily taken in. Quit the dramatic language - its faux naivety is embarrassing.

Nowayyousure · 14/07/2025 15:34

Maybe it's a way for some white people to reject their privilege - hit out at the West, the bad people. Rebel. Scream at the democracy and support the 'resistance', ignore that rape, kidnap and murder is involved in said 'resistance'. Afterall the awful Israel deserve it. Scream at Jewish people in the UK. March near their homes and businesses and make them feel unsafe - well it's their fault after all (sarcasm since it obviously isn't). Post all over social media about the conflict, spend hours sharing and ranting but ignore every other conflict going on or any other people suffering (that's all irrelevant of course).

Anybody that attempts to explain 'both sides' perspective must be ignored, called supporters of killing of innocents. Ignore anything that doesn't fit the narrative of Gaza good, victim, right and Israel bad, wrong, oppressor.

Show support for a terrorist organisation in a land in the middle east, that run their country into the ground, demand aid to feed, educate, clothe, provide for the people (from the West and other countries, I mean why should they contribute to anything) whilst spending money they have on attacking another country, building tunnels or keeping it in bank accounts in other countries. A country where the rights of women and other groups are not treated equal to men. Make sure that Palestinians are kept completely with a victim status and not encouraged to move on to bigger and better things (they could have agreed to a 2 state solution many, many years ago and progressed but hey ho...)

Then same terrorist organisation conduct constant missile strikes into another neighbouring country then perpetual whinging that said country put up a blockade to protect themselves and have bomb shelters and missiles to shoot down said missiles.

Must not shout out against terrorist organisation and ask them to release hostages and surrender but insist the country responding to their attacks to stop and ignore that hostages are still being held. Instead, tear down posters of hostages. They are not victims only the Palestinians are victims (perpetually).

Make sure that women and children not be taken to any safe area whilst the conflict plays out but keep them right in the middle of it. Other countries nearby must not offer sanctuary for the innocent people since they are to be used to further the aims of the terrorist leaders.

🙄

OP posts:
Miri13 · 14/07/2025 15:37

You do realise the French resistance would be considered terrorist’s by today’s standards.

cakeorwine · 14/07/2025 15:39

Miri13 · 14/07/2025 15:37

You do realise the French resistance would be considered terrorist’s by today’s standards.

They were considered terrorists by the Nazis,

And Freedom Fighters by many other people.

SerendipityJane · 14/07/2025 15:48

cakeorwine · 14/07/2025 15:39

They were considered terrorists by the Nazis,

And Freedom Fighters by many other people.

When I first visited Paris, I was struck by the fact that people put flowers into the bullet holes where resistance fighters were summarily executed.

Had the Nazis invaded Britain, how many here would sign up to assassinating their leaders - and UK citizens who collaborated with them ? Because (shock horror) not only were there people who were prepared to do that. There were special units set up in order to do exactly that. With volunteers accepting they'd probably be shot within a week or two.

As a rarely invaded and only twice occupied people, the English are privileged to have a rather unique view of international turf wars.

Nowayyousure · 14/07/2025 16:17

Miri13 · 14/07/2025 15:37

You do realise the French resistance would be considered terrorist’s by today’s standards.

You must realise that the French resistance were fighting an invasion of their country during a war.

You must realise that Palestine Action Group are not fighting a war in the UK. The UK hasn't been invaded. There is no need for people to fight an invasion in the UK because there isn't one.

OP posts:
Nowayyousure · 14/07/2025 16:20

SerendipityJane · 14/07/2025 15:48

When I first visited Paris, I was struck by the fact that people put flowers into the bullet holes where resistance fighters were summarily executed.

Had the Nazis invaded Britain, how many here would sign up to assassinating their leaders - and UK citizens who collaborated with them ? Because (shock horror) not only were there people who were prepared to do that. There were special units set up in order to do exactly that. With volunteers accepting they'd probably be shot within a week or two.

As a rarely invaded and only twice occupied people, the English are privileged to have a rather unique view of international turf wars.

If the UK were invaded and at war then people would fight back. However, you must realise that we are not at war and that we haven't been invaded so absolutely nothing like people remembering the sacrifice of their own people defending their homeland from invaders. It's really not that difficult to see the difference!

OP posts:
Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 16:24

SerendipityJane · 14/07/2025 15:48

When I first visited Paris, I was struck by the fact that people put flowers into the bullet holes where resistance fighters were summarily executed.

Had the Nazis invaded Britain, how many here would sign up to assassinating their leaders - and UK citizens who collaborated with them ? Because (shock horror) not only were there people who were prepared to do that. There were special units set up in order to do exactly that. With volunteers accepting they'd probably be shot within a week or two.

As a rarely invaded and only twice occupied people, the English are privileged to have a rather unique view of international turf wars.

You really don't like the English, do you?

SerendipityJane · 14/07/2025 16:32

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 16:24

You really don't like the English, do you?

Some of my best friends are English ...

Miri13 · 14/07/2025 16:43

Nowayyousure · 14/07/2025 16:17

You must realise that the French resistance were fighting an invasion of their country during a war.

You must realise that Palestine Action Group are not fighting a war in the UK. The UK hasn't been invaded. There is no need for people to fight an invasion in the UK because there isn't one.

You’re so obviously a plant. You’re ridiculous.

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 16:43

SerendipityJane · 14/07/2025 16:32

Some of my best friends are English ...

Ah, well we know how the I have black friends rhetoric goes...

Dangermoo · 14/07/2025 16:43

Miri13 · 14/07/2025 16:43

You’re so obviously a plant. You’re ridiculous.

🙄

Nowayyousure · 14/07/2025 16:51

Miri13 · 14/07/2025 16:43

You’re so obviously a plant. You’re ridiculous.

I give a simple explanation to your ridiculous claim comparing resistance of a country (France) that was invaded by the Nazi's during wartime to a group that are causing damage and mayhem in a country that hasn't been invaded and is not at war (UK) and you say I'm 'a plant'.

Planted by whom exactly? What nonsense conspiracy theory are you going to spout now. I'm an individual who just happens to have read your rubbish and called out the ridiculousness of your comparison and because you are unable to answer the 'call out' you shout 'plant'. Oh dear, it's pathetic and laughable.

OP posts: