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Showing support for terrorism is illegal so why do people do it?

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Nowayyousure · 19/06/2025 11:36

Well we all know it's illegal, don't we?

It happens though. The flags, the signs, the slogans, the chants, what is said etc.

Kneecap was charged on supporting terrorism. I understand that the charges relate to things like waving the Hezbollah flag and shouting in support of terrorist organisations.

He has been bailed pending trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

A close-up of a man in the midst of a crowd. He is wearing sunglasses and a black and white keffiyeh headdress around his neck like a scarf. A crowd is around him. You can see Irish tricolours in the background

Kneecap rapper released on unconditional bail over terror charge

Kneecap's Liam Óg Ó hAnnaidh, aka Mo Chara, is accused of displaying a flag in support of proscribed organisation Hezbollah.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

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soupyspoon · 21/06/2025 23:01

Snowstorming · 21/06/2025 22:34

I never said any of that?

If Hamas attacks Israelis who oppress Palestinians, what makes you think Palestinians would condemn Hamas? Again, expecting perfect victims in the middle of a full blown genocide

I dont think Palestinians do condemn Hamas, I believe they support them. But there has been denial about that in thread after thread after thread.

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 23:06

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tramtracks · 21/06/2025 23:27

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This is incorrect. There is clear irrefutable evidence of rape and sexual assault before murder. There was and is no justification for such attack against civilians.

Martymcfly24 · 21/06/2025 23:41

tramtracks · 21/06/2025 23:27

This is incorrect. There is clear irrefutable evidence of rape and sexual assault before murder. There was and is no justification for such attack against civilians.

Using rape as an instrument of violence during conflict is completely wrong and disgusting and you are correct Hamas did do this on October 7th. There is evidence of this.

Conversely the Israeli Human Rights Organization B'Tslem released a report on systematic Israeli abuse, torture, sexual violence and rape of Palestinian detainees, calling the Israeli prison system a "network of torture camps.

The UN Human Rights Commission also released a report stating "Acts of sexual violence such as compulsory nudity, rape threats and sexual assault "comprise part of the Israeli Security Forces' standard operating procedures toward Palestinians"

There is no justification for the rape and sexual abuse of either Israeli or Palestinian civilians.

GretaGreen · 21/06/2025 23:48

soupyspoon · 21/06/2025 23:01

I dont think Palestinians do condemn Hamas, I believe they support them. But there has been denial about that in thread after thread after thread.

And surveys show that the vast majority of Israelis are pro the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. Nearly half of them support the killing of all Palestinians in Gaza. It doesn't mean they and their children should all be starved, displaced, tortured, raped and blown up does it, at least I hope that you don't feel that way. I don't thats what should happen to them and so obviously I don't support it happening to Palestinians or anyone else either.

devourfeculence · 22/06/2025 00:07

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You're comparing the victims of October 7th to slave masters now? That's a new low, even for you.

And there was definitely rape. Survivors have said so.

Snowstorming · 22/06/2025 00:43

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Chippedgels · 22/06/2025 00:55

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 22:07

You've just contradicted yourself. How can one see both sides and have "little interest in the wider reasoning"?

It is something that you said previously in the thread so maybe you can answer that? But don't worry about it, I am here for healthy adult discussion, not emojis.

Dancingintherainxxx · 22/06/2025 01:10

He did this go promote pro Palestine 🇵🇸

He's also irish. Maybe look up what up the brits did to Ireland

Snowstorming · 22/06/2025 06:21

Dangermoo · 21/06/2025 22:50

😆 🤣

I’m glad genocide is humorous for you! xxx

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 07:09

Snowstorming · 22/06/2025 06:21

I’m glad genocide is humorous for you! xxx

Just as well I don't see the war as genocide, then.

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 07:14

Dancingintherainxxx · 22/06/2025 01:10

He did this go promote pro Palestine 🇵🇸

He's also irish. Maybe look up what up the brits did to Ireland

Oh I think we've got the message loud and clear about the correlation between NI and Palestine. I remember the Euro song contest in the aftermath of 7/10 and how the Israeli entrant had to have security. How her being 'allowed' to enter was also heckled by the Irish entrant. Reading this thread, it makes sense now.

GrammarTeacher · 22/06/2025 07:25

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 07:09

Just as well I don't see the war as genocide, then.

I’m sorry, you don’t see a series of actions that the leadership have stated are designed to destroy the Palestinians completely as genocide? You don’t see refusal to allow food, medicine and power into an overcrowded area as morally repugnant? You can’t see the similarities between this and other genocides? Really???

GrammarTeacher · 22/06/2025 07:28

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 07:14

Oh I think we've got the message loud and clear about the correlation between NI and Palestine. I remember the Euro song contest in the aftermath of 7/10 and how the Israeli entrant had to have security. How her being 'allowed' to enter was also heckled by the Irish entrant. Reading this thread, it makes sense now.

You’re complaining about heckling in comparison to what is actually happening.
I genuinely can’t believe this. If this was really about just destroying Hamas, I’m pretty sure that Mossad would have achieved that by now. It isn’t. They don’t control the West Bank and yet that’s under attack too.
Criticising the morally repugnant behaviour of the Israeli government is not anti-Semitic. There are many, many Jews who do just do that. Some traumatised, desperate people do awful things. It doesn’t make it right by a long stretch but if any of this is ever going to stop you need to understand why it’s happened and it’s not because one side or the other is evil.

tramtracks · 22/06/2025 08:21

GretaGreen · 21/06/2025 23:48

And surveys show that the vast majority of Israelis are pro the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. Nearly half of them support the killing of all Palestinians in Gaza. It doesn't mean they and their children should all be starved, displaced, tortured, raped and blown up does it, at least I hope that you don't feel that way. I don't thats what should happen to them and so obviously I don't support it happening to Palestinians or anyone else either.

I haven’t seen any evidence to support the statistic you mention.

EasternStandard · 22/06/2025 08:37

tramtracks · 21/06/2025 23:27

This is incorrect. There is clear irrefutable evidence of rape and sexual assault before murder. There was and is no justification for such attack against civilians.

@tramtracksI’m surprised mnhq is letting this thread stand with these posts, the one you responded to here.

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 08:41

EasternStandard · 22/06/2025 08:37

@tramtracksI’m surprised mnhq is letting this thread stand with these posts, the one you responded to here.

I'm not surprised at the post, given the lack of empathy shown to a Jewish woman on the CITME board. This thread is awful.

tramtracks · 22/06/2025 09:06

EasternStandard · 22/06/2025 08:37

@tramtracksI’m surprised mnhq is letting this thread stand with these posts, the one you responded to here.

MNHQ aren’t policing incorrect facts - it’s too difficult for them to fact check so to speak - it’s up to posters to try and calmly and sanely state facts. Which can be vey difficult as the basis of references are unverified on-line sources.

MNHQ are trying to control posts encouraging or supporting ‘hate’. I think it’s a difficult judgement call for them.

Martymcfly24 · 22/06/2025 09:07

tramtracks · 22/06/2025 08:21

I haven’t seen any evidence to support the statistic you mention.

It was in Haaratz newspaper Conducted by the Geocartography Knowledge Group for Penn State University in March 2025, the survey of 1,005 Israeli Jews that 82% support the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Gaza and 47% support the killing of all Palestinians in Gaza.

Now like all polls it has flaws and is a limited sample but it is a very worrying statistic.

EasternStandard · 22/06/2025 09:12

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 08:41

I'm not surprised at the post, given the lack of empathy shown to a Jewish woman on the CITME board. This thread is awful.

Agree this thread invites it. It’s awful to see.

tramtracks · 22/06/2025 09:18

Dangermoo · 22/06/2025 08:41

I'm not surprised at the post, given the lack of empathy shown to a Jewish woman on the CITME board. This thread is awful.

Yes - it is disturbing but sadly unsurprising - the amount of antisemitism on here - disguised as support for Palestinians.

Clearly no one wants any death or attacks on anyone - Palestinian or Jewish.
Hamas have destroyed the lives of their own population far far more than any recent bombings by Israel. The aid given to Palestine over the last decade has been much larger than aid given to any other country in need. Hamas have siphoned this off and used it to weaponise themselves - with a stated aim of destroying Israel itself.

I do think that some posters on this thread in particular do actually want Israel to cease to exist - and do not care where the Jewish population could be rehomed.

The Hamas ‘soldiers’ attacking civilians in Kibuttz Beeri telephoned home celebrating the ‘killing of a Jew’ - imho seems pretty antisemitisic to justify or support that action.

Martymcfly24 · 22/06/2025 09:47

The Hamas ‘soldiers’ attacking civilians in Kibuttz Beeri telephoned home celebrating the ‘killing of a Jew’ - imho seems pretty antisemitisic to justify or support that action.

The hate being spewed from both "sides" is disgusting. I presume you also condemn the 72 Virgins Uncensored social media channel which shows graphic videos of Palestinians being murdered and the celebrations that followed being run by members of the IDF.

soupyspoon · 22/06/2025 09:49

GretaGreen · 21/06/2025 23:48

And surveys show that the vast majority of Israelis are pro the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. Nearly half of them support the killing of all Palestinians in Gaza. It doesn't mean they and their children should all be starved, displaced, tortured, raped and blown up does it, at least I hope that you don't feel that way. I don't thats what should happen to them and so obviously I don't support it happening to Palestinians or anyone else either.

Im not sure why you're turning my post into making a comment about me and what I believe. Im simply highlighting something that is usually denied on these threads, I respionded to a post where someone implied that virtually its no wonder that the Palestinians rose up, as victims, on Oct 7th, as they are not perfect victims and I highlighted that this at least shows some honesty for once that the Palestinians support Hamas, something that is usually denied on these threads. It is usually said that Gazans/Palestinians shouldnt be attacked or seen as an enemy because they are not Hamas, but the reality is, they do support Hamas and what Hamas stands for, which is the end of Israel and attacks on Jews. Thats the bald facts of it no matter the context of how that has come to be.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/06/2025 09:58

You do have to wonder how hamas gained access for such an attack, from a fortress, Did Egypt warn Israel that hamas was planning an attack.
All the innocent people slaughtered that day and the continuation of slaughtering innocent people since.
Barbaric actions.

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