Showing support for terrorism is illegal so why do people do it?

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Well we all know it's illegal, don't we?

It happens though. The flags, the signs, the slogans, the chants, what is said etc.

Kneecap was charged on supporting terrorism. I understand that the charges relate to things like waving the Hezbollah flag and shouting in support of terrorist organisations.

He has been bailed pending trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

I am struggling to understand why you have empathy for one group and not the other, that do the exact same thing.

Whatever they want. It’s up to them. It can be what you posted or not.

Over to you on my question, do you support Hamas?

I do not view the long standing conflict through rose tinted glasses, where it is as simple as Israel = bad, Palestine = good. Both sides have their reasons for continuing the war. Those reasons are not for anyone to judge, other than the actors involved. What I can judge is the manner in which Hamas carried out an orchestrated, targeted massacre. I'm really not interested in discussing so called carpet bombing and genocide on this thread. It's been done to death elsewhere.

Seriously? What are you the BBC circa 2023? No I don't support Hamas.

We know how much you love question time so do you condemn the Israeli government?

Do you think the British government should align themselves with and call themselves an ally to the Israeli government given all that we know about their use of sexual violence, their support for racial segregation and settler terrorism?

And that is fine. But I am unsure why you have joined the thread discussing the reason people support terrorism or why you follow threads regarding the conflict if you do not care about the wider reasoning.

Settler terrorism 😅that's a new one on me. Can't believe I haven't heard that cliche before.

I doubt Kneecap care about the wider reasoning and this thread is about those clowns.

I think you’re mixing up posters I don’t watch question time. I also don’t speak highly of Labour.

Perhaps you need to ask whomever you’re thinking of.

No, I'm saying that you love to ask questions so I'm presuming you love to answer them too. The questions are there waiting for your answers

I can confirm, you're anything but a Labour voter!

I mean the head of Israels security agency would know better than you.

www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/23/israeli-security-chief-ronen-bar-hilltop-youth-west-bank

The head of Israel’s security agency, Shin Bet, has warned the country’s leaders that Jewish terrorism in the West Bank is out of control and has become a serious threat to national security.

lol at question time ok.

I don’t feel as strongly as those on the CITME board, I know many spend more time on thinking about it than I do.

If you think of Israel as you posted below that is up to you I won’t counter. My concern is more around support for terrorism that you see growing on SM.

You're lending credibility to Israel, when it suits. That's an interesting turn of events.

No, the thread is asking why. Kneecap was an example. I find it a strange stance on a forum, to give a biased view and when challenged state 'I have no interest in this topic'. That's fine, no one is forcing you to discuss it.

Now now @Dangermoo really living up to that username aren't you?!!!

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Isn't it striking how the language of these terrorist enthusiasts resemble those found in the playground.

Your childish responses throughout the thread are very telling @hellohellooo

I don't think anyone truly knows what they could be capable of given the circumstances.

During WW2, teenage girls lured German soldiers into the woods where they were then executed by others

"We had to go to a meeting place, and we had to dance with those men, but we could not show any emotions, because those men were our enemies. I was just 16 when I did this. One time, I met a man who wanted to go for a walk in the woods. So, we did, and when we were deep enough into the woods, he asked me if I would ‘go with him’. That was when I had to lure him to the spot where my comrades were waiting. We went there, and he was shot. I had to see him die.”

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0808hpm/the-teenage-dutch-girls-who-seduced-and-killed-nazis

I am sure that the Nazis would have called that terrorism. Others would have called it resistance and fighting for their freedom

However

"Hannie Schaft, known later as “The Girl with the Red Hair,” joined the resistance after witnessing the injustices of the Nazi regime firsthand. By 1943, she had become an integral part of the group, working alongside the Oversteegen sisters.

Schaft did not, however, accept every assignment. When asked to kidnap the children of a Nazi official she refused. If the plan had failed, the children would have to be killed, and Schaft felt that was too similar to the Nazis' acts of terror."

She was captured by the Germans and sentenced to death

Hannie’s courage was evident even in her final moments. As she faced her executioners, she reportedly said: “I shoot better than you,” after the first bullet only wounded her. She was then fatally shot again.

This is from the National Army Museum in the UK

https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/british-army-palestine

They had originally imposed a limit on Jewish immigration in the summer of 1939, anxious to end the civil disturbances in Palestine and to secure the support of the Egyptians and oil-rich Saudis ahead of the looming conflict in Europe.
This policy provoked armed Jewish resistance, and eventually ended up uniting those who had looked to Britain for help in establishing their national homeland (the Haganah) and those who wished to use terrorism to drive the British out.

The main terrorist groups were Irgun Zvai Leumi (National Military Organisation) - ultimately led by future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin - and an even more militant organisation, Lohamey Heruth Israel (Fighters for the Freedom of Israel) or LHI.

I wonder if the same events and groups are described differently in other museums in other countries?

Are you even old enough to go to a Kneecap gig? These things are usually 16 and over aren't they?

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of supporting terrorism, you seem oddly perplexed that people might do something if it is “illegal”. Morally and legally aren’t the same…People break the law all the time because they either don’t agree with it, or just don’t care. Lots of people don’t slavishly obey the law.

They don't do the exact same thing - in my eyes, so that will be why you are struggling.

Could you expand on that? Do you mean Israeli Soldiers are gentler when raping, torturing or murdering? Or do you mean that you those things are ok, when directed at Palestinians?

so if someones suffered under one regime, its ok for other regimes to pile on and do the same?

An eye for an eye makes the world go blind