Showing support for terrorism is illegal so why do people do it?

[Nowayyousure]

Well we all know it's illegal, don't we?

It happens though. The flags, the signs, the slogans, the chants, what is said etc.

Kneecap was charged on supporting terrorism. I understand that the charges relate to things like waving the Hezbollah flag and shouting in support of terrorist organisations.

He has been bailed pending trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

Absolutely.

They 12th is coming up soon so obviously we will see obviously the same law being applied to those who burn effigy's of politicians and Irish and Palestinian flags.

Would the OP describe people who have used violence to get the British to leave their countries as terrorists or freedom fighters?

There are plenty of example from the days of the Empire when violence was used against the British to get them to leave

They were only British soldiers or offcials or quislings who worked for them.Up the RA !

And that’s where my conversation with you ends because there is absolutely no logic in your responses.

They aren’t playing TRNSMT anymore

Thank you. It’s honestly exhausting trying to have these conversations sometimes, because unfortunately for the most part it still boils down to anti-Arab and anti-Islam ideology. Yet there would be uproar if I made any comparisons between certain groups that were and are still involved in the ongoing fight for Irish independence.

If your country was occupied by a force that made your way of life very difficult and you wanted change, and diplomacy wasn't working, what would you do to get that force to leave?

And would that be labelled as terrorism - or fighting for your freedom?

Would you make the cost of that occupation not worth it for the occupier?

(You'll notice I have made that a very generic question)

@PITCHpinkthis is valid.

I don’t know, I’m quite impressed with the dialogue here, for Mumsnet it’s pretty radical 😂

I only try because I think that some people are genuinely unaware. It's an incredibly lengthy and complicated conflict. And I work with people whose family members are living in fear for their lives, or who have already lost family members.

Whilst three old men do whatever they can to cling onto power, and who cares about the human casualties of that.

Well this is a very valid question because from my point of view studying the multiple rebellions and revolutions that were lost by the Irish over the centuries that will to remove the Occupying force rarely diminishes. So many of the uprisings were doomed from the start and received widespread condemnation in the British newspapers of the time.

The cost of the occupation was not worth it for the British in 1921 because of guerilla warfare tactics.

Colonisers rarely leave a country without violent force. What option does an occupied person have if they refuse to leave through negotiations.

Maybe 4 as I should probably include Putin in that!

Op, you really need to work on your critical thinking skills.

Well I certainly wouldn't do what Hamas did.

It’s literally as simple as that. Of course it would be ideal to come to a peaceful agreement but that has rarely happened in the history of mankind, in face talks and agreements generally only come after prolonged violence and uprise.

Mo Chara isn't being charged with supporting terrorism because he supported terrorism.

Kneecap had the cojones to stand on a stage at a very high profile festival in the US and get thousands of American kids chanting 'Free Palestine.' In front of a huge sign saying Fk Israel.

You think the Establishment was going to let that pass?

They just dug around to find something, anything they could be punished with, and here we are. It's pathetic.

It’s a form of virtual signalling. He might think he supports Hezbollah, but I’d love to know what he’d think if he actually came face to face with them. They’d probably wish him dead for his nationality and ethnicity.

It’s the same as everything, easy to support a cause from afar. I wonder how he’d feel if his wife was raped and kidnapped (as many people were on 7th Oct).

Hang on a minute your post seems to be implying that only Muslims are terrorists. I’m sure that’s not what you mean to say, it might be just that your phrasing is very very clumsy

What would you do if you were living under an occupied power that controlled your life?

It’s Mumsnet, they’d order in an Ocado delivery and wait for it to pass.

And this is why we need to bring back 😂 for posts.

Well there you have it !!!!

Exactly as it is

He is guilty of shaming feeble politicians and showing scum up for what they really are SCUM

Well done kneecap

Can. Not wait to see them live later this summer

Genius group 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

They show up the brits

They show up Israel

And they angered the US

Total genius in my eyes 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

I dont know, I've never been in that situation.

I would? Seems you apparently think you know all about me.