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Showing support for terrorism is illegal so why do people do it?

724 replies

Nowayyousure · 19/06/2025 11:36

Well we all know it's illegal, don't we?

It happens though. The flags, the signs, the slogans, the chants, what is said etc.

Kneecap was charged on supporting terrorism. I understand that the charges relate to things like waving the Hezbollah flag and shouting in support of terrorist organisations.

He has been bailed pending trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

A close-up of a man in the midst of a crowd. He is wearing sunglasses and a black and white keffiyeh headdress around his neck like a scarf. A crowd is around him. You can see Irish tricolours in the background

Kneecap rapper released on unconditional bail over terror charge

Kneecap's Liam Óg Ó hAnnaidh, aka Mo Chara, is accused of displaying a flag in support of proscribed organisation Hezbollah.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4k4xnlj8qo

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sualipa · 19/06/2025 17:41

Jewish terrorists that went on to become the IDF.

PhilomenaPunk · 19/06/2025 17:42

PITCHpink · 19/06/2025 17:32

Why did they and do they purposely aim for places full of young people having fun? Manchester, NY 911, Isreal with youngsters having fun? Those were terrorist attacks and targeted. How can anyone condone it?

You keep going on about racism but it’s nothing to do with their skin colour, as you keep referring back to.

Aside from the above, in what way do you justify such abhorrent behaviours and sanctions against women? No freedom, no education, no way of making a better life for themselves. In the meantime men can have several wives….

Do you think that oppression of these women shouldn’t be called out?

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Who is “they”? Every single example you have given was perpetrated by a different group. So who is “they”? Do you take responsibility for the actions of every white person in history? Do you not see any difference between the UK, Germany, the US, France etc etc? Good Lord if you call a geordie a scouser in the UK you’d get a slap yet people will happily lump an entire race of people from literally dozens of countries all into one group as if they are all the same. It’s disgusting.

GretaGreen · 19/06/2025 17:43

EasternStandard · 19/06/2025 17:37

Can you say why you’ve posted this? What is absurd re living in Iran v the UK

What differences do you see? Is it due to treatment of women for example

I don't really about what any of this has to do with Mo Chara, flag waving and supporting terrorists?

Why are all of your posts just questions? Every single time it's just little questions that 90% of the time aren't even relevant to the thread topic. You don't actively engage with threads.

In case you were wondering though I'd rather live in Portugal than Spain.

PhilomenaPunk · 19/06/2025 17:45

GretaGreen · 19/06/2025 17:43

I don't really about what any of this has to do with Mo Chara, flag waving and supporting terrorists?

Why are all of your posts just questions? Every single time it's just little questions that 90% of the time aren't even relevant to the thread topic. You don't actively engage with threads.

In case you were wondering though I'd rather live in Portugal than Spain.

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Ooh see I’d prefer Spain-interesting!

Im giving up on replying to that poster, it’s not adding anything to the discussion.

BeFirmHedgehog · 19/06/2025 17:45

The level of hypocrisy in this thread is astounding. Rightly condemning rape and murder but when the IDF / settlers / Israeli government commit the same atrocities - silence.

I have no respect or time for hypocrites.

EasternStandard · 19/06/2025 17:46

GretaGreen · 19/06/2025 17:43

I don't really about what any of this has to do with Mo Chara, flag waving and supporting terrorists?

Why are all of your posts just questions? Every single time it's just little questions that 90% of the time aren't even relevant to the thread topic. You don't actively engage with threads.

In case you were wondering though I'd rather live in Portugal than Spain.

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Feel free to scroll past as it was a question to @PhilomenaPunk

Who asked questions to mine incidentally especially the Hamas one

I can see it’s an uncomfortable one hence your response. Interesting

hellohellooo · 19/06/2025 17:47

@Dangermoo very apt username

Very very apt and troubling

PITCHpink · 19/06/2025 17:47

PhilomenaPunk · 19/06/2025 17:42

Who is “they”? Every single example you have given was perpetrated by a different group. So who is “they”? Do you take responsibility for the actions of every white person in history? Do you not see any difference between the UK, Germany, the US, France etc etc? Good Lord if you call a geordie a scouser in the UK you’d get a slap yet people will happily lump an entire race of people from literally dozens of countries all into one group as if they are all the same. It’s disgusting.

We’re taking about Iran and whether ‘they’ should/n’t be allowed nuclear weapons. You think it’s perfectly reasonable given that other countries have them. I find the idea terrifying as do so many others, because the human rights for their own people is atrocious, particularly for women. That’s enough evidence for most people that it wouldn’t be a great idea….

It’s terrifying that that some people think it’s perfectly reasonable and fine!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 19/06/2025 17:48

febig13461 · 19/06/2025 17:38

I don't know anything about mathanxiety's grandfather. I also didn't say I have a scale for terrorists. Not sure why people keep trying to put words in my mouth.

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She said that if the term had been invented at the time, he would have been categorised as a terrorist (I'm assuming he was a member of the old IRA).

You asked "Was your father (sic) involved in the rape, murder and kidnap of over a thousand people? Because if not I'm not sure the comparison works."

That certainly suggests you believe he wasn't as terroristy as someone who was involved in the rape, murder and kidnap of over a thousand people.

If that is not what you are saying, perhaps you could explain what you meant as I struggle to see an alternative meaning.

PhilomenaPunk · 19/06/2025 17:54

PITCHpink · 19/06/2025 17:47

We’re taking about Iran and whether ‘they’ should/n’t be allowed nuclear weapons. You think it’s perfectly reasonable given that other countries have them. I find the idea terrifying as do so many others, because the human rights for their own people is atrocious, particularly for women. That’s enough evidence for most people that it wouldn’t be a great idea….

It’s terrifying that that some people think it’s perfectly reasonable and fine!

You literally said “Why did they and do they purposely aim for places full of young people having fun? Manchester, NY 911, Israel” - that is literally what you said. Which of the above was Iran involved in exactly?

Which group claimed Manchester?
Which claimed 9/11?
Which claimed Israel?

Answer: they were all different. For different reasons. For different countries. By different groups. I know it can be mighty difficult for certain people to distinguish differences because of their own racism but there is no “they”.

PITCHpink · 19/06/2025 18:01

PhilomenaPunk · 19/06/2025 17:54

You literally said “Why did they and do they purposely aim for places full of young people having fun? Manchester, NY 911, Israel” - that is literally what you said. Which of the above was Iran involved in exactly?

Which group claimed Manchester?
Which claimed 9/11?
Which claimed Israel?

Answer: they were all different. For different reasons. For different countries. By different groups. I know it can be mighty difficult for certain people to distinguish differences because of their own racism but there is no “they”.

They were all terrorist organisations though were they not with the same hatred for the west. Different groups with the same aim- to inflict terror!

Iran, who are known supporters of such groups and have been financially are not suitable candidates for NW.

Tell me again about womens rights in Iran?

EasternStandard · 19/06/2025 18:03

PhilomenaPunk · 19/06/2025 17:45

Ooh see I’d prefer Spain-interesting!

Im giving up on replying to that poster, it’s not adding anything to the discussion.

Just saw this. Yes I thought you might avoid that.

If you’re going to claim everyone is on the same level in all these posts there’s no reason for calling it absurd.

There’s a disconnect that you often see on mn and SM.

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 18:03

hellohellooo · 19/06/2025 17:47

@Dangermoo very apt username

Very very apt and troubling

Why are you tagging me? The only thing that's troubling is the posts on this thread. Keep your personal attacks.

Oakcupboard · 19/06/2025 18:05

Nowayyousure · 19/06/2025 14:44

By the law of the land in which you live. The UK (if you live here) suggests you should not commit terrorist acts or support designated terrorist groups or incite it (or to use your example hit others). If you do these things which are illegal here then you might go to jail. You don't make the law here so you don't get to decide if you can hit someone or not.

I'm talking about laws here.

Other countries have their own laws. If in another country it is ok to support (insert group) and not illegal then there you go. However, if they bring that view to another country and attack others in another country, then they shouldn't be surprised if they are arrested etc.

Ok let’s talk law of the land…

uk law should be applied without discrimination, why then are loyalists (with their aforementioned flags and burning of pictures) not sanctioned the same as Kneecap? Or does it only apply to Kneecap because they are Irish catholics? 🤔

EasternStandard · 19/06/2025 18:08

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 18:03

Why are you tagging me? The only thing that's troubling is the posts on this thread. Keep your personal attacks.

I agree re some posts. Tbf I think best just left.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 19/06/2025 18:08

Oakcupboard · 19/06/2025 18:05

Ok let’s talk law of the land…

uk law should be applied without discrimination, why then are loyalists (with their aforementioned flags and burning of pictures) not sanctioned the same as Kneecap? Or does it only apply to Kneecap because they are Irish catholics? 🤔

It's such a puzzle, isn't it?

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 18:10

EasternStandard · 19/06/2025 18:08

I agree re some posts. Tbf I think best just left.

Yes, shocking that it still standing.

EasternStandard · 19/06/2025 18:12

Dangermoo · 19/06/2025 18:10

Yes, shocking that it still standing.

Agree maybe mnhq will get on to it at some point.

TakeMe2Insanity · 19/06/2025 18:28

So my comments regarding of creation of Israel have been deleted, perhaps though people can bring themselves to read this document and others which clearly outline what certain groups of people were doing which clearly describes terrorist activity.

history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1939v04/d835

SerendipityJane · 19/06/2025 18:34

Oakcupboard · 19/06/2025 18:05

Ok let’s talk law of the land…

uk law should be applied without discrimination, why then are loyalists (with their aforementioned flags and burning of pictures) not sanctioned the same as Kneecap? Or does it only apply to Kneecap because they are Irish catholics? 🤔

Sir ! Sir ! Sir !

She's asking questions again !!!

TakeMe2Insanity · 19/06/2025 18:40

And a whole wiki page for those who have forgotten what what done for it’s creation

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence

shortsharp · 19/06/2025 18:40

MammaTo · 19/06/2025 13:11

Preach!

Amen.

stupidarticle · 19/06/2025 18:43

PITCHpink · 19/06/2025 18:01

They were all terrorist organisations though were they not with the same hatred for the west. Different groups with the same aim- to inflict terror!

Iran, who are known supporters of such groups and have been financially are not suitable candidates for NW.

Tell me again about womens rights in Iran?

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They were all terrorist groups. The fact that you say 'with the same hatred for the west' means that you don't understand the fundamental ideology differences. I suspect most members of Hamas and Hezbollah don't exactly love 'the west' (particularly given their long term supply of Israel's military), but it is not a part of the ideology as it is for Al Qaeda for example.

And I was not aware that Iran was a financial supporter of Al Qaeda (well they were pre 9/11 but I mean vaguely recently). They have sheltered Al Qaeda operatives. Could you share your source for the financial support?

Lots of groups have the aim to inflict terror. That doesn't mean that they're linked and you can lump them all together.

I do view all these groups as terrorist groups, and I don't condone their actions. But they are not one homogenous group that all have the same aims.

In my experience, the only thing I know for sure about the conflicts in the Middle East is that the more I try to understand them, the more I realise how much I don't understand.

cakeorwine · 19/06/2025 18:51

A hotel in Palestine was bombed in 1946 killing 90 people including military personnel and civillians.

It was carried out by people who wanted the British to leave Palestine. Carried out by a Jewish insurgency group

Was that terrorism or was it freedom fighters?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

notquiteruralbliss · 19/06/2025 18:53

I would imagine it is because they agree with what the terrorists are fighting for

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