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To say that most heavy duty physical labour is done by men? When was the last time a female plumber, builder, roofer,painter and decorator, drain unblocker, or boiler or washing machine engineer came to your house?

612 replies

YourAmplePlumPoster · 15/06/2025 19:03

To say that most heavy duty physical labour is done by men?

OP posts:
FumingTRex · 15/06/2025 19:42

My painter is female.

FeckOffFecker · 15/06/2025 19:42

If you do a a specific job you'll build the strength for it and the muscle. But you'll never be able get smaller, slighter arms to fit in certain crawl spaces etc. I bet being a smaller woman would actually be quite useful a lot of the time.

ScarlettOYara · 15/06/2025 19:42

JoshLymanSwagger · 15/06/2025 19:40

Banging your dick on the keyboard repeatedly must smart a bit.

😂😂😂

AllTheChaos · 15/06/2025 19:42

YourAmplePlumPoster · 15/06/2025 19:18

Maybe men should go on strike for a week and if you need any of these jobs done they won't get done. Seriously. This is all because women simply don't want to do these jobs that involve hard physical labour.

And maybe women should go on strike and men can try doing all the childcare and housework for a week? Or do those not count as not physical enough?

MsSquiz · 15/06/2025 19:42

YourAmplePlumPoster · 15/06/2025 19:18

Maybe men should go on strike for a week and if you need any of these jobs done they won't get done. Seriously. This is all because women simply don't want to do these jobs that involve hard physical labour.

Sounds like an excellent idea.
1 week men could go on strike and women could do it all, then have another week where women go on strike and men could do it all… see who finds it easier to manage?

notimeforregrets · 15/06/2025 19:43

My roofer is a woman and so is my electrician.

ScarlettOYara · 15/06/2025 19:43

AllTheChaos · 15/06/2025 19:42

And maybe women should go on strike and men can try doing all the childcare and housework for a week? Or do those not count as not physical enough?

Don't make him panic! Housework, you say???

Teenybub · 15/06/2025 19:43

My sister qualified as an electrician, was pretty fed up with all of the “banter” and being patronised by male customers especially because a lot of it came from others that weren’t as good as her. She changed careers when a customer walked in naked and made a comment about how she must want it otherwise why would she go into that job. Apparently female electrician is also a type of sex worker. That’s the only part of the role where she had an issue with the physical aspect.

Caerulea · 15/06/2025 19:43

Stillamum3 · 15/06/2025 19:40

My daughter was a self-employed plumber for 5 years. After that, she got her HGV licence, but found that the misogyny she encountered made that job really unpleasant. She now installs fast fibre for Openreach, climbs telegraph poles and all the other things that entails. She's the only woman in her team, but is treated with respect and is good at her job.

A female family member was desperate to be a mechanic but was treated so appallingly by the men in the garage she was an apprentice at she left. She's now an independent cleaner.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/06/2025 19:43

What’s your point? Care duties are heavy duty with a lot of manual handling and they are mostly done by women. The difference is they are poorly paid as well as physically hard.

Wishing14 · 15/06/2025 19:44

@BrickHareTo be fair, working in drainage is extremely ‘heavy duty’. There aren’t many women who would have the strength to do many of the things you need to do.

legyeleven · 15/06/2025 19:44

I think you have a chip on your shoulder!
ive had a female plumber and a female
electrician in the last year.

not sure why you are so angry

terracelane23 · 15/06/2025 19:45

I’m a female gardener. The job can physical.
Most tradespeople are men.
Im not sure what your point is.

lazyarse123 · 15/06/2025 19:47

CorbyTrouserPress · 15/06/2025 19:37

I’m struggling to see what part is the joke?

Have you had a sense of humour failure? It's sad really that the pp had to explain he wasn't serious.

HoratioBellsOn · 15/06/2025 19:47

The poster has a history of slightly provocative threads. All a bit odd really. Maybe she's bored?

Mountainfrog · 15/06/2025 19:48

Lots of women in farming

BrickHare · 15/06/2025 19:48

Wishing14 · 15/06/2025 19:44

@BrickHareTo be fair, working in drainage is extremely ‘heavy duty’. There aren’t many women who would have the strength to do many of the things you need to do.

But a 5 foot 8 stone man would have the strength? Not all men are over 6ft and have amazing strength. You looked at the state of men on the high street recently? Overweight is what they are, so highly doubt they are going to be fit enough for these jobs.

ScarlettOYara · 15/06/2025 19:48

HoratioBellsOn · 15/06/2025 19:47

The poster has a history of slightly provocative threads. All a bit odd really. Maybe she's bored?

He should train in a heavy duty trade. Help out all the laydeez.

Katkins17 · 15/06/2025 19:48

And ????

Are you deliberately being obtuse here???

A friend of mine, Margaret is s British Gas engineer, and has been for many years.
my window cleaners are a father and daughter business.
Before he retired, the mechanic who always serviced my car, ran the garage with his daughter, also a mechanic.

I am more than capable to unblock my own drains and Carry out basic plumbing jobs like changing taps, plumbing in washing machines etc….youtube is a great resource for ‘how to’ videos.

my son is in the RAF and works with female engineers and mechanics etc ….

Are you just trying to make out that women are not capable …or that we’re just lazy ???

WhistlingalongtheMudFlats · 15/06/2025 19:49

What Sojourner Truth said:
https://www.learningforjustice.org/classroom-resources/texts/aint-i-a-woman

When many of the men went away in WWI and WWII, Britain blossomed with strong and gorgeous land girls.

In the 2000s sometime there were subsidised and free training courses in manual trades and in IT in the city where I lived. Funding had run out by the time I wanted to apply. I do hire women where possible though, not because I'm afraid but because their quality of work is often better and because I like contributing towards people following their talents.

See also: Soviet women snipers, Dahomey warriors, women on the kibbutz, East and South Asian women warriors (there's a chronicle of invaders complaining about women taking up the sword against them), women in various Indigenous communities, and a few years back women roadmenders in a Scandinavian country scandalised passing tourists by taking off their shirts while labouring on a hot day.

Men can be lovely pets, some more suited to outdoor than indoor life.

Ain’t I a Woman?

Sojourner Truth delivered this speech at the 1851 Women’s Rights Convention in Akron, Ohio. Born into slavery, Truth is widely known for her abolition and women’s rights work. Two versions of this speech are included.

https://www.learningforjustice.org/classroom-resources/texts/aint-i-a-woman

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/06/2025 19:50

Mountainfrog · 15/06/2025 19:48

Lots of women in farming

And many more in majority world countries.

BatchCookBabe · 15/06/2025 19:50

ScarlettOYara · 15/06/2025 19:39

Have a full life? Travel the world? Run MI5?
What a selfless soul.

😆

PinkArt · 15/06/2025 19:51

YourAmplePlumPoster · 15/06/2025 19:18

Maybe men should go on strike for a week and if you need any of these jobs done they won't get done. Seriously. This is all because women simply don't want to do these jobs that involve hard physical labour.

Why would they do that? If the men doing physical jobs don't want to do them, then they should look into moving over to something more cerebral. If they do enjoy doing the physical, and usually very well paid, jobs then why would they want to strike?
No-one is forcing men to do manual jobs, if anything women have felt excluded from such male heavy industries.

mummydoris2006 · 15/06/2025 19:51

My DD19 is an agricultural technician, She repairs combine harvesters and tractors for a living. It's bloody hard work and very hard, manual labour.
Harvest starts very soon and she'll be working on average 80 hours a week day and night keeping the farm machines running to help the farmers put food on our tables. She's done this since leaving school and starting her apprenticeship at 16.
I can't tell you how many times she's had to justify her right to be in the job to mysoginistic men, if you're a woman OP then that's even sadder that she's now having to justify it to women too 😔

Tagyoureit · 15/06/2025 19:51

YourAmplePlumPoster · 15/06/2025 19:12

Thats maybe because women don't want to do this kind of work. We all know that we can't beat men when it comes to sports as Navratilova said so why do we think we have the strength to clambour about on roofs or climb into sewage drains?

You don't need strength to climb on a roof, you need a ladder. Sewers have ladders down to them too.

There isn't a job you've listed that women do not do, there's just not a lot of women doing them.