To be oblivious to the issue people have with JKR? I thought she was a feminist. What have I missed?

[laughingnow]

People have warned me not to state the view above as ‘it’s more complicated’

Of course this is possible. I was the exact same and this thread has been really invaluable for me. Thanks for starting it @laughingnow .

I know George orwell explored some interesting ideas but if we just used plain English instead of twisting and adding assumed layers of meaning without any justification the world might be nicer

Amen

Just for anyone doubting the veracity of this (and I wouldn't blame you as it seems unbelievable...but then, these two)

And the haunted bawbag's 'entirely cordially' is undoubtedly red faced shouting.

Entirely agree.

https://murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2023/08/07/clarity-matters-how-placating-lobbyists-obscures-public-understanding-of-sex-and-gender/

Happy to help and, yes, I am genuine in my bafflement though much better informed now

Why did you write that you thought she was a feminist?
Being a feminist doesn't automatically make someone a good person.

You’re not allowed to dislike JKR on here; you’ll get a mocking reply if you say anything negative about her.

I thought she was a feminist that’s why I wrote that. I wasn’t assessing her moral worth just wondering why a chunk of people/weirdos/bigots/keyboard warriors take against her. People don’t always say what they mean or mean what they say and their lack of clarity can be confusing. I wasn’t assessing searching for the issue behind this baffling anti JKR stance.

There was a magazine that offered a £1 million prize for anyone who could find a single transphobic statement that JK Rowling has made. The prize is still waiting for anyone to claim it.

Oops: … I was just searching

Of course people can dislike her. It's the reasons they give which are the problem as they are based not on facts but on lies as evidenced when receipts for such claims are never produced.

Feel free to state your reasons for disliking JKR I am sure some will agree with you, just as some won't.

Who the fuck cares?!

No shit, Sherlock, that is precisely my point.

And yet you complain when we use plain English such as "trans women are men".

@Hibernatingtilspring I have absolutely no fear in wishing upon JKR all and any harm she has wished on others. I’m confident she’d come out unscathed. There was one recently that was a bit close, but it was along the lines of ‘don’t trip over your own ego on the way out’. That wasn’t it, but it certainly wasn’t a threat or a wish of harm.
Now the people chatting shit about JKR in contrast, I really hope they don’t get what they’ve wished on her. That would be painful and unpleasant. And indeed lethal.

“Comes across like “old man shouting at the clouds”

Funnily enough it’s not JKR or gender critical
people who come across like old men shouting at the clouds. Complaining that no one cares that you are asexual, now…

This is interesting. So apparently, it is JK Rowling’s fault that lobby groups misrepresented the law and told organisations and individuals that people should treat single sex provisions as being something they can choose to access based on their philosophical belief. Ie. their belief in their gender.

And it is JK Rowling’s fault that the law needed to be clarified in a court case. And that the Supreme Court pointed out that female people who make deliberate decisions to undergo extreme body modifications by taking testosterone might need to use alternative provisions even though they still have access to female provisions. And JK Rowling, I believe would support that decision by those female people. While also stating clearly that her funded rape crisis shelter would find services to suit unique needs for those female people regardless of how they looked.

Apparently, from your post, this can be considered to be JK Rowling’s wrong doing.

Basically people reading something on social media and sayingo definitely the gospel truth it on social media no facts or evidence needed

I always wonder why the words 'cis woman/man' had to be made up - if you need to differentiate then why not just say biological woman/man. I don't have a 'gender identity', I'm a biological woman, I find it highly offensive to be called 'cis'.

Trans people don't really seem to care though. I guess calling people biological women and men doesn't fit conveniently with their agenda of centring gender. They would prefer to suggest that 'cis women' are a subset of women just like 'trans women' and that sex and biology are not important.

I agree that it is more complicated for trans people now but they have the TRA's to thank for that - if they'd been campaigning for suitable 3rd spaces for the last decade or more there wouldn't be the current issues.

Forgot to say thank god for JK.

J.K. Rowling is extremely successful, influential and wealthy

and she won’t be silenced by males

that’s the problem for many men

As in “who the fuck cares” that something exists that you personally don’t feel is relevant to to you. Just ignore

People who have been struggling with their sexuality in this manner may care. Helps them
to know nothing is wrong with them and where to find out more. Like any other sexuality focused awareness days.

Whining about that is weird. But you had no idea what asexuality was so…

Who has “complained nobody cares they are asexual”?

(Why is reading comprehension so bad on this board.)

Can you post me having an issue with people saying “trans women are men”.

Screenshot or link. Thanks.

Or should we cut straight to you acknowledging
you made it up?

It's not relevant to anyone else.

I know what asexuality is.

I just don't care.

I am not interested in hearing about people's sex lives and I am not interested in hearing about their lack of sex lives.

We don't need awareness days. We need people to stop bringing their whole selves to work and the gym and the pub and God knows where else.

Lots of things are not relevant to lots of people. Mature Adults learn to ignore that which is not relevant to them and let others to whom it is relevant engage with it.

Pride month is not relevant to me but I know it means a lot to others so would never whine as to why it exists.

I am sure there are an abundance of “awareness” days that are not relevant to me so I just ignore them.

And given you thought asexuality means “not having sex” / “people’s sex lives” you clearly don’t know what it means.

We don't need awareness days. We need people to stop bringing their whole selves to work and the gym and the pub and God knows where else.

So as I said: just an old man shaking his fist at the clouds.