There will be a national enquiry into the grooming gangs

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/14/keir-starmer-national-inquiry-grooming-gangs

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YABU: this was unnecessary
YANBU: this was the right thing to do

Glad you admit you want to silence voices.

When those muslim voices are heard it won't be me who will be pissed.

Thank you.

Singing what tune? What tune do you think I am singing?

I have helped more victims than you will ever know. Sorry to piss on your parade.

I can't reason with you. I just can't. You're impossible. I'm sorry to say this : but I'm finding you to be manipulative. You're twisting my words and firing them back at me in fragments that don't reflect the context they were put in

Ever thought about politics as a career ? You're extremely prudent at obfuscating, denying, blaming, switching roles of victim and perpetrator, I could go on... Or journalist? Sensationalism is proving to be a strong point.

I feel sorry for anyone whom you claim to have helped.

I've gifted this article so anyone who wants to read this aren't paywalled out

www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/6434bc8f95c2a6c2

Nope you are the one doing that. You are misreading things and pretending they are about me saying you are racist when they are not.

I asked for a discussion on one thing and you got pissy.

Ever thought of a job as a social worker?

Please for the love of god : can someone explain to me how I've stated I wish to silence people ? I can't even engage with this poster anymore.

Because you don't want them to get help? Figures!

She was like this from page 1. You were too kind. I don't give a flying fuck.

I asked you a question now have the balls to answer.

What tune am I meant to be singing?

Spit it out.

Gosh this thread moves fast. For those who don't want to click on the link, it begins:

"The former chairman of Labour’s parliamentary party warned that drawing attention to the ethnicity of grooming gangs could harm the party’s electoral chances, the ex-MP for Rochdale has claimed.

Simon Danczuk, who represented the town from 2010 to 2017, said he was “threatened” by Tony Lloyd, who was campaigning to be the Greater Manchester police and crime commissioner at the time"

It's this kind of interference, this prioritisation of social cohesion and political expediency over safeguarding that failed these girls. The inability to say what you see, Pakistani Muslim men grooming girls in the plain sight of social workers, teachers, councillors, the police and every other tactically blind fucker who covered their own arse first.

They've made a huge tactical mistake, politically speaking. They've decided to align concerns about the gang rape of young girls with being far right. They're tacitly aligning lack of interest in the gang rape of young girls as part of their left wing thought.

Do they really see this ending well for Labour? Do they really want to be seen as the party that minimises and excuses child rape?

I remember the 90's in Huddersfield and Bradford, constantly being harassed by Pakistani men, told on my nursing college course that it was part of the culture and to ignore it. Told that if child abuse in home was reported to health visitor etc then it was to be ignored as it 'was their culture'. This has been going on for a very long time.

I experienced similar walking home from school (in my school uniform) in the 80s, through what was considered the local red light district.

Middle of the afternoon, obviously a schoolgirl, daily offers of money for sex, always the same ethnicity of men.

Wouldn't that be great! Without all the thread's determined whatabouterers the thread would take a quarter of the time to read...and some actual discussion could take place.

I agree. And the scary thing is people have well and truly drank the kool aid (as demonstrated by some die hard posters ) this is going to take a long time to balance back from this ridiculous extreme pendulum swing.

The only poster trying to silence anyone is the poster you're replying to. Your patience is phenomenal.

Yes ten to eleven months of this, actually they might be doubling down even now.

Would it be possible for Mumsnet to bring in an "ignore user" facility? I'm getting really concerned about potentially damaging the ligaments in my thumb with the amount of time I'm having to spend scrolling through the pointless, endless whataboutery posts.

I'm hopeful that this might not be the case. The vast majority, 76 percent of people in the UK on yougov's last count, were for a national inquiry into the grooming gangs and recognised that the earlier investigations had either no teeth, were too limited or, in other cases such as the IICSA utterly failed the victims of this crime by bellyaching, diluting and minimising.

So, I think there is room for a proper national discussion based on Casey's inquiry that won't bow to the coward like sensibilities of those who think that this truth, of the disproportional representation of specific men in a specific crime should be filed under a sanitising 'we know best' gloss.

I was already aware of this, ThePhantom, as anyone who's been involved with such politicians will be

Others who haven't, or who simply wish for scrutiny, frank discussion and even the truth to be avoided, will try to insist that what's happening isn't happening at all despite the increasing number who are speaking out, and as we're seeing they'll use the same tactics we've seen for decades

Fortunately this doesn't work any more, at least in the sense that more now recognise it for what it is, but whether that'll translate into anything actually being done about the ongoing abuse remains to be seen

This is very reassuring. Thanks for posting this

That would be brilliant! There are pages and pages of it on this thread.

Totally misread your post with my Pollyanna complex 🫣.