There will be a national enquiry into the grooming gangs

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/14/keir-starmer-national-inquiry-grooming-gangs

Posting here for traffic

YABU: this was unnecessary
YANBU: this was the right thing to do

They have but The Conservatives have been equally abysmal regardless of what Kemi Badenoch boasts. She held the position of Minister for Women 2022/24 and did zilch. She not once thought to speak to the victims of grooming gangs during her time in office and does not appear to have raised questions in parliament concerning these crimes during this time.

This issue is a plague on both of their houses, I agree. But the conservatives and reform both campaigned on grooming gangs at a local level in the July general election campaign. It was on the conservative's campaign literature in Oldham. Labour's leaflets didn't mention it.

You are contradicting yourself there.

This thread is lots of people talking about muslim gangs.
This shows they are not being talked about.

You are talking about it so yes it is being talked about - this very thread is people talking about it! Duh!

I asked you about black gangs because I have not seen one person talking about them. Now that is something no one is talking about and you seem hell bent on not doing for some reason.

Oh pulling that tactic are you now? The age old one!

Abhorrent.

So start your own thread instead of hijacking this one.

I take my hat off to you. Your posts have been brilliant throughout this thread. I had to bow out of this thread yesterday. The lengths some will go to to try and distract is incredible.

Same. It must be like trying to shovel snow in a blizzard making your reasonable points plain amongst the barrage of faux stupidity and misdirection.

Oh. What are you saying here ? I don't care about black people/black victims ?

And this right here people: is why we're in this mess. Posters like this.

So first you say you cannot speak about certain gangs then admit the thread is ALL about those said gangs. When that is pointed out that this proves you can in fact talk about them you then try and tell me I shouldn't talk about certain gangs on here instead.

The irony that you do not want me to talk about a certain group of grooming gangs all while crying that you are not allowed to talk about a certain group. Telling me to make my own thread and not talk about things on a general thread about gangs.

You couldn't make it up. Crying over this one minute then trying to control and limit what people talk about yourself trying to specify this is for muslim gang talk only.

So what you mean is you are pissed that people are talking about things you do not want to talk about or hear. You want your talk to dominate and were crying earlier that others were talking about other elements and parts of the gang issue and you didn't like it. That was your issue.

Nope we can all talk on here about all things. As you said you wanted. Practice what you preach.

Honestly, I haven't even read your reply and I'm not going to. Your posts on this thread tell us all we need to know. Your typing fingers must be exhausted.
As I said, start your own thread.

Nope absolutely not I am not saying that. I am talking about how no one can talk about certain gangs and when I bring up certain gangs you tell me I cannot talk about it.

I asked for your thoughts on the black gangs. You said you didn't want to talk about them. Nothing about that implied you are racist.

Yes you are the reason why we're in the mess. Telling certain groups they are only allowed to talk about certain things and trying to silence anyone who wants to talk about other elements. Just like the press did.

I know. Honestly, I'm now being accused of having no regard for black people because I'm not bringing them into the thread. That poster said because I was happy to bring Muslims up ! Yes to counteract your catholic whatabouttery.

I think we can all see why we're in this mess. Conclusion: you still can't point out the heritage of perpetrators from an ethnic minority. White girls are not allowed to be labelled as the main victims in this, chosen precisely for their race and what it translated to for those men .

But come on, let's all admit we're racist, get trapped in all the sticky spiders webs being shot off by certain posters and accept white rough girls don't matter. Must keep protecting the multiculturalism at all costs.

Nope I will not be silenced. Telling me not to talk about victims and perpetrators on this thread because it isn't what you want to hear is not right.

I'm glad we will have an investigation and then voices you wish to silence will be heard. Talk of victims and perpetrators will not be silenced by you because you do not want to hear the scale of the issue.

If you want to start a 'only talk about muslim gang' thread then crack on. I will talk about all. No wonder muslim girls said they felt unheard.

I agree with one thing you've said there : "voices you wish to silence will be heard"

Perhaps you can come back when indeed, those voices are heard. See if you're still singing the same tune.

@ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera @OpheliaWasntMad @SquashedMallow
I am in awe of your patience in front of the shapeless absurdity that is been thrown at you

I’m happy. I think the noise has got too loud for Keir to ignore it any longer, the victims deserve a proper inquiry.
He previously said anyone wanting an inquiry were jumping on a ‘far right’ bandwagon. This isn’t an issue that’s going to go away.

1. You didnt mention the Sikh/Hindu victims. How dare you!
2. You didnt mention the muslim/mirpuri victims. How dare you!
3. You didnt mention the black victims. How dare you!
4. You didnt mention the white gangs. How dare you!
5. You didnt mention the black gangs. How dare you!
6. You didnt mention the catholic church abuse. How dare you!
7. You didnt mention the anglican church abuse. How dare you!
8. You didn't mention the white pedos who go to Thailand to buy sex.How dare you?
9. You didnt condemn the white racists/gammons rioting. How dare you!
10. You risk retraumatising the victims. How dare you!
11. You didnt talk enough about VAWG. How dare you!
12. It is all misogyny anyway. Go away.

I can't believe I ever respected Sadiq Khan. He's such a weasel, it's absolutely unreal.

Gosh, this is depressingly accurate. It gives the ten rules of misogyny a run for its money.

Nope I didn't say you had no regard for black people at all. I was on about the irony when you were crying about wanting to speak so I said lets speak and you said you didn't want to. I've said time and time again I do not think you are racist but you won't be told as you want to play the victim.

You have a reading issue matey or trying to play the victim. Or both.

Yes you can point to the heritage of SOME of the perpetrators and you get pissed when I even speak about it. I welcomed a discussion from someone who fucked off after one line who was adamant she wanted to talk to me about brown gangs. I said i welcomed that talk. She didn't like it so ran away as it didn't fit the narrative she wanted to paint about me. Same narrative you are trying to paint.

I welcome discussion of muslim gangs but I do not welcome being told I can only talk about muslim gangs and they are the only problem and that these gangs did not rape kids in their community at all as that ignores victims.

Must keep on pretending you are the victim at all costs you mean!

Again, I can't be bothered reading another of your very long winded ramblings, but your first sentence made me laugh.

Thanks very much OP. You really have to stick your heels in and fight the resistance with some die hard manipulative liberals. It's so exhausting how they're so eager to manipulate and obfuscate to try and bring this back to "white people = racist" (and these posters will be white themselves) dying on someone else's hill, speaking for ethnic minorities hoping for a big old pat on the back.

Maybe the government needs to deport where necessary then

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I second this

Which is why I don't engage but only mock these characters. I dont for a second believe that any of them actually cares for any victim of sexual violence at all. There is a better thread on FWR on this topic. I bet none of these characters will dare go on that one.