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To ask if boys can wear coloured gingham school shorts?

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Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 07:17

DS starting school in September. I’ve never liked the grey boys’ school shorts. I think they’re horrible.

Could a boy wear the shorts version of the summer dresses in the warmer months? The ones like this:
https://direct.asda.com/george/school/shorts/light-blue-girls-gingham-longer-length-school-shorts/G008057152,default,pd.html?redirectFromInt=1&cmpid=ppc--geor-------_-dskwid-_dm&utm_campaign=pla:Fashion-School-_Performance_Max&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17501196607&gbraid=0AAAAADt8Wcm1oMWVYoBrMZRAaJmY4OxHM&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgIXCBhDBARIsAELC9ZgYG9pdeZibdgD76_xniRBLDqnyyvZArL9DdLA7VsYiWE5zGC1CWE0aAkIFEALw_wcB

The little boys round here wear a lot of brightly coloured patterned leggings.

Why couldn’t they were these shorts? Are they obviously girly? Would people bully him or think we were weird? I just think they’re nicer.

Light Blue Girls Gingham Longer Length School Shorts | School | George at ASDA

• Shorts • Cotton rich • 2 side slip pockets • 2 side patch pockets • Pull on. Shop from our latest range in School.

https://direct.asda.com/george/school/shorts/light-blue-girls-gingham-longer-length-school-shorts/G008057152,default,pd.html?cmpid=ppc-_-geor-_--_--_--_-dskwid-_dm&gad_campaignid=17501196607&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADt8Wcm1oMWVYoBrMZRAaJmY4OxHM&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgIXCBhDBARIsAELC9ZgYG9pdeZibdgD76_xniRBLDqnyyvZArL9DdLA7VsYiWE5zGC1CWE0aAkIFEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&redirectFromInt=1

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Ifpicklesweretickles · 06/06/2025 09:57

Calliopespa · 06/06/2025 09:24

Little boys often do get dirtier.

Little girls tend to lift themselves across the ground so they don’t feel the friction; little boys tend to drag themselves. If you watch them playing at the playground ( I have done maaaany hours of this!) you will likely find yourself thinking “ those trousers are going to be filthy/ wrecked/ knees gone through in no time” when watching the boys.

Of course there are exceptions either way and most girls get dirty too. But lots of boys really do grind in the dirt.

The girls' clothes get marked and are chuckable very quickly too because, when they are allowed to, and not discouraged too., they like to play free and rough, speaking in generalisations.
They often are discouraged and comments like pale is good for a girl bit not for a boy don't help girls reach their full potential, be themselves or develop confidence. It's how sexism starts and then you are the one who can't get a job because you have small children.
How do you even know her son likes to play rough and tumble? But you make a sexist assumption.
You are no expert from watching the playground I'm afraid it's often people watching the playground that often set the gender "norms" rather than family. We can do all we can at home to let kids be themselves but they start school or even nursery and it's all "when our girls stay indoors" and "boys go out to play", little girls are "hormonal", and "bitchy" or "vicious". Whereas, if you impartially observe, you'll see that it's not that and the behaviours and preferences are very similarly presented in both genders (and i use the word gender to mean sex as it used to be) and the girls may express those behaviours differently due to societal expectation e.g. more relational aggression as opposed to beating someone with a stick.
You often do see little boys walking home in a group jumping on each other and trying to play rough. This isn't discouraged. Girls trying to do it and more often or not they'll get ostracised by their parents (more than anything) and the peer group. It's not the chromosomes making them do certain things, it's what you say and do around them and the feedback around them.
You accept sexism and promote it, don't complain then when you get overlooked and get a male headteacher in charge of 100 female staff as they "couldnt" find anyone just as good.

Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 09:58

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FruityCider · 06/06/2025 09:58

EdithBond · 06/06/2025 09:50

The worst thing for me was a large toy store (about 15 years ago now, so hope it’s changed)

DS, about 7 at the time, was really into drawing with felt tips. We were looking for sketch pads, pens etc. Couldn’t find them. Asked the assistant and they said it was on the Girls Floor.

Turned out the construction toys (Lego and the like) were on the Boys Floor. And paints, pens, paper etc were on the Girls Floor.

And we think this shit comes from kids. Social conditioning.

And THEN we wonder we these little boys and girls who were kept in their little boxes grow up and either become bullies who make nasty comments to gender-non-conforming people, or think that because they want to wear a dress they must be a girl.

RedToothBrush · 06/06/2025 10:03

I don't get the girls gingham uniform thing anyway. It discourages them from playing like the boys. Its impractical.

Grey shorts, skirts, cullots all the way.

OneTealOrca · 06/06/2025 10:04

Come here to see if anyone was woke and saying yes .no dont send your son to school in these are you a woke mom

autumngirl714 · 06/06/2025 10:05

OP, I have two boys, both primary school aged.
I have never seen a boy in our school, or any school for that matter, wearing those shorts.
I can't speak for your school policy, but it wouldn't be allowed at our school. It's goes against the uniform policy.

You would be sending him into school in a very distracting style which is associated with the girls summer dress and make him stand out.

I think you need to get passed what you want him to wear and give him chance to settle and fit in. Sadly I fear sending him into school in them shorts would resort in early bullying and questioning.

MimiGC · 06/06/2025 10:05

Is your son used to being dressed in what are obviously girls’ clothes and the attention that inevitably comes with it? Because if not, maybe the big life event of starting school is not the time to introduce this experience.

Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 10:06

OneTealOrca · 06/06/2025 10:04

Come here to see if anyone was woke and saying yes .no dont send your son to school in these are you a woke mom

Do you actually know what woke means?

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Calliopespa · 06/06/2025 10:06

Ifpicklesweretickles · 06/06/2025 09:57

The girls' clothes get marked and are chuckable very quickly too because, when they are allowed to, and not discouraged too., they like to play free and rough, speaking in generalisations.
They often are discouraged and comments like pale is good for a girl bit not for a boy don't help girls reach their full potential, be themselves or develop confidence. It's how sexism starts and then you are the one who can't get a job because you have small children.
How do you even know her son likes to play rough and tumble? But you make a sexist assumption.
You are no expert from watching the playground I'm afraid it's often people watching the playground that often set the gender "norms" rather than family. We can do all we can at home to let kids be themselves but they start school or even nursery and it's all "when our girls stay indoors" and "boys go out to play", little girls are "hormonal", and "bitchy" or "vicious". Whereas, if you impartially observe, you'll see that it's not that and the behaviours and preferences are very similarly presented in both genders (and i use the word gender to mean sex as it used to be) and the girls may express those behaviours differently due to societal expectation e.g. more relational aggression as opposed to beating someone with a stick.
You often do see little boys walking home in a group jumping on each other and trying to play rough. This isn't discouraged. Girls trying to do it and more often or not they'll get ostracised by their parents (more than anything) and the peer group. It's not the chromosomes making them do certain things, it's what you say and do around them and the feedback around them.
You accept sexism and promote it, don't complain then when you get overlooked and get a male headteacher in charge of 100 female staff as they "couldnt" find anyone just as good.

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Well I think your point is better addressed by giving the girls grey shorts too, rather than putting them all in “hindering” attire.

Sprogonthetyne · 06/06/2025 10:06

Both my kids (one of each sex) go in black pe shorts during the summer, much cooler and more comfortable then the tailored gray ones, and more practical to play in and wash then gingham.

Different schools may be stricter on uniform, our local area has a mixed demographic, so the schools here take the aproch of discourageing buying anything specifically for the two weeks it's actually sunny, and allow any dark colours sensible shorts.

HoldmecloseTonyDanza · 06/06/2025 10:07

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Now you're just getting nasty OP.

ERthree · 06/06/2025 10:08

He will be laughed at for the rest of his school days so why on earth would you to let that happen?

Moveoverdarlin · 06/06/2025 10:09

Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 07:22

So why do the girls wear them?

They really don’t. I don’t think those shorts would be allowed. Summer checked dresses in warm weather / grey skirts or pinafores in winter.

Grey shorts or trousers for boys.

FatherFrosty · 06/06/2025 10:12

They quickly dislike shorts for school round here even in the summer they are all in trousers from year 1-2.

jljlj · 06/06/2025 10:14

Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 07:23

Do you think he would be bullied? Why?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Bullying 101 is to find a difference and mock the person for it. If the other boys are in grey shorts and your DS is in those, then there will be kids who will pick it up. Just buy the grey shorts, let your child blend in. There's nothing wrong with the grey ones - they wash and tumble well and they are going to be more stain proof that the blue/white.

RedToothBrush · 06/06/2025 10:15

Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 10:06

Do you actually know what woke means?

You can throw around your comments here, but ultimately other parents will be thinking 'dickhead' if you decide stupid impractical shorts are your hill to die on.

x2boys · 06/06/2025 10:15

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By all kids it doesn't matter what we as adults think kids will pick on things that they don't see as the norm
When my now 18 year old was about six or 7 there waa a time when there was a hat ,scarf, glove all in one thing ( dont know how to describe it, ) that was paticularly popular with young kids
On a day out we found a stall selling a minion one rather then the normal plain ones
My son was delighted with it and happily went to school, the kids called him minion head, he refused to wear it again.

Ifpicklesweretickles · 06/06/2025 10:15

Calliopespa · 06/06/2025 10:06

Well I think your point is better addressed by giving the girls grey shorts too, rather than putting them all in “hindering” attire.

They can have shorts and have had for about a hundred years. PE used to be done in knickers. Girls cartwheeling in dresses didn't use to be a problem until the recent changes in society. Dresses are often more comfortable than trousers which is why many girls prefer them. It's the mysoginists who promote "modesty" and find positive things to say about "covering up" and putting girls in uncomfortable clothes in order to allow them to join in that are the problem. Sheep just follow.

Literally everything your great grandmothers fought against, brought back by people who have more skin in the game than you and you bought into it.

A boy can wear a dress if he wants too, still a boy. In fact when little they often used to.

ProudScoutMum · 06/06/2025 10:16

Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 08:18

The examples I’m thinking of were quite pro uniform. There’s a reason scouts don’t do uniform in Germany.

That's for two reasons the first is they don't have a uniform because they are not a unified organisation. We have Scouts, Sea Scouts and Air Scouts in the UK which all have slightly different uniforms but we have the same rules to abide by.

German Scouting would be like also including Girlguiding, Cadets and Boys Brigade. We all have basically the same underlying goals of teaching kids useful skills and teamwork but slightly different ways of going about it.

German Scouts like practicality and functionality in their uniforms not sure blue gingham shorts would fit with that description.

Oh and completely aside from whether kids should wear them because of the way they look or potential bullying, I am a Mum whose daughter wore these dresses she flat out refused those shorts because they are so poorly designed. She happily stole her brothers grey shorts because I bought the cargo style and she coveted the pockets.

Toddlerteaplease · 06/06/2025 10:16

They look like swimming shorts

UnctuousUnicorns · 06/06/2025 10:17

throwawaynametoday · 06/06/2025 07:25

Absolutely do not buy these for your son.

Personally I think there should be no such thing as gendered clothing, especially for children, but back on planet earth I would not be sending my 5 year old son to school in gingham.

To be fair those shorts would be minging on girls or boys. Gingham school dresses for summer are fine; they're traditional, going back decades. Those shorts are just awful.

5foot5 · 06/06/2025 10:17

Makingitupaswegoalong · 06/06/2025 07:29

I agree. It’s weird that boys in this county wore them all year round for the first half of the 20th century.

It's not at all weird, it was for entirely practical reasons. Young boys were expected to get up to all kinds of activities that would probably wear out the knees on trousers, then their parents would either have to patch them or spend good money replacing them. In shorts it is the knees that get the wear and tear, but they scab over and heal up for free!

LavenderBlue19 · 06/06/2025 10:18

TheCurious0range · 06/06/2025 07:51

DS is 6 he still wears lindex brushed cotton inside leggings (not to school at they're not in the uniform policy but for non uniform days, outdoor learning, playdates etc) and so do several of his male school friends, and the ones who don't don't bat an eye that others do. DS is very tall for his age and very slim, joggers fall off if I get them long enough and are pretty scruffy. I don't see why boys should have to wear jeans or trousers with a button fly.

Having said that I wouldn't put him in those shorts, I wouldn't put a girl in them either.

My six year old still wears Lindex leggings at home and loves them (always the first choice), but he won't wear them out since last summer when an older kid in a playground asked why he was wearing girls' leggings. It's such a shame. Mine is short and slim and joggers fall off him too - I buy slim/skinny joggers or stretchy slim jeans which fit a bit better.

Ponoka7 · 06/06/2025 10:18

EdithBond · 06/06/2025 09:37

Wow, I’m less aware of social norms for girls.

At proms and parties I see teenage girls wearing colour. But guess it depends on the prevailing fashions locally.

My DSs wear v brightly coloured football shirts (red, salmon pink, orange, neon green) but would never choose an ordinary t-shirt in those colours. I bought DS2 an orange Adidas tee, but he only wears it at home.

I don't agree with the OP. But in my pp I mentioned mixing in cultures were pink is unisex. I do think that the influx of players from around the world has done sports brands a favour. Men and boys are now wearing more colour, especially on their feet, because across Africa both men and women, girls and boys, wear all colours. Someone mentioned a boy wearing a pink gingham bonnet, but a pink, gingham baseball cap doesn't look out of place if a Korean etc young man is wearing it.
The OP does say that her household isn't particularly progressive, so perhaps she should have asked the child's father, or another male relative, if he'll lead the way on wearing gingham outside of the pool.

PiggyPigalle · 06/06/2025 10:19

The clue is in the word "uniform". Uni means One. Therefore, they all dress as one.
So no, your child should not wear gingham shorts, when the uniform is grey.