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To feel sad after rejection from school Mum

339 replies

Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 00:30

DS is finishing Year 1 in school, he is best friends with another little boy since reception. Despite efforts the boys mother has shown no interest in playdates etc, ive invited her to the park twice and also to a local child disco. Her responses are usually friendly but just stating she's busy.
That's all fine, I know people have busy lifes but ive noticed recently she's ignoring me at events and almost being rude. Ive passed her a few times on school drop off and she usually avoids eye contact, we were recently at a kids sports event our kids were attending and she walked round behind the pitch to sit on the opposite side from me, no hello or acknowledgement. I did go over and say a quick hello, she was cordial but I wouldn't say friendly. Another school event she basically walked past me and sat with another group and I noticed she came over to a few people to chat briefly during the event but ignored me, despite me sitting not very far from others she spoke with. My DS is quite keen on this other boy and they would be close in school according to the teacher.
AIBU to feel sad about this? Im not sure what else I can do without coming across as full on as she clearly doesn't want even a friendly relationship with me despite seeming friendly with lots of other school mums from the class.

OP posts:
Gloriia · 03/06/2025 09:07

Theworldisinyourhands · 03/06/2025 09:04

I'm genuinely interested... When your kid is asked for a playdate do you actually think that's because the parent likes you. I genuinely couldn't give a shit whether another parent likes me or not. If you want friendly chat I'm up for that. However my invites for playdates are based purely on what I think my dd wants/needs. They don't actually get that much chance to socialise in school so of course I'm going to attempt to facilitate them spending quality time together outside school. It's a vital part of a child's development and wellbeing that they have nice friends and that they're able to independently choose these friends surely?

This!

NewGoldFox · 03/06/2025 09:07

Do you park horribly on the school run? Instant blacklist for me 😂

socasuallycruelinthenameofbeinghonest · 03/06/2025 09:09

She may be chatty with other mums because they are her friends, and you’re not. Just because you have kids who are mates, she might have all the friends she needs and just not be interested. Nothing personal. Honestly, people can be friends with who they like and it’s nothing to do with you. Just say hi, remain polite and don’t give it another thought.

Eastie77Returns · 03/06/2025 09:11

RubyBirdy · 03/06/2025 08:46

I don’t personally agree with people saying you should’ve stopped inviting after the first time. People have busy lives and I don’t think you should feel the pressure to drop everything when invited for a play date or they’ll never ask again! I don’t think you’ve done anything wrong at all, but it does sound like for whatever reason, she doesn’t want to be friends. That’s her business though, you sound lovely and don’t let her change your friendly nature, as the right mums will be so glad to have another friendly mum inviting them to multiple play dates - I would be grateful!

If someone responds with “I’m busy on Saturday” (or whenever) and does not offer up an alternative day then personally I think that is a clear sign they do not want to meet.

If the school mum was up for a play date with the OP she would have readily suggested another day or said “let me see me when I’m free and get back to you”. The fact she was busy on three different occasions says it all.

It’s about reading the room/social cues.

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 03/06/2025 09:20

You wont ever know the reasons why she is being like this OP, people on here will give the reasons they think (dressed up as fact) based on their own circumstances and personality but you will never actually know so I would just back off.

I agree with others that you don’t need to be friends with your sons friends parents but for sure some parents do need this, we had one Mum who was so OTT at having to know everything about us that it got unnerving, she had very high standards for who her child was friends with and that fine but I am not about to give someone chapter and verse on my entire life just because she is a control freak, she was basically asking our household income at one point.

Also you only need to look at threads on here such as the current one about things you will never let your children do to see that some people are such control freaks they are outright saying that they won’t ever allow their child on a play date or to play with anyone other than siblings or cousins. It’s a sad existence for those kids but it isn’t you or your DC’s problem.

ViciousCurrentBun · 03/06/2025 09:23

I did always say hello so was not rude but there were some Mums I just didn’t want to hang out with at school. So if it had been some Mums asking I wouldn’t have wanted a play date at the park because then it’s me having to hang out with someone I don’t want to. If it’s dropping a child at a house for them to play that’s different because its a quick chat at drop off and pick up. All this be kind all the time, it’s only women that have to do it isn’t it.

I spent enough of my time with colleagues and family who I wouldn’t have chosen to but had to.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/06/2025 09:28

One school mum whose dd repeatedly came for play dates at DD’s, without ever once inviting Gdd back, eventually told dd (once she finally asked) that she just couldn’t be bothered with hosting play dates.

Just saying.

Butdidyou · 03/06/2025 09:30

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 08:26

And this parent might well be on mn at somepoint saying 'oh I'm ill and I've no one to do school drop off as I don't know any of the other parents what can I do shall I keep them off? waaah!'

Kids start school, you network a bit. No need to be bffs, you just get to know the other parents of your kids friends. It can work in everyone's favour not least your children who like to see their friends out of school. Think of them rather than your own social anxiety.

Why are we assuming that this other mum has no friends just because they don't want to be friends with OP?

Sometimes you just don't click with another person. It's not that deep.

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 09:36

Butdidyou · 03/06/2025 09:30

Why are we assuming that this other mum has no friends just because they don't want to be friends with OP?

Sometimes you just don't click with another person. It's not that deep.

You don't have to click, its the kids who are friends.

We see it on here all the time a parent who is stuck for childcare or a school pick up as they cba to even try and get to know other parents.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:37

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 08:40

'She's avoiding you because she doesn't want to have to give another excuse. Take the hint. I don't mean to be harsh, but she clearly doesn't want to be friends with you. If your boys are friends, fine, but school is for their social development, not for you or any parents to expand their social circle.'

Kids like to play with their friends out of school! Put them first.

This whole 'she doesn't want to be friends with you' is so childish.

Many of my dc's friends parents weren't my friends but we were perfectly able to chat over coffee until they were old enough to be left which tbh at y1 I'd say they are anyway.

There's nothing childish about she doesn't want to be friends with you.
It's matter-of-fact, if anything.
I think it's very clear from the OP's info that this mum isn't interested in a friendship.
If the OP had kept interactions with the mum to the basics needed to facilitate the friendship, then this other mum may be up for a chat over coffee, but it seems she has seen the OP as too full-on, or perhaps she just doesn't like her for whatever reason. It's allowed.
There was a full-on mum in my son's nursery who called at my house every morning to walk together. I stuck it out because I knew they'd be going to different primary schools. I was so relieved when nursery ended.
She seemed so unaware of how disinterested I was in having a friendship with her (my bad, no doubt) but I remained courteous. It was draining.
I imagine this mum is trying to avoid the possibility that she may not be able to shake off the OP.

diddl · 03/06/2025 09:38

You don't have to click, its the kids who are friends.

If the kids are still young & you'd be staying for the playdate that can be hard to do if you don't like the other mum.

I think the other mum is rude for ignoring.

You'd think she could say hello or just acknowledge!

NerrSnerr · 03/06/2025 09:38

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 09:36

You don't have to click, its the kids who are friends.

We see it on here all the time a parent who is stuck for childcare or a school pick up as they cba to even try and get to know other parents.

The OP has said that this woman has sat and chatted to others so probably has other friends. It’s just for whatever reason she does not want to be friends with the OP.

ButteredRadish · 03/06/2025 09:41

I was just explaining to my DD in the car this morning on way to school, that some people have the attitude that they already have enough friends and that it’s nothing to do with who YOU are as a person, it’s about their wishes for themselves.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:44

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 08:58

I disagree, I think ignoring people is rude. The person doesn’t have to have play dates or be a friend but she shouldn’t be avoiding eye contact and obviously avoiding.

I say that as someone with severe social anxiety and Audhd who really struggles with other people. The other parent isn’t being a good person, in my opinion.

Perhaps the other parent is thinking 'why won't this woman take the hint?' so maybe she sees her only option to actively ignore.
That doesn't mean she's not a good person.
Why is it her responsibility to accommodate social interaction that she clearly, for whatever reason, doesn't want?

Stresshead84x · 03/06/2025 09:46

SandyY2K · 03/06/2025 00:39

I was going to suggest that she may be shy or have social anxiety, but you said she was speaking to others.

Could it be she doesn't like your son?

My kids left school ages ago, but there were some kids I wasn't keen on and wouldn't want a playdate with my kids and them.

It was mainly naughty behaviour of the kids from my observation at other parties or what I witnessed myself in school.

To be fair I'm very shy and I can talk comfortably to some people that I know well or jsut some people are easier to talk to, and not so much to others so that doesn't necessarily mean anything, although if OP's regularly approaching her i'd say that would make her easier to talk to.

SueSuddio · 03/06/2025 09:46

OP I have a similar nature but have learnt to back off if an invite isn't taken up then I would just drop it.

Like you, I'd struggle not to be friendly in person though if I knew our kids were really getting on.l so I feel your pain!

Sometimes I think thd school pick up makes parents regress to their schooldays too. The cliques, blanking and ignoring other mums depending on which way the wind is blowing that day. Being hot and cold and petty.

Just ignore this mum and focus on other school mums, your children will probably change friendships in any case as that is what kids do.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:47

LauraP32 · 03/06/2025 08:59

To be honest for me the conversation has turned too much about friendship.

There's being friendly vs developing a friendship. At my time so far at the school gates, I'm not sure there's a single Mum I will remain friends with after DC moves on to new schools etc. But in this phase of my life - the parents of the children in DC's class are important.

I suppose I view other Mum's a bit like work colleagues. It would simply not be ok to take instant, or unjustified dislikes to people. It would not be acceptable to act in an excluding manner, blank people or actively try to avoid someone (even if they were pursuing you for a meeting and/or you didn't really like them).

In work mostly people are friendly, inclusive, and collaborative and it's much easier and nicer being that way and we have a lovely office culture. There are on occasion the 'difficult people' but you do your best to navigate them.

This is essentially how I approach parents, teachers, extra curricular parents/instructors and anyone else I need to be in association with while I raise my DC.

You can be open, friendly and inclusive without entertaining a friendship.

You can decline a playdate without leaving one Mum sat on the sidelines at a sports event. You can say no to a coffee, and still move with grace and wave/smile and exchange chit chat at the school gate (even if you've declined several times - you can still do this. You can say - I'm very sorry we just don't have the time at weekends and still turn up perfectly friendly and pleasant at the next event).

You can have a group of Mum friends which you do enjoy spending time, and which you may have a WhatsApp group and you can also see a lone Mum stood at the school gates and you can move to include her in the general waiting for the bell chatter.

That's being socially aware vs socially inept. If people can't switch and flex like this in social places then you are socially inept.

In work, people are paid to be there. It's in their interests to make it a pleasant environment.

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 09:48

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:44

Perhaps the other parent is thinking 'why won't this woman take the hint?' so maybe she sees her only option to actively ignore.
That doesn't mean she's not a good person.
Why is it her responsibility to accommodate social interaction that she clearly, for whatever reason, doesn't want?

OP has asked her twice, two months apart. She is hardly hassling her all the time? Two play dates isn’t really that bad. I think the other woman is rude based upon that personally. If OP had asked loads then I’d get it, but a few times with months between them really isn’t that bad.

Mary46 · 03/06/2025 09:49

Yes just move on. I wouldnt keep asking. Some I clicked with some not. I would never be rude though.

aster10 · 03/06/2025 09:50

I would say, no matter how hard we try to rationalise it to ourselves, it still hurts a lot when other people reject us. It hurts slightly less when it’s because these other people don’t want to have any more friends. And it hurts more if these other people reject us when we don’t earn enough or don’t live in the right village.

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 09:51

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 08:58

I disagree, I think ignoring people is rude. The person doesn’t have to have play dates or be a friend but she shouldn’t be avoiding eye contact and obviously avoiding.

I say that as someone with severe social anxiety and Audhd who really struggles with other people. The other parent isn’t being a good person, in my opinion.

I think repeatedly asking is also rude.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:51

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 09:00

She’s asked her two times with months apart. It’s not like she has been badgering her on a weekly basis.

None of us know how the OP has come across when inviting the other mum, though.
It may have seemed to the other mum that OP wanted friendship with her, rather than simply facilitating their sons' friendship.
I know I couldn't be arsed with that.

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 09:55

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 09:51

I think repeatedly asking is also rude.

Twice is barely ‘repeatedly’

Moonlightexpress · 03/06/2025 09:55

Eastie77Returns · 03/06/2025 01:16

It’s a rule on MN that school mums who do not smile and chat with other mums at the school gates are cliquey, rude, bitchy etc. Alternatively they must be depressed or suffering from anxiety.

It couldn’t simply be because they just do not wish to befriend a bunch of random women.

That rule does not apply to school dads though.

I think its a rule because in part its true. Many have the same experience, I came across the bitchyness, my sisters always use to moan, some of my friends .. and there's no excuse for rudness I'm afraid.. there's no other way to describe it. You mention it's not wanting to befriend a random bunch of women but no need to be rude about it. There was a couple of mums at primary school who never got involved with play dates or organising anything but always said hello and acted friendly... so looks like being rude.. is just being rude.

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 09:56

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:51

None of us know how the OP has come across when inviting the other mum, though.
It may have seemed to the other mum that OP wanted friendship with her, rather than simply facilitating their sons' friendship.
I know I couldn't be arsed with that.

Maybe, I think a play date and a disco doesn’t imply parental friendship but I guess without bearing her side we don’t know how she interpreted it. I still think she sounds rude though, personally.