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Step kids have moved out, DH is still funding them

308 replies

Clayless · 02/06/2025 16:35

Hi, apologies if this gets long.

DH and I have been together 8 years, he is half British, half . He has 2 children, twins who are 17. I have 2 children who are 14 and 12, together we have a 6 year old.

Until last summer DHs children were living in France, for various reasons they have come to live with us and do their last 2 years of school. While in France DH would see them on all their holidays including a long stint with his parents in the summer and he paid for them to attend an international school. Their mother passed away when they were 13, but they continued to live in France with their maternal grandparents as they didn’t want to move and he couldn’t move due to work and our child together.

Anyway when they arrived here we immediately enrolled them in independent schools, we shifted rooms about including having my 14 and 12 year old share as we only have a 5 bedroom house. We were excited to have them and have enjoyed having them live with us.

However, things seemed to take a turn after Christmas, I think they struggled with our more structured approach to parenting vs the more laissez faire style they were used to. Little things like knowing where they were at any given time, no boyfriends/girlfriends in their room. They only turned 17 in the middle of May.

His DD was easier than his DS. She immediately got a part time job saying we didn’t give her enough money and she hated being in the house with us. She works Saturdays and Wednesday evenings in a restaurant. Through this she met a 22 year old lad and they started dating. We said under no circumstances could he stay in her room but on several occasions we’d come home from work to him and her cuddling in her bed. She would also lie to us and say she was sleeping over at a friends but actually be at his.

His DS on the other hand would swear at us, tell us we were controlling etc. He would leave his room a total mess, he refused to do any chores, occasionally skipped school and just generally had no respect.

Now about 5 weeks ago (so still 16). We had taken my children and our little one to see my parents for the day, his 2 didn’t want to come. We got back and everything more or less was gone from his DD’s room. All her clothes, her expensive keyboard we bought, her expensive tennis rackets, books everything. When we asked his DS where she was he said she’d decided to move in with her 22 year old boyfriend. He refused to give an address and said “don’t worry I’ll be out of here soon too”. Eventually we were able to talk to her and she said she would still go to school but she wasn’t coming back to live with us as it was depressing and made her miserable. She kept pointing out she was 16 and could legally move out. We have been able to find out she’s living with her boyfriend in a flat share (seriously doubt the landlord knows she’s there or her age). DH was devastated but has decided not to force it.

2 weeks later his DS moved in with his maternal cousin (sleeping on his sofa) and is refusing to come back too.

DH is insisting he will still pay for their school, and is sending them money for the tube/clothes/food. He said the only thing he won’t be providing for them is money for rent as if they can’t afford that they can always come back here. He said he also won’t be asking them to return any of them items they took.

AIBU to think if they want provided for they should live here and if they are happy to no longer live here then we shouldn’t provide for them anymore?
We are struggling to make everything work financially and it feels like he doesn’t see that our child together and my children are now going without so his kids can through a strop!

OP posts:
WiseFinch · 02/06/2025 20:23

All I’m reading from this is two children (yes, children, 17 in full time education is a CHILD.) whose mother has died, father obviously feels guilty. Then they move back to the UK in what they thought was a home for them- you’ve made it so miserable for them they’ve run away from home.
I get your children are younger but no boyfriends/girlfriends in their room, seriously? Where else are they meant to go? You mention how your children have had to share as if you are aggrieved by their presence. Poor you in your 5 bed with DH who sounds rather rich (2x independent international school), your own DCs happy little family…
It’s their home too. Terrible behaviour from you and I hope you are feeling guilty.

ByBlueMoose · 02/06/2025 20:24

Grammarnut · 02/06/2025 19:39

She doesn't have to share. The OP has a five bed house. The OP's two DC (14 and 12) share and the two step DC have a room each. That leaves a room for OP and DH and a room for the six year old.

It may legal for a 17 year old to live with a 22 year old, but I would see it as a safeguarding issue, she is a minor, in law still a child. What happens when she falls out with him - which she will?

Child and family social services would definitely be interested if this situation was reported to them. Not just the DD living with a 22 year old but also the homeless 17 year old DS.

Hopefully the schools will find out and report it.

OP clearly doesn't give a shit about these children's lives and I highly suspect she wouldn't want the situation to be reported as her true behaviour will come to light.

She's minimised all of her behaviour in this as just different parenting to what they were used to and minimises the 17 year olds possible sexual exploitation by calling the 22 year old grown man a 'lad'.

Ezzee · 02/06/2025 20:30

Clayless · 02/06/2025 16:46

What was the alternative, they refused to move to the UK (maternal grandparents were fairly forceful on the “they can live with us don’t uproot them” at that point). I couldn’t move to France (50/50 co-parenting with my ex, he would never have allowed it). DH would have had to abandon our family and our child, not to mention be out of work at least temporarily. It wasn’t feasible.

So he chose you and your children that aren't his over his own children.
Absolutely shit parenting on both your parts, those poor kids, you really should be ashamed.

FilthyforFirth · 02/06/2025 20:30

Nailedier · 02/06/2025 17:28

So... you would live in a different country to your children if a court sided with your exDHand he took them? Or if he wanted to move to Nepal or somewhere and the court agreed you'd up and move there too? No questions asked.

I know people want to shit all over this guy but in reality the children's mother was the one who chose to move them away from their father. That's on her. Yes, he didn't follow them (we don't know the reasons why) but you can't really put all the blame on him.

Precisely that. If the court sided with my DH then I would be moving wherever they were. Pretty standard if you are a parent who loves their kids in my circle...

Mrsgreen100 · 02/06/2025 20:31

Wow
omg I’m not surprised they moved out

ButteredRadishes · 02/06/2025 20:33

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 19:00

Unlikely given they lived there for four years after their mum died. Their lives are a mess.

They appear to have moved here when they're were 16 (presumably around September?) so were with Granny perhaps 3 years maximum?

That's 3 tough years for all involved. A mother loses her daughter, takes in some 13 year old hormonal teenagers who have lost their mother, and who's father didn't step up. It's a lot to take on, so maybe it was just all getting too much?

Maybe dad wasn't sending enough money to feed and house two teenagers? Maybe the kids rebelled and pushed too hard? Maybe they just couldn't cope.

Whatever happened, the fault lies squarely with Dad for not being there properly at a critical time in their lives, he effectively choose his new family over those two kids.

babyproblems · 02/06/2025 20:34

My goodness what a time they’ve had. I feel very strongly you have zero empathy:..!!!
Their mother died and their lives have been seriously, seriously uprooted.
Your husband should absolutely keep paying and supporting them however he can. I would go so far as to say that he should actually buy a second home and move in there with them, his children, and help them establish a ‘normal’ and settled life and get them ready for the next part of their lives when they need to become really independent. If you carry on as you are, it will end terribly for them. Maybe drugs etc. And I suspect if that happens, you might find your DH resents you for your approach to it all.
Im shocked by how heartless your original post is tbh!

fuzzwuss · 02/06/2025 20:34

Mad that you think they should return the gifts they received from their father. A gift is exactly that, legally (and morally) ownership is transferred. They have taken their own things and have no obligation to return anything. Bizarre.

Askingforafriendtoday · 02/06/2025 20:36

YABVU, OP. No wonder they moved out. One of them is merely 3 years older than one of yours. Must be very difficult for your DH, of course he should still fund their schooing. I really hope you haven't let these unpleasant/unreasonable feelings of yours towards your stepchildren be known to their half brother and sister. It's a pity you didn't allow overnight stays, sounds safer

Channellingsophistication · 02/06/2025 20:39

Those poor children they only lost their mum four years ago at a really difficult age. They lived with their grandparents who were also grieving for their daughter. Dad goes back to the UK - has another family set up. You don't seem very sympathetic to them. No wonder they are deeply unhappy.

forthisBenvolio · 02/06/2025 20:39

I have teenagers around this age. The thought of what your DSC have been through, and the awful situation that they're in now is heartbreaking.

Your stepdaughter was so unhappy that she moved out at 16 to live with a 22 year old? And you want to 'cut her off' so she becomes even more vulnerable?

Jesus OP. One day, your own 'little family' will be the same age, and you might just have a moment when you realise how utterly horrible and heartless your behaviour is.

In its own way, this is one of the most upsetting MN threads I've read for a while.

Starlight7080 · 02/06/2025 20:44

ButteredRadishes · 02/06/2025 16:44

Okay. So they live in France away from their Dad (why did dad fuck off and live in a different country?) Then when they were 10, his dad had another child... Then they were 13, their mother died. Dad still didn't do anything... So they lived with GM for 2-3 years...and then we're uprooted to live with the (basically) absent father in a different country to live with the woman and children he chose over them.

Hmmm , I wonder why they're struggling... 🤔

Oh, and now Step mum thinks they should somehow magically be able to fund themselves at 17 ... Whilst having no mother, a father that owes them she'd load of love and time and no other options of somewhere to live.

Edited

This 100%
They obviously didn't feel welcome in your home .

Nailedier · 02/06/2025 20:45

ResidentPorker · 02/06/2025 19:17

They're his CHILDREN. And they still are children. It's not their fault their dad dumped them and moved countries to shack up with another woman. Christ OP put yourself in their shoes. Their mum is dead and their dad put his new wife ahead of them.

Please read the thread. Their dad didn't move countries, their mother moved them away from him.

Yes, they are his children, and yes he does have a financial responsibility to them. But that doesn't mean blindly funding anything they want. Yes they have to have education and food, that's fair - but they need time and attention, not limitless funds on poor choices.

Nailedier · 02/06/2025 20:48

FilthyforFirth · 02/06/2025 20:30

Precisely that. If the court sided with my DH then I would be moving wherever they were. Pretty standard if you are a parent who loves their kids in my circle...

OK

Praying4Peace · 02/06/2025 21:04

Thatsrhesummeroverthen · 02/06/2025 16:43

Goodness they are still so young. I thought you were going to say they were mid 20s. Of course it's going to be had for them to adjust to your home - and that works both ways. Poor kid losing their mum and their dad being in another country with his new family.

100% this
Very difficult for his older children who both wanted to move out

yakkity · 02/06/2025 21:10

arethereanyleftatall · 02/06/2025 17:22

This was an horrendously selfish decision on your part.

the child he has with you has two living parents

the children he had with his ex had one - him - living parents after the death of their mother

him moving to france, even temporarily, would have resulted in each of his children being with one of their parents

but no, you thought your child should get two parents, and his children, none

That is shocking.

yes, he should be paying for his children to go to school.
no, I’m not surprised they cannot stand you

This is a very weird take on it. He would have been unemployed and in able to pay for their schools had he gone. Great. Now the kids have to leave their school too. It’s not just easy to pick up and leave. He would not only be unemployed but be financing two homes. Stupid simplistic thinking or lack of thinking.

Zet1 · 02/06/2025 21:10

Clayless · 02/06/2025 16:46

What was the alternative, they refused to move to the UK (maternal grandparents were fairly forceful on the “they can live with us don’t uproot them” at that point). I couldn’t move to France (50/50 co-parenting with my ex, he would never have allowed it). DH would have had to abandon our family and our child, not to mention be out of work at least temporarily. It wasn’t feasible.

They are your family. I think you need to focus on connecting with them and not seeing them as separate.

yakkity · 02/06/2025 21:11

ResidentPorker · 02/06/2025 19:17

They're his CHILDREN. And they still are children. It's not their fault their dad dumped them and moved countries to shack up with another woman. Christ OP put yourself in their shoes. Their mum is dead and their dad put his new wife ahead of them.

Reading isn’t your strong suit is it

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 02/06/2025 21:20

It sounds like they have had a tough time and you and your husband were overly strict with them. You don’t need to know where a 16 year old is every minute of the day and it much be quite hard to transition to being in a different country to their to suddenly that level of rules. You could have tried to compromise on the boyfriend situation aswell.

they are his children and he should be paying for them (and trying to support them in non-financial ways too)

asprinklingofsugar · 02/06/2025 21:51

forthisBenvolio · 02/06/2025 20:39

I have teenagers around this age. The thought of what your DSC have been through, and the awful situation that they're in now is heartbreaking.

Your stepdaughter was so unhappy that she moved out at 16 to live with a 22 year old? And you want to 'cut her off' so she becomes even more vulnerable?

Jesus OP. One day, your own 'little family' will be the same age, and you might just have a moment when you realise how utterly horrible and heartless your behaviour is.

In its own way, this is one of the most upsetting MN threads I've read for a while.

Your second paragraph has also struck me. A 17 year old and a 22 year old is far from ideal - what sort of 22 year old guy is comfortable dating a girl of that age! Possibly someone who is not a great guy. (Could be wrong of course but my eyebrows always raise when someone in their 20s is willing to date someone who hasn’t reached adulthood yet).

Guessing from her point of view there may partly be a craving for attention she isn’t getting at home, and desperation to get out of the situation she is in. But the situation she’s in now could become worse if her boyfriend turns out to be controlling or jealous or abusive. Tbh she could be a prime target for a guy with those traits - young, lonely, no one really on her side in this country and probably easy to isolate because of her family situation and the fact she hasn’t been in England that long. And OP wants to cut her off financially? What so she becomes even more dependent on her boyfriend?! Not just for attention and love and housing, but also for money to survive. Madness!

Dad should definitely continue supporting not just so she has the financial ability to leave the boyfriend if needed, but also to show that he does care in some way and she can depend on him and turn to him if necessary.

Honestly these poor kids!

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 02/06/2025 21:57

I think 22 year old guy and 17 year old girl is fairly normal.
Sounds like she was also given more freedom in France and probably matured quicker due to not having parents around so the gap probably didn’t feel that big.

SunComeBack · 02/06/2025 21:58

Holy god there mum is dead, you should have picked your battles with messy rooms ect. Of course he should still pay for them; and arrange counselling.

grizzlyoldbear · 02/06/2025 22:09

This sounds like they have experienced severe emotional neglect due to circumstances which are not really anybody's fault.
But it's not too late. The best thing you can do, is try and re-build a connection. The kids sound lost and sad. Can you take them to a pub/bar for some dinner and try and meet them where they are at? I would apologise and say you'd like to get to know them better and ditch trying to do any parenting for now and prioritise a connection with them.

ByBlueMoose · 02/06/2025 22:11

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 02/06/2025 21:57

I think 22 year old guy and 17 year old girl is fairly normal.
Sounds like she was also given more freedom in France and probably matured quicker due to not having parents around so the gap probably didn’t feel that big.

A 17 year old child living with her 22 year old adult 'boyfriend" is not at all 'normal'. Or common.

She also only just turned 17 a few weeks ago. After she moved in with this 22 year old man when she was 16.

Do you know any 22 year old men? If they told you their 16 year old girlfriend had just moved in with them, would you think 'sounds normal to me'? or would you think 'what in the actual fuck is he doing having sex with a 16 year old let alone living with her and where are this girls parents and why don't they care?". I think most people would have that reaction.

And female children being 'more mature' for spurious reasons and that being a legitimate reason for adult men to want to fuck them is what sexual predators and their apologists have said, forever.

Newname71 · 02/06/2025 22:16

Whether they live with you or not they’re still his children. My oldest is 25 and lives in a rented house with his fiancée.6 months ago he lost his job. I’ve been giving him nearly half my wages for the last 6 months to cover his half of their outgoings.. It’s crippling me to the point I’ve had to go interest only on my mortgage for 6 months to give me some breathing space. But he’s my son, what else am I to do?