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AIBU?

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AIBU- pulling someone up on snarky comments.

637 replies

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 07:57

So I work and DH is retired. We have a dog. I work 4 days a week . On the days I work DH walks the dog in the morning and I walk it in the evening. My days off we swap it around.
There is a group of dog walkers that meet in the morning. One man thinks its hilarious to ask if Ive enjoyed my sleep in/ lazy day/ sending DH out while I relax ect.
every single time I see him. 2 years of me just ignoring him / saying I work ect.
I work in a unit that deals with palliative care. Yesterday was a bloody hard day.
So this morning he said it must be nice to laze about on a Sunday and send DH out so I let him have it with both barrels - told him ( in rough terms) what my day consisted of. That I was up and out by 6am. Long drive. The realities of my job.
He was silent. Got home and his wife has watsapped to say Ive upset him !@@.
AIBU to think he deserves it.

OP posts:
Guttyyyyyyyyy · 03/06/2025 19:31

EleanorReally · 03/06/2025 19:08

i bet he is an ex policeman male dominated worker

Bullseye !

OP posts:
nomas · 03/06/2025 19:40

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 03/06/2025 19:31

Bullseye !

I would give him a wide berth should you run into
him.

Don’t be alone with him.

EleanorReally · 03/06/2025 21:20

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 03/06/2025 19:31

Bullseye !

yup!

DangerousAlchemy · 04/06/2025 08:46

2chocolateoranges · 02/06/2025 08:48

Good for you sticking up for yourself comments like that get tiresome.

I had a friend who used to always comment on my long lies and lazy days when I was a SAHM. She's no longer a friend.

I used to get 'what's it like being a lady of leisure?' from a few different people when I was caring for my NEWBORN daughter. Honestly some people can p*s the p*s off!

Barrenfieldoffucks · 04/06/2025 09:00

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:58

You do see that it was suggested a few years ago that he leave

but he stayed

they kept him on the WhatsApp group etc

despite knowing he was a bully years ago

That was a different group! A community gardening group, not the dog walking one.

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 09:06

Boreded · 02/06/2025 13:31

What are you talking about?

and also…‘properly served’ - if you don’t like what someone says then tell them, nobody need to go full meltdown, just tell them politely that you don’t appreciate their comments and move on. It doesn’t have to be a race to the bottom

OP had pointed out again and again for 2 fucking years to Twuntychops that she was working. He never took heed. What else was she supposed to do? And saying she “went full meltdown” has an undertone of the misogynistic “hysterical wummin” - she may have been perfectly calm while giving him his dressing down.

You ARE defending him by continually saying OP is wrong in her actions. She’s not. You are. And it’s getting tedious now.

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 09:11

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 13:37

I didnt go full meltdown, no tears, shouting , swearing or stamping of feet.
I am a 52 year old professional in healthcare not a toddler.
Believe it or not giving information in a concise manner is part of my job .
I gave him the full, unvarnished lowdown on what I was actually doing yesterday, nothing more.

Love this response to that poster, OP. Good on you.

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 09:17

Boreded · 02/06/2025 13:54

Sorry @Guttyyyyyyyyy i wasn’t claiming you had gone full meltdown. It’s just the language used by previous poster indicated that they thought ‘properly served’ was an appropriate way to deal with someone, when it sounds like they are advocating for someone to kick off if this situation arose.

Back-pedalling faster than a circus acrobat.

You said “act disproportionately, as in this case” - clearly meaning you think OP went off on one. Now you’ve been corrected by OP, you’re trying to pretend you didn’t say that.

Nah.

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 09:30

@pimplebum and @Sagepage are 2 more posters with internalised misogyny who need to read the OP updates. She was not “exploding” she’s said she explained clearly and calmly what her job involves. The fact he has run home to get his wife to fight for him is up to his character, not hers.

I agree with @spicemaiden- women should be able to defend themselves without being characterised as mad, angry <insert sexist stereotype of your choice here>

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 09:35

HunnyPot · 02/06/2025 15:37

I bet you wouldn’t have spoken like that if a woman had made the same joke.

oh here we go. FFS. A woman likely wouldnt make the same sexist “joke” and not for 2 years. 2 years!

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 10:04

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 16:40

......and Annoying Fucker has left the Watsapp group.

Yaaaaaayyyy WIN

Sagepage · 04/06/2025 10:08

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 09:30

@pimplebum and @Sagepage are 2 more posters with internalised misogyny who need to read the OP updates. She was not “exploding” she’s said she explained clearly and calmly what her job involves. The fact he has run home to get his wife to fight for him is up to his character, not hers.

I agree with @spicemaiden- women should be able to defend themselves without being characterised as mad, angry <insert sexist stereotype of your choice here>

She said she gave him “both barrels” that literally means to go at someone with a high level of aggression. I have never said she should’ve accepted it, just I don’t know why she let it go on for two years! I repeatedly said she should’ve told him off sooner.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/06/2025 10:13

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 09:35

oh here we go. FFS. A woman likely wouldnt make the same sexist “joke” and not for 2 years. 2 years!

Agree. And if they did, and posted on MN whingeing about being called out on it they would almost certainly get the same response.

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 10:13

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 20:13

But she didn’t challenge him on his misogynistic or racist views, nor in solidarity with their fellow dog walker who did vote with their feet. She only gave both barrels as a result of being called lazy. The OP who continued to meet this person with the other dog walkers ignoring their disgusting opinions until they had a bad day at work and a menopausal rage. If his wife hadn’t text and he hadn’t left the group this afternoon chances are they would still be walking their dogs in the same group. Hardly the decent person that you refer to.

OP has just found out about the racist comments since this all started. She didn’t know before.

The reading comprehension on here sometimes reminds me why the U.K. average standard is 9-11 years old.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/06/2025 10:16

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 13:32

Also found out that it was suggested he leave a community gardening group a few years ago due to a bullying incident ( against a woman)

wtf…, they suggested it? And he said “nah, I’ll crack on”, and the group said “ok cool”?

No - ‘suggested he leave’ is a polite way of kicking him out. I doubt there was a choice.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/06/2025 10:21

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:23

None of the men in this group said anything over the years despite it now being evident that fellow walkers were definitely aware of his bullying and racism

But it’s not evident is it ? He doesn’t target men, and the only two women in the group he’s targeted are OP and another woman who left. The reason she left - because of his racist comments - has only just come to light, so it’s very possible that the full extent of his shitty comments is only just coming out now.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/06/2025 10:25

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:58

You do see that it was suggested a few years ago that he leave

but he stayed

they kept him on the WhatsApp group etc

despite knowing he was a bully years ago

Nope. Different group. Gardening club. He’s never been asked to leave the dog walking group.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/06/2025 10:30

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 17:29

Immediately other members of the group, actually the OP’s good male friend, jumped in and said he was aware of AF only doing this to women. So he’s heard, and done squat all! Just riding the wave of OP’s strength of character to confront him.

This is just nonsense. This has all surfaced since OP called him out - no-one knew why the other woman had left until then. You’re getting confused with the other group he was on. It was a gardening group and he was asked to leave because of similar comments, again, only directed at women. And again, it’s only just come to light that that happened. Nothing to do with the dog walking group. OPs male friend informed AF’s wife that he had been targeting the women with the comments.

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 10:40

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:58

You do see that it was suggested a few years ago that he leave

but he stayed

they kept him on the WhatsApp group etc

despite knowing he was a bully years ago

Where was it suggested that he leave? OP has just found out that He was asked to leave a different, gardening, group but nowhere that I can see does OP say he was asked to leave this informal dog walking gang?

Ponoka7 · 04/06/2025 11:14

Parkxyz · 03/06/2025 09:10

They are being crass, it’s because they don’t have anything else to say. It doesn’t matter what your job is or how hard you work it’s just their feeble attempt at making conversation.They are too thick (or don’t care) whether they are offending anyone.
I’ve know someone for years who always asks me where my suntan is when I come home from holiday,(I’m very pale skinned) I’ve learned to bat it back with “oh I knew there was something I needed to pack in my suitcase”. I get so sick of it! it’s their attempt to make the conversation all about them.
The same person asked me if my brother was “well cooked with bacon and sausages” when he was recently cremated!

Does he say the same things to men? Has he ever said the same re cremation to a man whose close relative it involved?

Rosscameasdoody · 04/06/2025 12:16

Ponoka7 · 04/06/2025 11:14

Does he say the same things to men? Has he ever said the same re cremation to a man whose close relative it involved?

I doubt it - he’d likely have a fat lip if he had !!

Rosscameasdoody · 04/06/2025 12:19

Blackdow · 03/06/2025 16:05

@Thesecondcoff

I’ve read the OP’s posts again. No one has asked this man to leave the dog walking group at all. Certainly not years ago.

You’re seething anger at the phrase “suggested he leave” is just very very odd. We all know what it means. It isn’t a request or optional. It’s being kicked out, but with polite wording. It’s just a turn of phrase and you need to calm down. The guy left a gardening group after being asked to. Now he has left this group after people started speaking about his behaviour openly.

Just calm down.

This poster pulled me up on another thread yesterday and intimated that there was something wrong with my reading and comprehension skills on that and other threads. Oh the irony !!

HunnyPot · 04/06/2025 14:17

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 09:35

oh here we go. FFS. A woman likely wouldnt make the same sexist “joke” and not for 2 years. 2 years!

Oh here we go assuming that we are all the same just because we are women.

Educate yourself and discover some of us are capable of critical thinking.

We’re not all glove puppets.

Spinachpastapicker · 04/06/2025 18:41

HunnyPot · 04/06/2025 14:17

Oh here we go assuming that we are all the same just because we are women.

Educate yourself and discover some of us are capable of critical thinking.

We’re not all glove puppets.

I am exceedingly well educated thank you. Hunny 😂

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/06/2025 18:45

I agree with you, @Spinachpastapicker - it seems like the sort of joke only a man would make, not the sort of thing women would say. Of course there are exceptions, and maybe some women would carry on making such an unfunny joke, even when their victim had explained why the joke was so wrong - but I can’t think there would be that many.