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To say it’s stressful havivg a beautiful daughter?

292 replies

TheBlueUniform · 02/06/2025 02:07

That’s it really. The attention they will draw and the fact they’ll have to grow up faster than they perhaps would. Men (including those that think that they have a right to chat up 16 year olds) will try it on and it makes me feel sick. DD is only 16 (though will be 17 in 4 months) but i already see men in their late 20’s:30’s leering at her and I get so mad and want to shout ‘she’s a child you creepy pervs’ but I don’t think anyone would care or react.

She isn’t a young child but she equally isn’t an adult yet and all the weirdos and creeps about make me feel so uneasy.

How do handle it if you’re in the same situation? I want to punch them all 😂

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tostaky · 02/06/2025 07:13

I get what you are saying but what about changing the narrative from a beautiful daughter to a strong/smart/sporty/whatever daughter?
i was a beautiful daughter but i was very unhappy in that role. I was a lot happier as a sporty/adventurous young woman and that got me the right attention and the respect i deserved. If you focus on beauty and looks, well people are going to remark beauty and looks. If you focus on sport (say) people will notice your adventures, your passion etc…
also not depending on look will give her more confidence about herself and she will be able to deal with men the way they should be dealt with.

IcyPlumOtter · 02/06/2025 07:14

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Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:17

Zanatdy · 02/06/2025 07:09

I don’t have any other daughters. Saying that one of your DC is conventionally more attractive than others is not saying your other DC are ugly. They are far from ugly. This place is really something. People here suggesting no-one is more attractive than others is ridiculous, as another poster said, to pretend you don’t notice some people are more attractive than others is disingenuous. It’s just all part of the mumsnet pile on, and quite frankly, ridiculous.

Over and out, I think some people here need to get themselves a hobby instead of picking holes and twisting words to try and make people feel / look bad. It’s like school ground bullying and you all need to quit doing it as it makes this place really toxic and nasty. Some people / children are more attractive than others. We all know it.

Well you’ve basically said you favour your beautiful daughter over your other children… I suggest you tell them other children you love them everyday and lie to them that you don’t think looks are important as I’d imagine you’re going to have some problems in the future unless they’ve already picked up on it. Some people really shouldn’t have children.

FlightCommanderPRJohnson · 02/06/2025 07:18

I have always been unattractive - not just plain, but ugly. The male attention I received in my teens was a barrage of insults. I remember once being on a school coach trip; we were parked at the side of the road waiting to leave, and a group of young men actually gathered in front of my window and made barking/howling noises at me until the coach pulled away. Numerous strangers doing similar, sometimes simply shouting 'you're ugly' at me from across the road.

It's far from ideal for women of any age to be letched at and perved over, but given the choice I would rather have had that than my lot in life.

Thank goodness for the invisibility cloak of middle age.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:20

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I predict your child is going to have issues when he’s older.

Everintroverte · 02/06/2025 07:21

I think everyone has experienced unwanted attention from men at all ages, including when very young. I know that I did from the age of about 12 and grew up around unhealthy examples of male behaviour.

Unfortunately I have witnessed men leering at my 17 year old daughter, this has been happening for the past few years. I normally catch the man's eye and say 'do you mind, shes x years old'. My daughter now has perfected a certain 'look' when she catches them staring that means they very quickly look away.

MidnightMusing5 · 02/06/2025 07:21

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 02/06/2025 02:20

I want to punch them all too. Makes me feel sick.

l think they leer at everyone though not just the beautiful. Mines 18 and very shy and quiet.

I was about to say this- I’ve seen ugly girls leered at . it’s usually what they are wearing that draws the attention.

Koalafan · 02/06/2025 07:21

FlightCommanderPRJohnson · 02/06/2025 07:18

I have always been unattractive - not just plain, but ugly. The male attention I received in my teens was a barrage of insults. I remember once being on a school coach trip; we were parked at the side of the road waiting to leave, and a group of young men actually gathered in front of my window and made barking/howling noises at me until the coach pulled away. Numerous strangers doing similar, sometimes simply shouting 'you're ugly' at me from across the road.

It's far from ideal for women of any age to be letched at and perved over, but given the choice I would rather have had that than my lot in life.

Thank goodness for the invisibility cloak of middle age.

The issue is the men (and occasionally other women) - they always find something to comment on, some way to either pull us down or to make us think we need their validation. We don't. I also think there's beauty in every human being, even if some folk fail to find it.

Depte · 02/06/2025 07:22

It’s no doubt stressful for your daughter Op….

having an odd bod for a mother

Koalafan · 02/06/2025 07:22

MidnightMusing5 · 02/06/2025 07:21

I was about to say this- I’ve seen ugly girls leered at . it’s usually what they are wearing that draws the attention.

'Ugly' girls? 🙄

IcyPlumOtter · 02/06/2025 07:23

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GrassRainbows · 02/06/2025 07:23

IcyPlumOtter · 02/06/2025 02:51

OP, that's disgusting. Pricks.

In my family my mum and aunt had the opposite problem - their mother was beautiful. It infuriated them as teenagers, having men leering and falling all over their mother, and if they said anything they were told they were jealous by the sleaze bag - as if. I can remember men flirting with her when I was a child and she was in her 60s then.

I don't know how I'd handle men treating a girl like they do your DD. I really don't. My son is quite beautiful - I've been told by several doctors, unprompted, his facial symmetry is really unusual - women tell him that he's goregous and he gets very shy (he's 12). But it's totally different because women don't leer at him.

Once on a tram in Melbourne a well known AFL footballer who was still at school (they did that 20+ years ago), got on a tram in his school uniform. He was 17. He was standing in the centre alise in sports shorts, and had a very muscular body. Like me, most of the women on board glanced at him, then studiously looked out the window. When he got off, a woman said loudly "Oh, thank god." And a tram full of strangers giggled, because we knew how she felt. He was gorgeous but he should not be stared at because he was a teen.

Jesus. School uniform?

I'm not sure this is quite the story you think it is.

I hope the poor boy himself was actually unaware at least.

Grim.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 02/06/2025 07:23

MidnightMusing5 · 02/06/2025 07:21

I was about to say this- I’ve seen ugly girls leered at . it’s usually what they are wearing that draws the attention.

That isn’t any less victim-blaming than saying that it was due to their beauty

I was assaulted wearing a baggy coat with my hair in a messy bun, btw.

Shodan · 02/06/2025 07:26

I was 11, not particularly attractive, not yet developed in the boob area, and wearing a stunning sludge green school duffel coat the first time I was perved on. The man (maybe about 20?) asked me if I was a virgin, then asked if I'd like not to be.

When my mum arrived (I'd been waiting for her to pick me up) she chased that fucker across the park and threatened to wash his mouth out with soap. I was weirdly embarrassed by her actions at the time but now obviously understand them.

Men can be disgusting and sadly a girl or woman doesn't have to be the most beautiful in the world to attract unwarranted and unpleasant attention.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:26

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You think it’s disgusting for 30/40 year olds to perv on a 16 year old but have no issue with people leering at your 12 year old son. How hypocritical. Your son is a child, you need to protect him not encourage sexualised comments 🤢

Vaglodger · 02/06/2025 07:28

NJLX2021 · 02/06/2025 03:15

Not to be rude to anyone.. but I'd take that over having an "unattractive" (horrible word, but still) daughter. Life and men are unfair, especially for women. The awful truth is that beautiful women have a huge advantage over ugly women in many aspects of life. Yes there are problems and you've listed the biggest one. But still, on balance, the awful society we live in gives these attractive girls a huge advantage over lesser looking girls.

fully agree with this. I have fully utilised my “pretty privilege” and feel very fortunate. However I’ve also been on the receiving end of pure jealousy a lot of my life. I’d still rather take the beauty as it’s granted me access to things I otherwise wouldn’t have experienced.

my daughter is very beautiful and although only 6 I can see the bitchiness starting already. It’s our jobs to equip them to handle both ends of the scale by teaching boundaries and self worth

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:29

MidnightMusing5 · 02/06/2025 07:21

I was about to say this- I’ve seen ugly girls leered at . it’s usually what they are wearing that draws the attention.

Jesus Christ. You know men rape babies and old women don’t you? I wonder if the baby was wearing something too short to entice the man?

IcyPlumOtter · 02/06/2025 07:30

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:26

You think it’s disgusting for 30/40 year olds to perv on a 16 year old but have no issue with people leering at your 12 year old son. How hypocritical. Your son is a child, you need to protect him not encourage sexualised comments 🤢

They are not leering at him. They are saying he has a beautiful face, which he does. And they are usually the mothers of his friends. Asian Australians in particular and Australians in general in my peers and my own age group do not think this is 'pedo' behaviour.

You have decided that's leering. I have never seen anyone leer at him.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:31

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Especially with a mother like you, let’s just get him on the street corner? Shall we 🤢

IcyPlumOtter · 02/06/2025 07:32

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ByBlueMoose · 02/06/2025 07:34

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:10

Yes. It’s pedo behaviour to say a child is beautiful. I’m in a clinical role and have to adhere to NMC standards, and I would never call a child or anyone beautiful. Completely inappropriate and unprofessional. Shane on you for allowing this.

You're a nurse and think it's 'paedo behaviour' to call a child beautiful?

How odd.

How are your chats with the safeguarding team going when you call them up to 'report suspected paedo, just called a child beautiful?'

And can you point me to the NMC standards about 'paedos'?

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:35

IcyPlumOtter · 02/06/2025 07:30

They are not leering at him. They are saying he has a beautiful face, which he does. And they are usually the mothers of his friends. Asian Australians in particular and Australians in general in my peers and my own age group do not think this is 'pedo' behaviour.

You have decided that's leering. I have never seen anyone leer at him.

We all know what you said. Stop making excuses and stop sexualising your 12 year old son

Tarrybankheidi · 02/06/2025 07:35

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 06:19

And? What does that matter if they have started puberty early?

It's nothing to do with when they started puberty. I think some people dont realise the age of the female they are looking at.

IcyPlumOtter · 02/06/2025 07:37

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Koalafan · 02/06/2025 07:37

'It's nothing to do with when they started puberty. I think some men people dont realise the age of the female they are looking at.'

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