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To say it’s stressful havivg a beautiful daughter?

292 replies

TheBlueUniform · 02/06/2025 02:07

That’s it really. The attention they will draw and the fact they’ll have to grow up faster than they perhaps would. Men (including those that think that they have a right to chat up 16 year olds) will try it on and it makes me feel sick. DD is only 16 (though will be 17 in 4 months) but i already see men in their late 20’s:30’s leering at her and I get so mad and want to shout ‘she’s a child you creepy pervs’ but I don’t think anyone would care or react.

She isn’t a young child but she equally isn’t an adult yet and all the weirdos and creeps about make me feel so uneasy.

How do handle it if you’re in the same situation? I want to punch them all 😂

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S0j0urn4r · 02/06/2025 12:48

Everyone's child is beautiful.
Sadly, I think all young women need some street smarts and support in handling these situations and how to stay safe.
I know they shouldn't have to think about this - none of us should - but that's the world we live in.

Petitchat · 02/06/2025 12:52

lifeonmars100 · 02/06/2025 10:25

I was beaten and sexually assaulted when I was 25 (and generally was called beautiful at that age) and then I was violently sexually assualted by a stranger on the street when I was 62. Some men do not think women are human beings.

Just awful, so sorry to hear Flowers

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 02/06/2025 12:52

I think this post might be designed to wind some people up!

Sadly, a young woman doesn’t need to be conventionally beautiful to attractive this sort of unwanted attention.

In fact it’s often those who might not consider themselves/ be considered by some others to be “beautiful” that are especially vulnerable to predatory men, as they are less confident and easier to prey on.

I did a lot work on prosecution of sexual offences in a previous job, and being conventionally attractive is not a factor that puts women at higher risk.

TheaBrandt1 · 02/06/2025 12:53

I’m not sure about the self defence thing. Even if you are a ninja the average man will be way stronger and will have the advantage of surprise if he is attacking you. Also might give girls a false sense of security. I know my response in extremis is to just freeze.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 02/06/2025 12:53

lifeonmars100 · 02/06/2025 10:25

I was beaten and sexually assaulted when I was 25 (and generally was called beautiful at that age) and then I was violently sexually assualted by a stranger on the street when I was 62. Some men do not think women are human beings.

I’m so sorry to hear this 😢

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 02/06/2025 12:58

Todayisaday · 02/06/2025 10:55

Men have allways been like this. I think we used to shout 'do you wanna picture you fucking pervert' very loudly if I remember. This used to work a treat.

I remember a friend of mine (who was stunning) and I used to sometimes take “super soaker” water guns out with us to spray the pervs who called through their van windows at us! Which was probably quite a dangerous thing to do but we survived.

I mean we probably only did this a few times, but we were young enough that we still played with water pistols and this was a thing for us.

TheBlueUniform · 02/06/2025 13:10

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 02/06/2025 12:52

I think this post might be designed to wind some people up!

Sadly, a young woman doesn’t need to be conventionally beautiful to attractive this sort of unwanted attention.

In fact it’s often those who might not consider themselves/ be considered by some others to be “beautiful” that are especially vulnerable to predatory men, as they are less confident and easier to prey on.

I did a lot work on prosecution of sexual offences in a previous job, and being conventionally attractive is not a factor that puts women at higher risk.

I can assure you it’s not to wind people up. It’s an issue many of us face. 16 year old girls these days look a lot better than they did in my day, they all seem to look perfectly polished, dress well and look
fabulous.

I posted about my personal experience and circumstances, I never said it doesn’t affect all women/females. It’s awful full stop and we shouldn’t have to put up with it

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TheBlueUniform · 02/06/2025 13:18

Sprinkles211 · 02/06/2025 03:24

I actively panic about this often, but my situation is my daughter has complex disabilities resulting in being mentally a toddler but appearing 'normal' she's beautiful, like stunning, chocolate hair to her waist, slightly olive skin and big brown eyes you can get lost in, she's only just turned 9 and I've sat on the floor and cried on the floor in my shower recently as her body is starting to change she's extra vulnerable because she's 100% dependent for all personal needs , I have to put my trust in so many people to help her and she would not be able to tell me or understand that someone could hurt her intentionally.

Bless you. I can totally imagine how hard this would be. Having to trust people with your precious daughter and hoping no one will take advantage. It’s must be really tough.

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WestwardHo1 · 02/06/2025 14:08

deusexmacintosh · 02/06/2025 12:06

And what about the teenage girls (and indeed, adults of all ages) who cannot learn self defence? Wheelchair users? Someone with aggressive multiple sclerosis or rheumatoid arthritis? Those with dyspraxia? Women and girls with autism, adhd, williams or downs syndrome? Those with poor motor co-ordination? Visual impairment? Deafness? Muscle weakness? Those with mutism or speech/ processing delays who can't fire back at catcallers with a witty retort or call for help?

There are at least 3 million women and girls who'd fit into those categories. How do you practice self defence when you're slower, weaker, less aware of danger or able to respond?

I notice not one poster has responded to the lady on page 1 who was worried about her learning disabled daughter. Very telling.

The solution here goes beyond learning karate, which in the real world is nor going to protect you against a 6ft, 15 stone harasser who can bat away any woman's attempts like a fly.

We need reform of self defence laws that allow vulnerable women to arm themselves, be that with pepper spray, acid, a gun... whatever. Dangerous men only respond to the threat of immediate, severe violence.

Even having a male chaperone is no protection - look at the case last year of the male rapist who beat up a guy on a night out before raping his girlfriend on their way home from a bar. A gun would have stopped him in his tracks.

Being allowed to wander around armed has never been a solution to anything. I can't believe you think it would solve this.

There's no sexual harassment or sexual assaults in the USA according to this logic.

Tractorcrisis · 02/06/2025 16:30

@WestwardHo1

I don’t know TBH. But I do think society needs to work really hard on not portraying women as pretty, or subservient, or having to have plastic surgery, that their worth is how appealing they look to men, or that Disney princess ideal of finding the perfect man and getting married for life.

DD is the opposite of that and I have to work hard on not influencing her with any subconscious stereotypes that I’ve grown up with, because I think the way she views it is better than my views on gender growing up.

Superchulo32 · 02/06/2025 17:05

16 is not a child, she can legally consent. You need to chill

OnlyLittleOldMe · 02/06/2025 17:17

Teach her how to have confidence to tell them where to go. To F off if necessary or to report them to someone in authority in whatever establishment she's in.

HRTQueen · 02/06/2025 17:18

Creepy men will leer at any young women and some will leer at girls its disgusting they are disgusting

I am not sure what is the best way to deal with this and calling them out will not always feel safe but to teach girls and young women it is the men who are being inappropriate

changedusernameforthis1 · 02/06/2025 17:23

I think, unfortunately, it's something that all parents of girls stress about.

But I do get what you mean. DD is almost 7 and a lot of people compliment her when out and about -especially her hair (I'm quite jealous of it if I'm being honest, it just behaves whereas I have a nest at the best of times).
However the issue we have at the moment is other girls - she's come home in tears more than once because she's been called ugly and weird looking and I know I'm biased, but she's really not either of those things.

I'm sure when I was younger the bitchy jealousy only started in high school!

Dancingintherain09 · 02/06/2025 17:26

I can remember as a 13 year old a man of about 30+ saying " I'd go to prison for that." Loudly to his mates as I walked past. It made me feel so threatened and unsafe. I was in the middle of town in the daytime going to meet friends. This was before mobile phones. Some men are just creeps and think they are owed something by women.
I have had issues with a guy in a pub as an adult too. Luckily my military husband wasn't very far away , Myself and friends went into bar to meet another friends, our husbands who were in the previous bar finishing their pints . The creep thought he had the right to pat my bum as I walked past. I told him if he touched my again he'd regret it, cue him calling me a slut and a tease. (I was wearing a dress ready to go onto a birthday party) I hadn't even noticed him until he touched me. Messaged hubby and he was straight over with the rest of the men. Creepy guy practically ran out the pub. Ths is just one in a long list of entitled creepy men stories 😭

Lardychops · 02/06/2025 17:38

NJLX2021 · 02/06/2025 03:45

I agree that it is horrible.. but it's also the truth. We can fight against it, but just like the reality of short vs tall men, rich vs poor kids etc. life is unfair in so many horrible ways.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't try and fight against it, but I also think it needs to be pointed out to mum's like the op - that when they are worrying about their pretty daughter, actually on balance their daughter is in a lucky and privileged position amoing girls.

Let’s of solid research about on ‘attractiveness privilege’ starting in childhood.

TaupeMember · 02/06/2025 17:43

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 04:11

This 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼looks fade and only take you so far. Personality and have brains last forever. Most people that think like this peak in high school 🤭

You both sound really jealous of those more beautiful than you growing up... whilst trying to sound the opposite.

What horrible attitudes.

User14March · 02/06/2025 17:45

Lardychops · 02/06/2025 17:38

Let’s of solid research about on ‘attractiveness privilege’ starting in childhood.

What about the expression ‘attractive in the cradle, ugly at the table’. Great looks don’t always endure to adulthood.

TaupeMember · 02/06/2025 17:57

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:10

Yes. It’s pedo behaviour to say a child is beautiful. I’m in a clinical role and have to adhere to NMC standards, and I would never call a child or anyone beautiful. Completely inappropriate and unprofessional. Shane on you for allowing this.

The crap you're coming out with!

TaupeMember · 02/06/2025 18:00

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:17

Well you’ve basically said you favour your beautiful daughter over your other children… I suggest you tell them other children you love them everyday and lie to them that you don’t think looks are important as I’d imagine you’re going to have some problems in the future unless they’ve already picked up on it. Some people really shouldn’t have children.

What thr heck are you on about? You should leave her alone. Gor some reason, it's really irked you she's accepted that one of her children is more attractive than the other two.
So what? I'm sure she's noticed which of them is funniest/ most academic etc too.

Or is that despicable too?

What is your problem,? You're hounding this poster.

Disturbia81 · 02/06/2025 18:01

ShakeItLoose · 02/06/2025 02:44

I’m sure your daughter is lovely, but a lot of men just leer at any female from about aged 13, regardless. Sick bastards.

This. I’ll never forget how I started getting attention age 12 when before that I was considered a child and someone to be fatherly towards. Suddenly it was this insidious, hunted prey feeling
Sick cunts.

TaupeMember · 02/06/2025 18:03

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 07:53

By these comments if she’s beautiful she should be lucky to get attention from men, even at 12. It’s also got to do with what she wears because men can’t help themselves… yes these are comments from some posters 👀

Literally nobody has said that.

I'm just catching up with this thread and you're so full of hyperbole and aggression...

Tarrybankheidi · 02/06/2025 18:05

TaupeMember · 02/06/2025 18:03

Literally nobody has said that.

I'm just catching up with this thread and you're so full of hyperbole and aggression...

I think that poster woke up on the wrong side of the bed to put it nicely.

TaupeMember · 02/06/2025 18:06

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 08:03

“Ugly women” still get raped. As do babies and old women.

What does your reply have to do with the comment?

Yes, babies get raped. Doesn't mitigate the fact being very attractive will get you more attention.

Why are you so loathe to admit that?

Lashing out at anyone who even hints at it!

TaupeMember · 02/06/2025 18:07

Tarrybankheidi · 02/06/2025 18:05

I think that poster woke up on the wrong side of the bed to put it nicely.

I need to stop replying!