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My sister is such a cow!!

266 replies

PIPERHELLO · 31/05/2025 22:19

It’s a big milestone birthday for my mum (90), and I’m putting together a scrapbook of family photos, messages etc. Months ago I asked everyone to send brief messages / photos / memories for inclusion. Pretty much everyone has, except my eldest sister who tells me she ‘hasn’t got time’ and that it’s a gift from me, and she’s already got her gift sorted! 🤦‍♀️ Kind of not the point!!

Sadly, she has form here. She often doesn’t support me on this type of thing. So I’m not that surprised.

What I want to do is send her a reply saying she’s sort of missing the point, and how hard can it be to send a few photos & a message. But - am I right in thinking there’s little point! She’s not stupid. She’s doing it to try & sink my idea, simple as that. (She won’t - I’ve got loads of other nice stuff to include!)

AIBU in thinking she’s a complete cow??

OP posts:
PIPERHELLO · 01/06/2025 00:18

PorgyandBess · 01/06/2025 00:17

I’d just carry on without her contribution. She might be uncomfortable with the idea, I know I would be.

Yes, I’ve found a few nice photos of her to include so I think I’m just going to try & make her opt-out as un-noticeable as possible.

OP posts:
ShortyShorts · 01/06/2025 00:21

5128gap · 01/06/2025 00:10

Well she is ruining OPs idea, isn't she? Her mum is getting a momento of her life and for reasons unknown her oldest daughter can't be bothered to send a photo and a word or two to complete it. I think this is really weird behaviour from the sister, who can't bring herself to do for her own mother's pleasure what she'd probably do for a colleagues retirement. If you don't think she's motivated by jealousy at the OP being the organiser, what reason do you think she has for being so awkward?

If you don't think she's motivated by jealousy at the OP being the organiser, what reason do you think she has for being so awkward?

I think she's probably just pissed off as the OP has form for these 'projects', clearly doesn't like her sister, thinks her sister is 'jealous of her confidence' and has a penchant for calling her sister a 'cow' on a public forum.

That and the obvious bad history between the two of them, are just a few reasons.

Ultimately we have two grown women squabbling like 9 year olds and their poor mum has probably had a belly full of it their whole lives.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 01/06/2025 00:24

ShortyShorts · 01/06/2025 00:14

Polls aren't generally representative of anything other than people reading the opening post, and clicking one of the options.

I think a lot of polls would have very different results if people had to scroll to the end of the thread, before voting.

I was kind of with you a little bit after reading the OP, but your subsequent posts made me feel very differently.

Quite, and people don't bother to go back and change the vote after the follow up posts.

PotatoBreadForTheWin · 01/06/2025 00:24

Caligirl80 · 31/05/2025 23:25

A different perspective for you - which you will likely disagree with, but you asked for opinions so give this one a try:

She never asked you to put this together - if she had and is now reneging on helping, then she would be behaving improperly. As it is: she never asked you to do this. If you wanted to put a memory book together with photos etc then it was your idea and your responsibility to put it together - no doubt there are loads of photos and other info you can use. She's not obligated to do something just because you think it's a good idea.

As for calling her "a cow" - wow. If you don't have a good relationship with her then why on earth would you poke that bear and place expectations on her to help you (again, she never asked for you to do any of this) with a gift??? Why did you decide to involve her when you already knew that there was a chance she wouldn't want to be involved and would want to do her own thing for your mum's birthday?? Seems like you already knew it might not be an idea or project that she would be particularly interested in, so why create drama or a potential for drama when you already knew that there was a likelihood that it wouldn't be something she'd be interested in??

Sadly this pattern happens a lot in dysfunctional family relationships: People don't take the hint, and they continue to try to force a square peg into a round hole. You continue to create situations of expectation, and then be upset/annoyed when your sister doesn't do what you are expecting her to do. The thing is: you didn't need to create that situation of potential conflict. You could have chosen to make your own memory book and put in your own selection of photos etc etc - no one asked you to put it together. Furthermore, people who go down this route of expecting actions/behaviour from people constantly set themselves up to be disappointed and to be annoyed: you know that your sister "has form" in that regard, so why do you keep on poking her with these expectations? You cannot expect other people to change their behaviour - the only behaviour you can change is your own. As for expectations: stop having them! Control what you can control, and stop creating situations that may also create disappointment. Also be aware: sometimes people create these situations of potential conflict because they - consciously or unconsciously - "like" the drama they create. Some people use these situations as a means of trying to feel superior (as in "oh my sister is being a jerk again! this time she...") or because they actually do get a buzz from conflict and the attention that they get when conflict happens. This may not be the case for you, but it's something to be aware of and ponder if this seems to be something that happens to you in other relationships too.

From now on: manage your expectations when it comes to your sister. Stop creating situations where you expect anything of her. Let her sort out her gifts and what she is going to do to celebrate your mum. Do you do your thing and let her do hers.

Very diplomatically put.

OP sounds just like my own sister, a complete pain in the arse who needs more to do in her life so that she can stop dreaming up crap like this and trying to commandeer others to take part. As you can see I am not so diplomatic.

ShortyShorts · 01/06/2025 00:26

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 01/06/2025 00:24

Quite, and people don't bother to go back and change the vote after the follow up posts.

There's a surprising number of people who aren't aware you can change your vote.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 01/06/2025 00:42

She’s always had issues with the fact that I’ve been more confident and outgoing than her, and this is how it manifests…sadly.

I just want to shake her & tell her what a selfish cow I feel she’s being.

Jealousy, possibly?!!

"Find a couple of photos of your Mum and your sister, where your sister looks ropey and include them!"
Hahahaha!! Love it!

She doesn’t like the fact that the gift that may well mean the most to my mum will have originated from me.

the gift that may well mean the most to my mum

AIBU in thinking she’s a complete cow??

this project / gift is much bigger than her, she’s just a small part of a big family

She often doesn’t support me on this type of thing. So I’m not that surprised.....

Your posts aren't out of concern, there's no warmth whatsoever.

Get you wanting to vent, but,
If you aren't so surprised, why ask her, why follow up 4 times, why post on here,
why turn it into a big deal, why keep on?

You disagree with posters giving possible reasons for your sister's refusal but agree with everyone bashing her.

She (unsurprisingly) said No.

Caligirl80 · 01/06/2025 00:43

PotatoBreadForTheWin · 01/06/2025 00:24

Very diplomatically put.

OP sounds just like my own sister, a complete pain in the arse who needs more to do in her life so that she can stop dreaming up crap like this and trying to commandeer others to take part. As you can see I am not so diplomatic.

I totally understand and agree with where you are coming from lol! Definitely have one of these "obsessive planners and organisers" in my extended family - and they are insufferable. They tend to like to have something to complain about, or a cross to martyr themselves on, and if there isn't a cross available they will concoct some drama to writhe around in.

A closer family member was starting to go down that path but those expectations got managed very quickly and boundaries were put in place to make sure they knew that sort of behaviour was not appropriate and was going to cause unnecessary drama. I think most people are smart enough to realise that "joint" gifts are a source of potential drama and that the best way to avoid that drama is to just do your own thing. Sadly there are people in the world who seek out opportunities to either reinforce their concerns/annoyances, or who go further and have a psychological issue that means they confuse drama with attention: they can't get people to like them, so the way they get them to pay attention to them and interact with them is to cause annoyance. It's a sad situation to be in, but if the individual wants to get better then CBT and related therapies can be very helpful (I realise I'm preaching to the converted so my points are for other people who may be reading).

Caligirl80 · 01/06/2025 00:45

Sheepsheeps · 31/05/2025 23:46

I'm going to go against the grain here too....
So did you discuss with everyone before implementing this gift idea to see if everyone wanted to do it or did you take it upon yourself to do it anyway assuming everyone would participate regardless?? Why go ahead with a gift that would potentially divide people anyway?
I hate it when people do this as they think the moment one person doesn't want to join in that they are a scrooge and have 'ruined' their amazing plan of the best gift ever.

TBH, you're not sounding particularly mature here......

I totally agree with you.

MsTTT · 01/06/2025 00:54

PIPERHELLO · 31/05/2025 23:59

The word narcissist seems to get bandied around like sweets these days. I suspect half the people using the word don’t really know shag it even means!

You seem to not understand the word I used- “narcissistic”. I didn’t say you were a narcissist.

Just a quick distinction—calling someone a narcissist is saying they are one, like they have a narcissistic personality disorder or deeply ingrained traits. That’s a big claim and usually needs more context or even a diagnosis, which obviously could never be done on a chat forum. Saying someone is acting narcissistic, on the other hand, just means their behaviour in a certain moment or situation seems self-absorbed, attention-seeking, or lacking empathy. It’s like the difference between saying someone is rude vs being rude right now. One’s a label, the other’s an observation.

cremebruleee · 01/06/2025 00:55

The only one who looks stupid here is her. So just carry on and make the scrap book without her. It’s a lovely idea.

Caligirl80 · 01/06/2025 00:56

PIPERHELLO · 01/06/2025 00:08

The poll would indicate you’re wrong.

I imagine a lot of people would change their minds if they read the whole post history rather than just the original post: the additional information you provided casts you in a far more negative light than the information provided in the initial post. Including the "sewing project" and your comments that make it seem that you have some kind of desire for your gift to be viewed as "the best" or for your sister to be "jealous" of what you are doing. That is the kind of spiteful school girl logic that you should have ditched from your mentality many decades ago. Grow the heck up!!!!

Again: You are in your sixties! This kind of behaviour is unbecoming! Make a photobook or don't make a photobook, it really doesn't matter. Just stop expecting your sister - or anyone else for that matter - to join in with your projects. From now on: do your projects yourself. If someone wants to join in let them ask, stop with the expectations and the drama. It is a bit ridiculous that this is the same advice I had to give to a 14 year old girl the other day who was upset at school, but here we are. Hopefully she will listen and won't still be making the same expectations errors decades later in her sixties! I hate to think how much wasted time and angst youve expended over the years with this petty silliness.

NeymeChenge · 01/06/2025 01:03

I’d just leave a blank space where you were expecting your sister to contribute and if your mum asks about it, just explain that she didn’t participate. Let that sort itself out on its own.

Threepiece · 01/06/2025 01:05

PorgyandBess · 01/06/2025 00:17

I’d just carry on without her contribution. She might be uncomfortable with the idea, I know I would be.

Really? Genuinely, how come?

Threepiece · 01/06/2025 01:08

Caligirl80 · 01/06/2025 00:56

I imagine a lot of people would change their minds if they read the whole post history rather than just the original post: the additional information you provided casts you in a far more negative light than the information provided in the initial post. Including the "sewing project" and your comments that make it seem that you have some kind of desire for your gift to be viewed as "the best" or for your sister to be "jealous" of what you are doing. That is the kind of spiteful school girl logic that you should have ditched from your mentality many decades ago. Grow the heck up!!!!

Again: You are in your sixties! This kind of behaviour is unbecoming! Make a photobook or don't make a photobook, it really doesn't matter. Just stop expecting your sister - or anyone else for that matter - to join in with your projects. From now on: do your projects yourself. If someone wants to join in let them ask, stop with the expectations and the drama. It is a bit ridiculous that this is the same advice I had to give to a 14 year old girl the other day who was upset at school, but here we are. Hopefully she will listen and won't still be making the same expectations errors decades later in her sixties! I hate to think how much wasted time and angst youve expended over the years with this petty silliness.

I mean, your take on it is quite dramatic too and comparing her to a 14 year old? It’s a memory book for a ninety-year-old woman, even if she’s busy and not super keen she could probably just take five mins and send a couple of pictures and a few nice words. But if she doesn’t want to, I’m not sure why that makes the OP childish? Unless it feels good to suggest that to someone? I sometimes tell my 14-year-old ‘if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all’ 😊

SecondVerseSameAsThe1st · 01/06/2025 01:15

44PumpLane · 31/05/2025 22:23

Find a couple of photos of your Mum and your sister, where your sister looks ropey and include them! Then when she complains just tell her she had her chance to send over some that she liked and that you think she looks lovely in the pics 😂

I like this idea!

Caligirl80 · 01/06/2025 01:16

Threepiece · 01/06/2025 01:08

I mean, your take on it is quite dramatic too and comparing her to a 14 year old? It’s a memory book for a ninety-year-old woman, even if she’s busy and not super keen she could probably just take five mins and send a couple of pictures and a few nice words. But if she doesn’t want to, I’m not sure why that makes the OP childish? Unless it feels good to suggest that to someone? I sometimes tell my 14-year-old ‘if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all’ 😊

You're forgetting the fact that the OP asked for opinions - and when you do that you have to expect a range of them, and for people to be honest. There are some other sayings I'm sure you tell your kids: including sometimes having to be cruel to be kind etc etc etc.

You clearly have your own boundary issues: if you ask someone to do something then you have to be happy with a potential answer being "no". Whether or not the idea is "nice" or not is irrelevant. The sister's "no" response is perfectly valid and should be respected. Maybe you have problems taking no for an answer?

Psychoticbreak · 01/06/2025 01:17

@Threepiece saying nothing at all is showing your child they do not need to set boundaries and to be honest the OP sounds more and more up her own arse as she posts. Her sister said no. OP cannot compute somebody saying no to her. As I said in my other post not all kids have the same parents even if it is the same human. My mother abused me, loved my sister and my sister would do this photoshite too. Not everyone needs to be nor should be a 'yes' person to appease others. OP comes across as the golden child of a narcissistic parent and her sister the scapegoat and if that is the case, and it was with me, then no way would I be considering wasting my time trying to fill in a memory book on behalf of the other sibling who wants to make it.

Threepiece · 01/06/2025 01:19

Caligirl80 · 01/06/2025 01:16

You're forgetting the fact that the OP asked for opinions - and when you do that you have to expect a range of them, and for people to be honest. There are some other sayings I'm sure you tell your kids: including sometimes having to be cruel to be kind etc etc etc.

You clearly have your own boundary issues: if you ask someone to do something then you have to be happy with a potential answer being "no". Whether or not the idea is "nice" or not is irrelevant. The sister's "no" response is perfectly valid and should be respected. Maybe you have problems taking no for an answer?

No, not forgetting. Just like you said, different opinions.

Threepiece · 01/06/2025 01:22

Psychoticbreak · 01/06/2025 01:17

@Threepiece saying nothing at all is showing your child they do not need to set boundaries and to be honest the OP sounds more and more up her own arse as she posts. Her sister said no. OP cannot compute somebody saying no to her. As I said in my other post not all kids have the same parents even if it is the same human. My mother abused me, loved my sister and my sister would do this photoshite too. Not everyone needs to be nor should be a 'yes' person to appease others. OP comes across as the golden child of a narcissistic parent and her sister the scapegoat and if that is the case, and it was with me, then no way would I be considering wasting my time trying to fill in a memory book on behalf of the other sibling who wants to make it.

I do always wonder why people expect OPs to stay beautifully calm, thoughtful and kind, when they’re getting quite aggressive responses? I mean we’re not talking about the thoughtful ‘perhaps your sister might have other reasons’ posts, we’re talking about the ones suggesting OP is thoughtless, looking for glory or diagnosing her as a narcissist. But - each to their own with acceptable boundaries.

Caligirl80 · 01/06/2025 01:22

Threepiece · 01/06/2025 01:05

Really? Genuinely, how come?

Have you not read the other posts? Including OP's admission that she's tried to force these "joint projects" on her relatives before, again without actually consulting anyone to see if it was something they'd actually want to do? Assuming that people will like the same things you like is not a pleasant personality trait. You may think a photo memory book is lovely idea, but for many other people they'd find such a thing utterly noxious - particularly if they already have the same photos. Or don't have pleasant memories of family times. Which is the case for a lot of people. As such being part of a project that involves looking back over old photos could be incredibly unpleasant. They may get on with a parent now, but it could have taken them a lot of hard work and therapy to be able to do that. Or they might like their mum but really find their siblings utterly insufferable. The point being: forcing your "happy families" viewpoint on others isn't terribly helpful.

Threepiece · 01/06/2025 01:24

Caligirl80 · 01/06/2025 01:22

Have you not read the other posts? Including OP's admission that she's tried to force these "joint projects" on her relatives before, again without actually consulting anyone to see if it was something they'd actually want to do? Assuming that people will like the same things you like is not a pleasant personality trait. You may think a photo memory book is lovely idea, but for many other people they'd find such a thing utterly noxious - particularly if they already have the same photos. Or don't have pleasant memories of family times. Which is the case for a lot of people. As such being part of a project that involves looking back over old photos could be incredibly unpleasant. They may get on with a parent now, but it could have taken them a lot of hard work and therapy to be able to do that. Or they might like their mum but really find their siblings utterly insufferable. The point being: forcing your "happy families" viewpoint on others isn't terribly helpful.

Fair enough. I mean it’s just a photo book not a year long documentary but ok.

Caligirl80 · 01/06/2025 01:27

Threepiece · 01/06/2025 01:19

No, not forgetting. Just like you said, different opinions.

Yup - you forgot. You told me to keep my opinions to myself, but the OP clearly asked for those opinions to be shared. The alternative, if you are saying you didn't forget, is that you are the kind of person who thinks that people should either agree with you or shut up. Which is a very unfortunate personality trait. If you think that people shouldn't share negative opinions on a page that is clearly titled "am I being unreasonable" then you don't really understand the point of the forum.

MummoMa · 01/06/2025 01:28

It's a nice idea OP, but your deciding to do something doesn't make it compulsory for other people to participate.

Having been through a hard place where I honestly wouldn't have had the mental space to do this in a timely fashion, I say just take that she doesn't have time at face value and continue with your project by yourself. She has her own ideas.

forthisBenvolio · 01/06/2025 02:39

Spirallingdownwards · 31/05/2025 22:33

I have a different point of view I'm afraid. My relationship with my parents was very different to that of my sister's with them.

This sounds exactly like the kind of thing my sister would do and I would probably also decline to participate on the basis of saying nothing is better than saying what I would really want to say. I wouldn't feel the need to contribute nor would I worry that my non participation may be noticeable.

Only your sister knows why she is choosing not to join in but perhaps she has a similar reason.

She may feel more comfortable giving a less personal gift in such circumstances.

Edited

I have the same experience here. I was treated very differently to my sister growing up, and she has NO idea about it. She left for university, and my life was awful. She idolises my mum and won't hear a single word against her.

We've just had a family celebration for my mum - my sister wanted speeches, photographs etc. I found it very, very difficult.

LAMPS1 · 01/06/2025 03:03

You know for certain that she is trying to undermine you and sink your idea. Yet you have gone back to her 4 times already, prompting her, trying to get her to change her mind and now want advice on how to word yet another message to her, saying that she has missed the point.

It would be better if you left it alone now OP otherwise it’s you who looks like the controlling baddie in this situation. It will be you who looks like the one missing the point. Your sister has stated she doesn’t have time and has already sorted her gift. You must accept that and stop antagonising her. She probably feels harassed by you and your project already.
You are in danger of now taking it too far and using the memory album as a weapon to highlight her refusal of your invitation to take part which she is perfectly entitled to do. Just do the best you can and minimise the absence of her contribution. You sound very experienced in producing nice mementoes like this so shouldn’t have a problem covering for her. It’s simply about ensuring you are not hurting your mum with your otherwise very thoughtful gift.

AIBU in thinking she’s a complete cow??
You can think whatever you like of course.
But you would be very unreasonable to highlight your negative thoughts about her in any way to your mum.
From what you have written, I do feel your OP title isn’t justified. Your sister is just a different sort of person to you.

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