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Colleague made sarky comment about me re. GB News

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OneStepBeyondd · 30/05/2025 22:21

Discussion at work earlier - does anyone watch the news. Another colleague and I said we don’t mind GB news on occasion to which someone said (directed at me) - ‘I didn’t have you down as one of them’ in a judgemental tone.

Is it me or is that a bit rude and unnecessary?

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BIWI · 01/06/2025 21:15

Didntask · 01/06/2025 18:53

Accurate though.

Oh please. Engage your brain.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 01/06/2025 21:16

Etaerio · 01/06/2025 21:01

You really threw your toys out of the pram when you realised that your virtue signalling wasn't going to receive the validation you craved. Never mind, you can still post in The Guardian's comments section. 😆

No, I merely pointed out that you were actually the one pointing out to the world what a wonderful public service you were providing. I found it quite amusing tbh.

I'm really not sure why you think I was craving validation from this thread. It would be rather foolish for someone like me to look for validation on a thread full of raving right wingers! Grin

I just find it interesting that those on the right are often so quick to assume that people who disagree with them must just be virtue signalling. It implies that they somehow perceive our position as being inherently more "virtuous", even though they apparently think we're only saying it to get approval. It's an odd vote of confidence in a way.

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/06/2025 21:16

justasking111 · 01/06/2025 21:07

Some people blindly follow one particular political party without question. Attacking any questioners.

WHY?

It's the GB News way.🤷‍♀️

Don't think. Don't fact check. Don't reflect. Just attack.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 01/06/2025 23:01

Etaerio · 01/06/2025 16:43

I agree. And I agree that it would better if debates around taxation and public expenditure were more nuanced than the usual 'austerity bad/benefit scroungers' simplistic sloganeering we hear. But taxation is just a necessary evil - it is the state removing individuals' possessions, it reduces their living standards, and it distorts economic incentives. So starting from a position of, ceteris paribus, we should look to have a low level of taxation, is entirely sensible.

Hmmm. I don't agree with "taxation is just a necessary evil - it is the state removing individuals' possessions, it reduces their living standards, and it distorts economic incentives". That's the same fallacy as "the bosses just exploit the labourers" - both ignore the investment that facilitates the profit, without which the individual wouldn't have been able to generate the wealth at all. Roads, education, rule of law, a populace with the means to purchase, all of this needs to exist in order for the "individual" to generate the income in the first place.

So I see the state more like a silent partner in every private endeavour, putting up a huge slug of investment in the basic infrastructure that underpins the visible businesses.

And it's not just about the state/the economy faciliating wealth generation. Wealth itself requires a functioning economy to be meaningful. No good having the theoretical means to commission a superyacht if there's no trained engineers to design and build it, or roads to deliver the materials, or regulated banking system to pay through.

The big challenge to all this of course is global competition for capital, where states are forced into short-termism by undercutting each other in taxation to attrtact/maintain capital, but then are unable to fund the infrastructure necessary for long term stability of that capital.

justasking111 · 02/06/2025 00:06

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/06/2025 21:16

It's the GB News way.🤷‍♀️

Don't think. Don't fact check. Don't reflect. Just attack.

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Nah. We have labour and plaid friends that go up like a Roman candle if challenged too 🤣🤣

EasternStandard · 02/06/2025 07:58

justasking111 · 02/06/2025 00:06

Nah. We have labour and plaid friends that go up like a Roman candle if challenged too 🤣🤣

People do on here so you’re likely not wrong.

Dangermoo · 02/06/2025 09:01

EasternStandard · 02/06/2025 07:58

People do on here so you’re likely not wrong.

While attacking anybody who doesn't conform, as can be seen on this thread.

CoffeeCantata · 02/06/2025 09:16

Jennifershuffles · 30/05/2025 22:28

GB news is known for it's far right editorial stance so presumably she thought you would have had different political opinions to that.

I like to watch/read a range of views from across the spectrum. Then I make my own mind up. I read the Guardian, but I'm under no illusions that it's unbiased or hasn't got a very definite agenda too. I could cite several instances of The Guardian 'censoring' and manipulating stories to suit its position.

I'm aware that GB news (which I think I've watched maybe twice - when I've come across it - I don't seek it out) has a particular stance, and I take that into account. But I don't want my news from an echo chamber!

The constant flippant and mindless jibes of 'Are you a DM reader?' on here and elsewhere is so childish. And no - I'm not! But do Guardian readers not realise the irony here? It's not called the DM of the left for nothing.

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 09:22

Is anyone else genuinely concerned with how we’re conditioning ourselves to mock and abuse anyone who dares to question things?

We’re heading down such a dangerous path if no one is allowed to question anything or to not conform to government approved thinking.

Disagreement is fine, but we’re completely stripping them of the right to be treated with humanity and dignity.

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 09:27

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 09:22

Is anyone else genuinely concerned with how we’re conditioning ourselves to mock and abuse anyone who dares to question things?

We’re heading down such a dangerous path if no one is allowed to question anything or to not conform to government approved thinking.

Disagreement is fine, but we’re completely stripping them of the right to be treated with humanity and dignity.

Are we? Have you RTFT?

I wouldn’t dream of mocking or abusing anyone for questioning things. I respect people who think for themselves. If someone watched GB News as a source amongst other news outlets I’d have no issue with it. I strongly suspect that someone who doesn’t take any news from elsewhere isn’t doing much questioning. And I’d judge them without mockery or abuse.

Fjssssx · 02/06/2025 09:39

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 09:22

Is anyone else genuinely concerned with how we’re conditioning ourselves to mock and abuse anyone who dares to question things?

We’re heading down such a dangerous path if no one is allowed to question anything or to not conform to government approved thinking.

Disagreement is fine, but we’re completely stripping them of the right to be treated with humanity and dignity.

Like how we all blatantly accepted lockdown

EasternStandard · 02/06/2025 09:45

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 09:22

Is anyone else genuinely concerned with how we’re conditioning ourselves to mock and abuse anyone who dares to question things?

We’re heading down such a dangerous path if no one is allowed to question anything or to not conform to government approved thinking.

Disagreement is fine, but we’re completely stripping them of the right to be treated with humanity and dignity.

I suppose it works to a point as an attempt to curtail but that mockery and abuse won’t hold as a tactic.

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 09:45

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 09:27

Are we? Have you RTFT?

I wouldn’t dream of mocking or abusing anyone for questioning things. I respect people who think for themselves. If someone watched GB News as a source amongst other news outlets I’d have no issue with it. I strongly suspect that someone who doesn’t take any news from elsewhere isn’t doing much questioning. And I’d judge them without mockery or abuse.

@blossomtoes when I sent a link to disprove an assertion, you implied I was stupid and didn’t understand what I’d sent.
I then sent a second link where a law firm confirmed that my interpretation was correct. You ignored this and continued to assert I was stupid and couldn’t understand my first link.

You are part of the problem.

We are not a society who welcomes debate, nuance or disagreement.

You felt personally attacked by me sharing evidence that proved you wrong. Instead of just being open to the idea that you might indeed be wrong.

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 10:37

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 09:45

@blossomtoes when I sent a link to disprove an assertion, you implied I was stupid and didn’t understand what I’d sent.
I then sent a second link where a law firm confirmed that my interpretation was correct. You ignored this and continued to assert I was stupid and couldn’t understand my first link.

You are part of the problem.

We are not a society who welcomes debate, nuance or disagreement.

You felt personally attacked by me sharing evidence that proved you wrong. Instead of just being open to the idea that you might indeed be wrong.

At no point did I say you were stupid. I said neither of your links were evidence of the point you were making. It’s all there so anyone can check. I thought you were in favour of questioning?

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 10:51

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 10:37

At no point did I say you were stupid. I said neither of your links were evidence of the point you were making. It’s all there so anyone can check. I thought you were in favour of questioning?

I said you implied it.

“If you really think that you don’t understand the case.”
“Try reading as well as writing.”
“That doesn’t say what you want it to.”
“I said neither of your links were evidence of the point you were making”

Except the point I was making was that the EA can protect political beliefs in some circumstances and the law firms stated exactly that.

Colleague made sarky comment about me re. GB News
EasternStandard · 02/06/2025 11:05

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 10:51

I said you implied it.

“If you really think that you don’t understand the case.”
“Try reading as well as writing.”
“That doesn’t say what you want it to.”
“I said neither of your links were evidence of the point you were making”

Except the point I was making was that the EA can protect political beliefs in some circumstances and the law firms stated exactly that.

I’m not sure why the opposite was continued to be argued when it’s shown clearly, including with your screen shot.

TempestTost · 02/06/2025 11:17

Happyfeet12345 · 01/06/2025 11:36

We all automatically form (unconscious or conscious) judgements about people, it’s what our brain is wired to do (within 1/10 of a second actually; I’ve published research in this area). I am very aware of my biases and prejudices, and I am being honest in saying that yes I would make a snap judgement about you if you said you watch GB news. I’m not saying that this judgment couldn’t then be changed.
Anyway the OPs question was was their colleague right to make a sarcastic comment - no they weren’t, some thoughts are best kept internal!

So when I hear someone say they only read The Guardian, or reccomend it to people as a very reliable paper, my first thought is that they are in a bubble where they have no idea how biased and downright unreliable it is. Which I think is likely an accurate assessment.

My prejudice would be that they are right on people who want to feel good about themselves while maintaining their middle class comforts, and they are probably unknowingly to themselves paternalistic to minorities and even racist in some cases, and not deep thinkers.

But you know, I try to suspend my prejudices, and be aware that it would be actually allowing myself to get to know the person directly that would allow me to know and understand what they are really like, not making snap judgements based on my assumptions about their reading habits and trying to put them into little boxes. And I'd also try to keep in mind that many of us find we are in a bit of a rut until suddenly we have a new experience that makes us see how others see and experience things and that in no way precludes them being good people, just a bit naive perhaps.

If I did in fact get to know them, well, that would tell me more, and it would not be a surprise to find my instincts had been partly or even largely correct because after all, they are formed from experiences, but otherwise, as a rational adult with the capability to interrogate my own immediate impressions and judgements, that would be how I would leave my immediate impressions created by my mind about this person - with a sense of openness to who they are not defined by very small bits of information that might well play into my own limited experience.

And tbh I am really surprised that someone with this as an area of study would be so content as to just accept such prejudices without any real interrogation.

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 11:19

I said you implied it.

I didn’t. It’s not my fault that you inferred it.

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 11:36

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 11:19

I said you implied it.

I didn’t. It’s not my fault that you inferred it.

Ah I see. I’m too stupid to understand that your posts were not implying I’m stupid.

Got it

Happyfeet12345 · 02/06/2025 12:15

TempestTost · 02/06/2025 11:17

So when I hear someone say they only read The Guardian, or reccomend it to people as a very reliable paper, my first thought is that they are in a bubble where they have no idea how biased and downright unreliable it is. Which I think is likely an accurate assessment.

My prejudice would be that they are right on people who want to feel good about themselves while maintaining their middle class comforts, and they are probably unknowingly to themselves paternalistic to minorities and even racist in some cases, and not deep thinkers.

But you know, I try to suspend my prejudices, and be aware that it would be actually allowing myself to get to know the person directly that would allow me to know and understand what they are really like, not making snap judgements based on my assumptions about their reading habits and trying to put them into little boxes. And I'd also try to keep in mind that many of us find we are in a bit of a rut until suddenly we have a new experience that makes us see how others see and experience things and that in no way precludes them being good people, just a bit naive perhaps.

If I did in fact get to know them, well, that would tell me more, and it would not be a surprise to find my instincts had been partly or even largely correct because after all, they are formed from experiences, but otherwise, as a rational adult with the capability to interrogate my own immediate impressions and judgements, that would be how I would leave my immediate impressions created by my mind about this person - with a sense of openness to who they are not defined by very small bits of information that might well play into my own limited experience.

And tbh I am really surprised that someone with this as an area of study would be so content as to just accept such prejudices without any real interrogation.

Yes I agree, which is why I used phrases such as “whether it is true or not, I would automatically assume…” and “I’m not saying that this judgment couldn’t then be changed”.

Dangermoo · 02/06/2025 13:22

TENSsion · 02/06/2025 10:51

I said you implied it.

“If you really think that you don’t understand the case.”
“Try reading as well as writing.”
“That doesn’t say what you want it to.”
“I said neither of your links were evidence of the point you were making”

Except the point I was making was that the EA can protect political beliefs in some circumstances and the law firms stated exactly that.

Has the poster, who said she would sack the OP, on the spot read this? Running your own business, with no idea of employer responsibilities. I dread to think what their health and safety regime looks like, if they can't get the basics right.

OonaStubbs · 02/06/2025 17:51

We had GB News on at work today. It just seems to be a normal news channel.

justasking111 · 02/06/2025 18:20

OonaStubbs · 02/06/2025 17:51

We had GB News on at work today. It just seems to be a normal news channel.

Maybe the juicy stuff is on at night

Dangermoo · 02/06/2025 18:22

justasking111 · 02/06/2025 18:20

Maybe the juicy stuff is on at night

Where's the funny reaction emoji gone!

bombastix · 02/06/2025 18:39

justasking111 · 02/06/2025 18:20

Maybe the juicy stuff is on at night

Nige and Katie Price’s bra, XXX 100 per cent unpolitically correct hot rightie chat

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