To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

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I visited Amsterdam last year and was shocked to see an apparently middle class women coming down to breakfast in her pj's,dressing gown and slippers. Similarly going round Tescos where there are people, especially women in pj's and slippers. No doubt I'll be called an old right wing fascist or something.

Again, your standards are your standards. No one else has to live up to them but you. You can't expect random people who don't know you to live up to your standards.

Expecting people to be what you deem as acceptable is, in fact, snobbery, because what you're saying is that if they aren't, they aren't as good as you. You are believing that your standards are what matter most, not the comfort or wellbeing of other people.

Just as I thought, it's something that's middle class in origin and filtered down to the working class. According to Tamsin Blanchard, fashion writer, (could you get a more nepo sounding name) it's really cool. Except the people wearing them out and about dont look like the A list celebs she cites.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/30/is-it-ok-to-wear-pyjamas-in-public-darlington-head-teacher-primary-school

Ahh, no one posted for 4 hours and you missed your attention fix 😭

I miss the laugh reaction!

Did you read the article? Very illuminating about how the upper/middle classes devastate working class people's lives. Just like their casual drug taking and cannabis use in the 60s and 70s caused devastation in working class communities. As a result of this fashion writer and her colleagues, the working class think it's cool to wander around in their Jim jams and demean themselves even further.

Funny how you pop up though every time.

Did you read the article? It says that the headteacher who thinks it's terrible is completely out of touch because it's the height of fashion and life has changed.

So you know, well done for posting something which proves you are also out of touch.

Yes dear. Have a lie down and a cuppa tea 🥰

I feel sorry for you so I’m giving you the attention you crave 😘

The whole concept originated by middle class fashionistas as The Guardian reveals. The A list celebs turn up to events in expensive designer silk pj's. The working class demean themselves wearing Disney, snoopy or other grotesque outfits in public. It's almost like it's planned.

Your attention is unwanted. Perhaps you have a cat who need the attention more than I do. I wouldn't want your cat to miss out on his tea.

Don’t worry, I hate cats.

I'm sniffing an incel.

I'm more interested in where the giraffe and tiger print onesies in the Guardian article come from!

Only demeaning if you don't like Disney or Snoopy.

And usually only very snobby people who wish they were more well to do than they are don't like them.

Oh you would. No worries. I have a man at home, not a cat.

Do you not comprehend that this was a middle class fashion trend but it has now turned into a way for the working classes to take even less pride in themselves?

Hmm..you sound very similar to somebody on the cinema thread. I'm done with feeding you.

I don't think you understand that it still is a middle class trend and you're determined that only scummy people would do it.

I didn't say scummy. I said working class people.

Perhaps you regard the working class as scummy.

That's good. My ankles are sore from you nipping them.

You have called it childish, infantile, a gateway to taking dumps in the street, feckless behaviour, demeaning.

It's very clear what you think.

"They were careless people, Tom and Daisy - they smashed things up and...then retreated back into their money...and let other people clean up the mess they'd made." The Great Gatsby.
As I said upthread, I suspected this was a trend encouraged by irresponsible rich people as defined in that Guardian article. It has done nothing for the self esteem of working class people to look gross in public in their snoopy and Disney pj's.

It isn't that deep.

School run isn't a social occasion for the parents, it isn't a professional presentation. Especially in the morning, there typically isn't any need for interaction, the parent is just a tool enabling the child's attendance.