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DH throwing out my things

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fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:20

DH is a minimalist to the extreme, he has very little in terms of 'things'. Naturally I'm the opposite, a hoarder. Over the years I've conceded ground and downsized a LOT to pacify him, although it's probably fair to say that I still have too much stuff and it's also a bit messy and cluttered. Having kids has obviously brought more stuff to the house generally, but my own "stuff" is contained, with most of the house being tidy and (from my perspective at least) quite minimalist as he likes it. The "stuff" is in our bedroom (my side) to some extent, but mostly in my study which only I use.
In response to my compromises, instead of compromising too he seems to be going the other way. I'm increasingly finding my stuff in the bin, or things have just disappeared. I'm not talking about my most prized possessions, but they are things that I have bought, with my own money, for myself, that are on my side of the bedroom or in my study. I've always known not to leave things lying around in the kitchen or lounge or whatever for this reason, but it's like he's encroaching more and more on what I'd consider limited private spaces. To be fair, a lot of them are not big stuff. But even if it's just a receipt, it might be for some things I had meant to return or where I was going to claim something back as an expense. But to him, he's right and I'm wrong.
Even if it's actually something that is completely unimportant and doesn't matter to me, I still feel in principle that he shouldn't be throwing out my things from my study without checking or at the very least telling me. Am I being unreasonable?
When I pick him up on something specific, the response is always about the actual thing in question "what were you going to do with it anyway / it had a rip in it / you said yourself you have too many socks". Where for me, it's about the principle of it being up to me what to do with my own things. He says my clutter affects him as he lives here too, but he increasingly seems to be looking for it beyond surface level (while he is extremely private about his own things).
His 'need' to get rid of things also extends to perishable goods. So I might buy an expensive condiment (where he won't spend a penny more than he has to on anything), or I'll get a bottle of Baileys as a present from someone, he'll use them up as fast as he can, I'm talking days, not really 'enjoying' them as far as I can see, but just to get them out of the house. And inside I feel "hey they are my nice things", but am I just being selfish?
The other side is that I probably do have too much stuff and too much emotional attachment to 'things'. And gifts I receive like the Baileys could be in the cupboard for weeks/months otherwise. He says they're there to be used. Should I just give in?
At the moment I'm not giving in, at least not in my head, it's a huge source of frustration for me. But any effort to put a boundary in place on this, as with anything else really, is met with a bullheaded wall of stubborness ("I'm not agreeing to that"). I basically have to let it go time and again. But it's making me very anxious, what will be gone next?

OP posts:
Digdongdoo · 30/05/2025 18:17

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/05/2025 18:09

If you had to store absolutely fucking everything you didn't want throwing out randomly, in one small room, it might well look like that. I would certainly not be judging based on that, give the parameters OP has to work with!

Nah, there's no good reason for a room to look anything like that. If you have a whole room for upur extra stuff and it still doesn't have a proper place or a purpose, you have too much stuff. OP is messy and her DH is a twat. Two things can be true.

IsThistheMiddleofNowhere · 30/05/2025 18:18

Personally I cant stand clutter and am constantly chucking out my husband's stuff that I know he wont even miss otherwise the house would be a complete dump. I think your partner should tell you though when he throws stuff out. At least he is keeping on top of things. Sometimes its hard to let go of things as there is always the thought that you might need it at some point later but mostly you never do.

Sunholidays · 30/05/2025 18:20

I'm sorry OP but if your study is as messy as that pic, that's pretty horrible. Living with a hoarder is hell.

hcee19 · 30/05/2025 18:24

Seems to me you do all the compromising and he does none. He should not be throwing anything out without your permission. They are your things, not his...Sounds to me he is only going to get worse. He needs help with this....l am a clean freak, but l would never throw anything away that didn't belong to me, because it isn't for me to decide. A trip to the GP ( if he can get an appointment), is needed. I know it's easier said than done, but this issue with him will continue to grow...

godmum56 · 30/05/2025 18:34

LHR2JFK · 30/05/2025 18:06

Assume you live with 3 others is your share of the storage volume approximately 1/4. If it is twice someone else’s as and example then maybe. If it is twice everyone else’s, or other people have had to disappear stuff so that you can expand into the vacancy then that for me would be disproportionate.

Or more simplistically (just a thought experiment) imagine food was eaten in the same proportion for every meal: would you be obese?

No that doesn’t work. My late DH liked motorbikes. He krpt three in the garage and that and his stuff filled it. My garden shed wasmuch smaller but it held all my stuff. I find it telling when you analogise it to food though….another subject where people regard others with disdain

YoNoHeSido77 · 30/05/2025 18:37

I’m a hoarder.

My bedroom is so full of clothes that I basically have a path to my bed and that’s it. (The bed is clear and changed every week)

my house isn’t dirty and the bins are emptied every day, it’s just full of stuff.
Stuff that if someone got rid of I’d have to go and purchase 2 just to be safe.
im also a food hoarder, I have to have my cupboards/fridge/freezers full at all times. If I have less than 6 of every tin I panic.

once a month or so I will do a cull of clothing and get rid of 4 or 5 sacks. My husband has to take them to the charity shop IMMEDIATELY or I’d change my mind.

it’s a mental illness and it’s horrible, but removing my stuff without my permission is damaging to me.

You are not like this though, you are trying to protect what little he’s letting you have. My real hoarding started because of my childhood and extreme poverty. Once I could purchase my own stuff I did, over and over again.

You are in danger of it actually becoming an issue because of how he’s treating you. I worry for your children too, are they allowed to be children and make memories at all or does the house have to be spotless AT ALL TIMES?

i hope that you can take on what people are saying, you are being abused and you and your children deserve better.

Festivespirit85 · 30/05/2025 18:44

fa556 · 28/05/2025 23:44

Thanks for the support. But if I did that, the response would be colossal. Either something related but much more extreme like throwing out ALL of my somethings, or it would be something seeminly unrelated but very negative and destructive, maybe telling his family I'm not able to go with them on the extended family holiday this year or something like that. Any reaction from me to anything gets a tenfold reaction back, the only option really is to back down.

This is controlling. Please make plans to put this creature in the bin where it belongs.
Coming from someone who was trapped years ago with an abuser, life is so much happier without a fiend like that in your life.
My stepdad is a cunt for chucking things away despite them not being his to touch.

Vynalbob · 30/05/2025 18:45

I agree with others it seems all about control.

The only thing I can think of is buy a mini fridge for your office and have a lock on your office door (you keep the key). If you do this and it escalates or he says you've left the door unlocked and he's been in the. Tbh you know it won't improve, not one iota.
Good luck 👍

Festivespirit85 · 30/05/2025 18:56

pelargoniums · 30/05/2025 09:41

OP, I hope you know he doesn’t have to be physically abusive or threaten to be, to be abusive. He’s a controlling fuck and it’s very hard when someone is controlling and gaslighting you the way he is to see that it’s OK to leave. Many of us have been there and have had the “if only he’d hit me, then I’d have a reason to go” way of thinking.

What helped me:

  1. Writing down, free writing, what life without him would look. He kept telling me the way we lived was normal, I was abnormal for rebelling against it, if I’d just COMPLY. I kept putting myself into smaller and smaller boundaries the way you are and it didn’t help, he’d just push me further – the way he’s now encroaching on your study. Writing “a day in the life” down was revelatory – even stupid things like I could cook what I wanted, with the lights on and the window open, move around the kitchen at the speed I wanted. Go to yoga and dawdle home instead of walking at a clip, filled with dread I’d be “late”. Sounds silly but it was mindblowing going “OK, but my abnormal sounds kinda nice, maybe he’s the problem, perhaps I’ll get a cat and eat pizza in a restaurant even though he doesn’t like pizza, is this what freedom tastes like?!” (Freedom tastes like pizza.)
  2. Therapy. Both talking and a crap group CBT session at the library that again, helped me see: I’m not anxious, I simply have a terrifyingly controlling partner.
  3. A wonderful, wonderful friend who said: “OK, even if he’s right, you can go! Maybe you ARE abnormal and want to live in a weird way, maybe you ARE the awful person he tells you that you are – go ahead and do the awful thing of leaving him, be selfish and live alone abnormally doing your weird shit. Prove him right.” It was great because it undermined everything he’d told me; his big power was that I was bad and wrong and she gave me permission to be bad and wrong – and within days of escaping it was like, wait, I’m not awful and I’m FREE.

Maybe you can’t afford the house with a study and enough bedrooms for the kids on one wage – but maybe you don’t need the study if you’re able to spread your stuff through the house a bit more. Maybe you’ll discover that your level of mess is perfectly fine, that the kids get to play a bit more because they don’t have to clear up every second or have their toys/art/clothes binned, maybe you’ll have more free time because you’re not constantly having to hide your stuff/tidy beside your bed/police your bottle of Baileys so you get to drink some.

That's what I said when I got free of the controlling creature, that I was free...free to buy a Starbucks coffee with MY own money if I wanted. I likened it to being a prisoner finally free from prison.

Nikki75 · 30/05/2025 18:58

Ask yourself what a healthy relationship is to you.
He doesnt respect you or your boundaries he seems to have made you afraid of him by doing the above not allowing you to be yourself or speak up for yourself .
I feel for you there is a far nicer happier life out there but if you choose to keep allowing him to grind you down your giving him all the power ...
You are you the study is yours the pieces of paper tables books whatever they belong to you that's who you are and he has slowly chipped away at you,
Leave him. X

Festivespirit85 · 30/05/2025 18:59

Just a thought too. Does he drink your Bailey's quickly, not because he wants it out the way, but because he's perhaps jealous that it's been bought for YOU?

Nikki75 · 30/05/2025 19:18

I feel on here were people have said they have sympathy for the husband as he isnt messy or hoarding things he is the opposite I can see why a relationship would have its flashpoints.

What isnt acceptable is how he threatens and punishes the poster if she dares to stand up for herself for example going to family saying she isnt allowed to go on a holiday .
She has been conditioned to not have a reaction or an opinion it reminds me of my sons father my ex partner of many years would take the car off me i and my little boys if I stood up to him would stop the car insurance he would dictate the holidays what we ate ... I am free as a bird now and so our my sons both now amazing kind men.
I left with my sons got my own home my own car my own everything and I promise you the emotional freedom you gain is the best feeling ever you never look back x

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/05/2025 19:22

Digdongdoo · 30/05/2025 18:17

Nah, there's no good reason for a room to look anything like that. If you have a whole room for upur extra stuff and it still doesn't have a proper place or a purpose, you have too much stuff. OP is messy and her DH is a twat. Two things can be true.

If you start out with a whole house of your own, and that gets reduced down to one room, yeah, you've got not got enough space for your stuff.

Whether the issue is 'too much stuff' or 'not enough space' is for the individual to determine. I have a lot of stuff. It is all used and most of it used for my work, which is pretty varied. Throwing stuff away that I am not using today or tomorrow but realistically may use next week or next month would be very costly and fucking stupid!

In an ideal world we'd all have oodles of room for the stuff we want and need, but thats not where some of us live. Some of us will, even without an abusive partner, which the OP absolutely has, be living a 5bed semi amount of stuff in a 3bed terrace!

2025ismybestyear · 30/05/2025 19:43

Do you realise you're in an abusive and controlling relationship, @fa556 ?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 30/05/2025 19:46

Enrichetta · 30/05/2025 09:47

So it seems the house is yours? How long have you been married?

The longer you stay, the more likely it is that the house will become part of joint marital property.

in your shoes I would take legal advice sooner rather than later. Even if, at this point, you cannot face the thought of ending the marriage.

yes. I was going to ask about the house too. He moved into YOUR house and behaves like this?
He sounds AWFUL OP..
What I would hate is the constant stress of worrying what would be raided next. What possession that you value would be in the bin without asking.. It must be a constant adreline run and have you on tenterhooks...

Also having a few shoes and clothes that you've just been wearing on your side of the bedroom is not a Capital crime! But having to worry about everything all day long and trying to pre empt an outburst or nasty criticisms and then still finding that there's something he can pick on even after you've tried to bombproof everything.

There's an undercurrent of obsession in his behaviour.. almost like religious groups in previous centuries who renounced material things - I'm all in favour of minimalism.. (wish I was a bit more minimalist but that will never happen) but to force in on everyone around you...sounds awful and as a pp said.. its not going to get any better... He's also made you his whipping post in his quest for purity... and is such a bully. Its so controlling. He's definitely in need of therapy.
Sorry you are going through this OP.

Digdongdoo · 30/05/2025 20:58

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/05/2025 19:22

If you start out with a whole house of your own, and that gets reduced down to one room, yeah, you've got not got enough space for your stuff.

Whether the issue is 'too much stuff' or 'not enough space' is for the individual to determine. I have a lot of stuff. It is all used and most of it used for my work, which is pretty varied. Throwing stuff away that I am not using today or tomorrow but realistically may use next week or next month would be very costly and fucking stupid!

In an ideal world we'd all have oodles of room for the stuff we want and need, but thats not where some of us live. Some of us will, even without an abusive partner, which the OP absolutely has, be living a 5bed semi amount of stuff in a 3bed terrace!

Having stuff is fine. Having so much stuff a room is barely usable is not. Buy some cabinets and organise it if you need to keep it.
The DH is obviously a prick, but I couldn't live with that mess either.

Lovemeapickledgherkin · 30/05/2025 21:05

This struck a chord with me as it is one of the reasons I recently decided to end my own marriage. I felt undermined and eventually uncomfortable in my own home. There are other reasons why I’m divorcing, but the binning of my stuff certainly helped chip away and added resentment. Your case sounds more extreme and manipulative. Think very carefully about your future happiness and contentment with this man.

LHR2JFK · 30/05/2025 21:06

godmum56 · 30/05/2025 18:34

No that doesn’t work. My late DH liked motorbikes. He krpt three in the garage and that and his stuff filled it. My garden shed wasmuch smaller but it held all my stuff. I find it telling when you analogise it to food though….another subject where people regard others with disdain

except it does work. And you are in the fortunate position of not understanding what I think is the dynamic here.

So let’s ask OP which of these two is closer to the truth, because there are two completely different scenarios that could be going on.

Scenario A OP is a dirty bitch, and she is lucky to have someone around who will ‘clean up after her’. She doesn’t realise that she is lucky anyone will live with her, and she is obviously not that great at adulting and her long suffering husband should be given access to her hoard in the office to throw out her “crap” and then she should jolly well pull her socks up and just put the stuff away.

Scenario B She is a boiled frog.
As the relationship developed and things needed to be replaced or upgraded he would either buy them without consulting her, or have stronger views on things. This would subtly mutate into her not having good taste/ buying shite/ her purchases not really matching.
Simultaneously, his not being a slob mutates into her being “the dirty one” in the relationship. He will make disparaging remarks about her to undermine and destabilize her. She will over time alter her preferences to the point that she knows to buy things he likes and ends up not knowing anymore whether she herself likes something, only that he will hate it. Things in the house needing to be cleaned are proof of her dirtiness.
Her things mysteriously get broken, they get thrown out, they don’t make the cut in house moves. Over time there are fewer and fewer things that are hers. Items from her family are particularly prone to being “old tat”. Eventually the house is like a hotel room, certainly clean, perhaps comfortable, but the items selected by you are temporary and only there under sufferance.
My guess is that he hates the OP, and this is how he is letting her know.

JemimaPiddlepot · 30/05/2025 21:08

Sunholidays · 30/05/2025 18:20

I'm sorry OP but if your study is as messy as that pic, that's pretty horrible. Living with a hoarder is hell.

But he never has to go in her study. Ever. So even if he thinks it’s “horrible”, there’s an incredibly easy way to deal with it. Not going into a room is very simple. I’m not in loads of rooms right now - in fact, every room apart from the one I’m in.

So why is he gunning for it? Why is OP worried he’s set the study in his sights? Could it be because it’s the only space he’s not currently controlling?

Ilovechocolatelimesandsherbertlemons · 30/05/2025 21:09

My DH is an OCD minimalist but he keeps it to his own work shop, study and his side of the bed.
I spread my stuff around the rest of the house, and he wouldn't dream of touching my things, let alone reorganising them or throwing them out. He knew I was busy and untidy when he married me
Occasionally he'll make a remark about a pile of paper that's been there for 6 months, but that's about it.
I couldn't bear it, we would probably have separated years ago. As it is we've been married for 43 years.

LHR2JFK · 30/05/2025 21:12

JemimaPiddlepot · 30/05/2025 21:08

But he never has to go in her study. Ever. So even if he thinks it’s “horrible”, there’s an incredibly easy way to deal with it. Not going into a room is very simple. I’m not in loads of rooms right now - in fact, every room apart from the one I’m in.

So why is he gunning for it? Why is OP worried he’s set the study in his sights? Could it be because it’s the only space he’s not currently controlling?

Perhaps think of her “hoard” as her last ditch attempt to have some possessions that are hers. Ask whether it might be a reaction to him laying waste to everything else? He would prefer that nothing of her existed other than on his say so.

I think your assumption of goodwill on his behalf is very misplaced.

Ilovechocolatelimesandsherbertlemons · 30/05/2025 21:12

Although if your study looks like the picture, I couldn't bear it myself! There's untidy then there's hoarding!

SuperBlondie28 · 30/05/2025 21:17

I do live with a hoarder. I wouldn't say I'm a minimalist but believe in only keeping things that are useful to me, you know things that I consider to be 'mine'. Saying that, DH's hoarding drives me crazy. If he wants something, he can never find it. But I'd never throw his stuff out.

He evening kept my blunt bikini trimmer and lead. The battery was failing and it's rechargeable so I threw it in the bedroom bin. He was looking through his tools for something years later. It was in the box. God only knows why!

crumblingschools · 30/05/2025 21:20

OP’s study has a lot of stuff in it as it is the only place she is allowed to put things

PyongyangKipperbang · 30/05/2025 21:20

Ilovechocolatelimesandsherbertlemons · 30/05/2025 21:12

Although if your study looks like the picture, I couldn't bear it myself! There's untidy then there's hoarding!

But an untidy study, that you have no place to be in, or any reason to be in, is nothing to do with you. So why would it bother you?

Just dont go into a room that isnt yours.

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